India’s third largest two-wheeler making company TVS Motors launched its new advanced bike last year: the new Apache RTR Fi, to hold its foot stronger in this bike segment; well, maybe so for the bike company. But Apache fans dub that the new bike adds to the wagon of Apache stunners on the road and after so many months it turns out to be so true.
The bike features fuel injection technology that adds to greater fuel efficiency. The bike is designed to look more solid and masculine with shrouds on both sides of the tank. Indeed Apache RTR Fi looks larger than its forerunner but surprisingly TVS Motors designers didn’t alter the weight of the machine. The bike sports stylish stickers on the panels as well as on the shrouds to truly give it a racing machine looks. The disc brake at the rear gives a lot more control and comfort to the rider. The new Apache RTR Fi has new scoops to draw air which assist the engine to cool faster. Additionally, just like we see in race bikes it has a data logging facility, which gives a 0-60 second lap time and also the maximum speed indicators.
What’s New As Regards To Looks Of The New Apache RTR Fi?
Apache RTR Fi bike has split grab rails that are a mix of design and performance. The aerodynamic air scoopers help the engine to cool off quickly and the alloy black wheels are not just lightweight but will appeal all and can ride through the rough surfaces. The fuel tank is not only huge but also sharp lined so to make it look very much aerodynamic and rightly proportioned muscle, just enough for adding the beastly looks.
The new Apache RTR Fi features a microprocessor which has an Electronic Control Unit made of sensors, fuel pump and an injector, which are designed to give optimum fuel metering and ignition timing.. It has got forged brake lever that makes the bike stylish. The clip on the handle bar for different positions is an added feature.
Engine and Performance: It’s the new power mill of the new Apache RTR Fi that makes it more worthwhile. It runs on a 159.7cc fuel injected engine that reaches a maximum power of 15.7 bhp at 8500 rpm and a peak torque of 13.1Nm at 6000 rpm. The top speed achievable is 120 kmph and can cross 60 kmph in just 4.8 seconds and 100 kmph in17.7 seconds. The new power mills gives Apache RTR Fi bike a fuel economy of 50-55 kmpl. The power release is gentle that motivates smoother acceleration and shifting of gears consumes less power and fuel. The fuel injection technology enables the bike to give enormous speed level.
Final Words: The Apache RTR Fi is indeed a latecomer, Hero Honda Glamour Fi and Pulsar 220cc Fi have already featured the fuel injection technology. So the competition already existed for TVS! The bike does not look any new; it is short just like its previous models. The bike seems to have spent a lot of time in the garage and the witness is the faded paint of the bike.
The LCD speedometer is new but the colour contrast makes it real hard for anyone to figure the numbers! The bike starts jarring once it touches the 60 kmph mark and the pick up is just fine but not too appealing. It almost feels that except for the new stickers all over the bike, there is nothing more unique in the bike. The LED lamps at the rear continue to be the same and the silencer is re-designed. The tachometer remains in the analogue form. But for engine upgrading there is nothing really great one can expect from the new Apache RTR Fi bike; in fact, the mileage seems to have dropped with the new fuel injected engine.
The bike is available in orange, metallic grey and sporty yellow colours. And it is priced on a higher end at Rs 78.000. The TVS Apache RTR Fi would definitely have an edge had it come a little earlier. Although it features many qualities of a race bike it does not stand out among other bikes that possess more or less same characteristics. I doubt if it truly stands to its tagline of race unleashed.
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Apache RTR Fi bike a fuel economy of 50-55 kmpl total fake
it gives a mileage of only 45km per liter
I had test drive yesterday, the bike all of a sudden stopped in the middle of road at 35kmph speed. There is marginal reduction in vibration, but vibration was even felt at 4000rpm. I was requested to come back for test drive in the evening. I will try again may be in the weekend. Service centers are manipulating test drive bikes to drive smooth, I request people to be careful as the new bike you purchase may be different alltogether.
Apache RTR Fi looks a bit too much on the price tag….
why TVS when u have HH CBZ Xtreme….
Love HH truly… & Apache main disadvantage is for tall men, over 5’10…
at 6’0 i felt totally awful in Apache RTR (old)…
Bring taller bikes TVS…
Indians are not as stout as you think….
The Apache is a fantastic bike, surely. But it kind of small for tall riders and kind of a Pulsarish look at the front. TVS could have designed it better.
I think HH Hunk/HH CBZ have fantastic acceleration for city drive. They even have very good top end and are capable of highway cruise at 80 kmph and can be used for touring as well.
Apache is good for straight line street fighting, apache scores badly in terms of cruising and they don’t fit for long tours.
Bike is not just 0-60kmph and top whack, if this is the case HH Hunk and HH Xtreme is no let down, they do 0-60 in 5.1sec and have top whack of 110kmph
It’s known fact that Hero Honda bikes last longer, they are fuel efficient, good re-sale value and are proven reliable. Even Unicorn is a TOP and MOST recommended buy.
Fast didn’t get faster, according to TVS website power ratings remain unchanged for Fi version. Some magazines have reported 109/111/114 kmph as the top whack which is close to Unicorn.
Now TVS is adding tagline as ‘fast got faster’, there is no logic, if there’s any meaning in the tagline, then it should be about misleading pubic especially young, who are enthused even by 3kmph hike in top whack. TVS should stop this tricks and give good bikes and leave other things to customer.
Hi All,
i am a sick owner of this bike called Apache RTR 160 FI for the past 2 months.Sandeep singh was right when he mentioned that riding this bike is like riding a pregnant CAMEL which is suffering from labour pain. very well said and i completely agree with you coz i have been feeling the same. The engine becomes very heavy after 5-6 kms and you will feel like you are forcing the engine to run. i am like banging my head on the wall evryday thinking why i bought this bike. it certainly has some serious engine design issue with FI which the service engineers have no clue why it is happening. i am staying in chennai.i have visited all the TVS service centers. Nobody seems to figure out why it is happening. And i am seriously planning to sue the TVS company asking for a refund of my money.
so guys….if u r planning to buy this bullshit bike, think thousand times..
or else u ll suffer everyday like the way i am suffering…and bang ur head in disgust….
any one who blamrs the apache rtr fi doesnt know how to ride the bike i thik so i have been using htis bike for past six months i love this bike i have reached 110kmph a little vibrations is there no bike can run without vibration so stop blaming ride other bikes and tell hero honda really suuuuuuuu…..
Right Abbas…. The RTR will surely be loved provided u know how to take good care of it and how to ride it…. It revs like hell…. No other bike can give you so much power in this segment. So guys, your priorities in biking may be different. Dont blame the entire bike…. RTR is for high speed actyion on the highways for which it will never let you down….
I did 127kmph this bike race like a jet don’t compare RTR 160 FI with other it can complete compared only with zma and P220
just shut u r bull shit mouth…….
ricky u ryt………i did 124kmph n it s average is 42-45 kmpl
Hey guys…. I am planning to purchase RTR FI , now after reading your reviews I am totally confused.. Please suggest the best……
Thanks
guys i was goin too book the bike today but after the reviews i am so totally confused……ppl are sayin the bike has prob with “FI” technlogy
@Anuj & Naman:
better go for any other bike but not Apache… and well if either of are 5’10″ , best that u dont choose Apache at all…
& btw, who needs a 127 kmph speed on a RTR, when the engine will be crying hoarse and sounding worse… better get a super bike to get the thrills of high speed…
a 200 or 220 will do if u are a bajaj fan… otherwise the BEST is HH KARIZMA!!!!
Truly the champ!!!
dude the prob is 200 mielage is so low(30) and 220 is out of range!!!!
all are fakers plz dnt confuse while reading above fake comment bcoz the truth is that apache rtr fi 160 is the best among all in looking and in runnig really if u are going to buy new bike then i suggest apache rtr fi 160 really it is amazing bike
@rony
bro do u own a fi……how long…..did u find any prob in it…..
HOW MANY COLOR OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE IN APACHE RTR 160 FI ??? AND IS THIS BIKE WORTH PURCHASING ???
Hi Guys,
Tvs Apache RTR FI is an excellent machine, If mileage & ride qlty is yr main concern then stay away. I’ve hrd ppl cmplng dat its nt cmfrtble, its b’coz like ZMA, Cbz-Xtrm & R15 RTR FI’s suspnsn is tweaked 2 be stiff 2 for sporty handling. Also sme says that the engine is not refined as honda, its true but da refinement is nt bad either & is vastly improved ovr earlier versions. Sme says dat it wobbles while cornering, dats true b’coz its stock Tvs Tyres sucks so RTR FI buyers must switch to MRF conventional or tubeless prints the moment they take the delivery inorder to improve its handling. So friends, if any of u r planing 2 buy it den jst don’t worry. Go ahead!
HI GUYS,
I am totally agree with shekhar Sinha coz tyres are always on main priority after engine and RTRFi already roubusted every bike of its class and even upper one on the node of engine capability and Believe me if u change ur tyres to MRF or any tubeless wide tyre then you will find this bike as butter on road. And if u think that RTR’s engine have noise then my friend its ROAR of a lion in a bike’s jungle which will always give pleasures to ur ears.
hi guys , i have purchased a apache rtr 160fi
it feels to be great to own this bike.
but TVS service stinks.i have heard of people saying but now i realize. they dont support properly ,once the bike is sold the showrooms work is over and its all upto us to slam our head againt the wall…
abt the bike:
amazing the bike is smootttthhhhh even @ 117 kmph, actually during 57-68 kmph the engine struggles, i dont know y. but after that the engine keeps quiet.. i dont feel hurrrr (vibrations)..
problems :
my bike is leaking.. well above the engine , little higher that the spark plug, to be exact over the first heatsink plate close to the inlet, i suspect its engine oil, its leaking only on the right side and not on the left side. guys said the sealent could have melted leaking the engine oil outside.
dont know what to do.. any suggestions
It s not fake….. It depends on ur riding…… If u want mileage means u should maintain speed @40-50…
Guys … i am too planning to buy bike soon. But after read these comments mind starts vibrating i am also not able to reach on conclusion. These are the mixed reactions. But i need clear separation bcoz i take test drive of fi as well as pulsar 150. Pls reply soon to me. I am in Indore and price, mileage also i want to know. Indore roads are also not gud and irregular driver can come at any time so controlling is also a big matter. Pls notice these point and give me a suitable choice. Price in Indore are 70725(FI),65605(150CC Pulsar) is it correcr?
Thanks,
Pradeep
Hi Pradeep,
I was in the same situation just last week.You atleast have 2 options ,I had 3 more-Apache RTR/Fi-Pulsar150/180-CBZ Xtreme-Unicorn-Suzuki GS150R.
The latest pulsar 150 looks like earlier P-200.Upgrades are just in the looks dept.I liked it .I liked the GS-150 too.But finally I had a test ride in the RTR Fi and that changed everything. This bike doesn’t feel like any other 150cc bike.The throttle response is just ferocious from the word go.
And it picks up pace very rapidly.And the EXHAUST- BEAT.In my opinion this is the BEST sounding bike(un-modified) less than 200cc(4-stroke) ever in India.In 2 stroke it’s the legend RX-100 & Shogun.Brakes are very good and progressive.
Pulsar is also good but it bites too hard too soon,so first time disc brake users need to be cautious.
RTR’s City manouverability is very good as well as high speed stability.
The suzuki GS-150 also has good stability at seed as it’s 150Kg.
Regarding controlling the bike it’s you who has to decide which one feels best in your hands.Thats the reason we have test drives.You can’t go wrong with any of the bike mentioned.It’s the Run-in and periodic maintanence that makes a bike a real performer and provide with years of hassle free riding experience. So go ahead pick the best one you like.And feel like what ever you bought is the best.So All the Best.
God Bless and Peace for all.
Sam
PS:If you want to play safe you can get the Carb RTR too but once you ride the Fi you’ll know.
Don’t the test drives make it clear?
Apache RTR is the only way to go dude!!
I bought an Apache in November 08 and I am extremely happy with my purchase. The “feel” of an Apache is miles apart from that of a Pulsar!
By feel, I mean control, responsiveness, stability, posture and the sound of bike. The low ‘hummm’ that you get when you drive the bike, and the sudden push that it gives you in first gear, are things you will get addicted to.
I have not faced any problems with my bike yet (once the screw of the exhaust overplate got loose, got that fixed from service centre, but these are small maintenance things, that happen with every vehicle). The service centre in Bangalore is quite good too.
The reported mileage is 42, but I get 40 whenever I measure. Do this-> calculate how much you would save with a mileage difference of 5, over a period of 5 years. The amount would be less than 10k, that’s <2k for a year. I am ready to pay that much for an Apache. These are things that wont matter to you as much as feel itself after some time.
Apache refresh is the BEAST but but but .. if u wanna really drive the bike during rains then i would really ask you guys to replace the stalk TVS tyres to PSD (Pirelli Storm Demon) or MRF Zapper FS. Rest assured the bike never lets you down.
Hi Pinaki,
Yes the RTR is truly an amazing bike.
The Pirelli tyre you’re talking about is the
PSD – Pirelli Sport Demon /Model – 110/80 – 18 M/C 58H T
The next upsize 120/80 will reduce the mileage due to larger tyre contact patch resulting in more drag.
Expensive but worth if you are into serious biking.
MRF Zapper is the next best thing and widely available.
Cheers
Sam
dear frns, i hv to invest my money in this bike , but i m comfused after reading your suggetions towards this bike.
so pls inform me dat i hv owened this bike or not.
Dear Abhishek,
I suggest wait for some time. Bike which is controlled by ECU is hard to understand. Once you come over it everything is easy and fine. Because when your motorcycle gives problem, understanding fault code is very important. Well all the ECU controlled vehicles are basically smart engines and smart vehicles. But yet we have to become smart enough to understand the system.
Carbureted versions are bit simple because our mechanic friends are habbituated with that and so we. But they are still away from ECU systems specially in two wheeler segment.
There are sensors which are heart of the bike. Crank postion sensor, Lambda Sensor, TPS etc. etc…….which can be detected only by FIDT(Fuel Injection Diagnostic Tool or OBD). So this small handheld scanner is in english and some of our mechanics are not educated to understand so it becomes hard to repair these bikes.
Well talking about AVG or mileage, before buying these kind of bikes talk to company people about it. sometimes the parameters in the ECU can goes on TOSS due to some malfunction. So talk to thoes ppl who can reset the ECU if any thing happens to it. Because tinkering ECU is like TINKERING with BRAIN by some adam….Yet many technical tools are not available in Indian market. Some of our service points or dealers are still working in STONE AGE. Due to lack of high profile tools.
When the ECU gives wrong numbers that means either sensors are malfunctioning or ECU is not well. But if there is any small problem which can be repaired by resetting the ECU, but not deteced by mechanic then he will suggest you to buy new ECU which is hard. So discuss with Company people b4 buying any ECU vehicle n try to get the cost sensors and ECU.
Besides, soon you will be able to read my small article about Low Profile tyre and High Profile Tyre.
Ride Safe and Take Care…Thanks for reading me.
hai everybody…i am too planning to buy a bike guys…please guide me…whether apache rtr fi is best or apache rtr or yamaha fz-s is better…i am going join college next month.(first year)…plz reply soon guys…with their price comparison…plz plz plz hurry guys
whats raceing DNA unleased
Hai rajee go for RTR 160 FI or 180 both the bike have same pick up than normal rtr 160, i have 160 FI i have done 134 KMPH in highway, it race like a wind, vibration are born character of apache so don’t care about it..
Am 5’5 tall
is apache rtr fi the best 4 me. i wanted to take cbz or unicorn but height mattersss..
plz help
iam 6″ tall 74kgs in weight apache perfectly suit me so go for it
Naveen,
Practically speaking, RTR is too small a bike for your stature.
i’m 5’10″ and the RTR gives me the feeling i am always engaged with the handlebar. Maybe the sporty handle bar is the element.
IMO Karizma or BAJAJ P180 (UG4) will be a good choice for you.
No bike is more comfy than CBZ classic and ZMA both being a long wheelbased vehicles.
Just my opinion.
Sandeep
hi frnds,
I am planning to buy a bike.After reading these comments i am getting confused.I need 150cc bike my choices are CBZ-Xtream/HUNK/Unicorn, from these which is the better one to me,i m 170cm height.
go with apache
i own it
simply awesome bike
Hi ravi i recommend you to buy suzuki gs 150r because this bike offers you the best comfort,manly feel,superb stability at higher speeds,refined engine ,great mileage,completely innovative than other 150cc bikes and makes you look like celebrity on roads as many ride pulsors,apaches,cbz,hunk
Hi I am looking to buy a Apache RTR 160Fi. My friend had Apache 150. He saying Apache is typical Indian made will looks good now but after two years you feel very hard to drive it. There is lot uncomfortable things. Please let me know how long apache will worth. What are the problems facing at new and due to aging.. Is GS150R is good alternate. Please give you suggestions.
well friend i want to tell you that dont advise other we you can never take care of your own bike.
because as my expirens .
i have two apache one RTR 160fi and RTR 180
as well i am riding my rtr 160fi from 5 month ago
i can say that its is giving around 55 to 65 average
and i have put myself speed to 102km/h.
and recently i have buy rtr 180 and its is giving average of 40 45 on road and 50,52 on highway and its top speed is 121km/h.
hi,
this bike i like i want to buy this how much price and how to drive tell me some suggestion’s ok bye naresh kumard
hi guyz….
apache is a gr8 bike….
dose who are unsatisfied wid apache dey should have to experience the apache riding once again….
recently i owe apache 160 rtr fi…
its an amazing bike….
the apache itself is an amazing name…
i liked apache more than GS150R…
i dont know y bt i like it coz i have driven it….
experireince it b4 purchasing it….
dats y u have guyz TEST DRIVES>>>
c’mon guyz…
hi friends,
plz dont buy fi version of apache, it never give a constant mileage ( the range 20-35kmpl, damn !!!) also it starts vibrating when speedo reaches 60km….
many people tel me about uniconrn smooth engine and they told me to buy unicorn. but i wanted to know about apache rts’s engine quality and smoothness if we compare unicorn and apache rtr which bike should i buy?
pls tell me as soon as possible because within 2 days i will buy bike.
Guys please donts buy ApacheRTRFi.It is nothing to do with power ,Mileage,smoothness throttle you name it and it always going to fail.well i bought it last two years back,suffered very heavily.i had sold it for around 45k.
First and foremost for this high end technology bike we should have good roads and good fuel to pour into.but we dont have both here so just forget about it and buy some refined engine 150cc bikes.@srikant bro you go for unicorn best bike zero maintenaince and above all great mileage.you can also see yamaha bikes.
regards’
bikram
Useful feedback for amateur buyers. Nice work. Keep it up gentlemen.
hi guys,
RTR160fi isnt a bad bike at all,
the issue is with the vendor service support,
guys in the service centre dont properly support ECU calibration / tuning
and funny part is many dont have the ECU programmer,
and opened the ECU myself and took a look on whats inside,
and thats a good electonic wok i should say, the have used a freescale microcontroller and a motorola pressure sensor to monitor MAP …
i took a risky work i should say, but unluckly i have to.. as these TVS support for FI really stinks , they are unware about the technology and allways keep away from it…
my bike is 1.6yr old and it is giving a mileage of 50 steady , under these following conditions
> type pressure as stated by the vendor,
> tank 6ltrs
> no pillion driver
> top speed of even 90kmph and avrg of 65kmph
> and > than 10km of continous travel atleast…
RTR FI rocks ,
Hi guys, I heard that Apache RTR 160 FI’s engine gets stalled in the middle while riding. I was very much convinced of buying this vehicle, but after getting to know about the “engine stalling”
issue Im pushing off the purchase for while. Can any one clarify this issue….
plzz dont buy this bike ….i am writing down this bcoz …iam facing a trouble that is not big but service providers of Apache r shit they are not a service engge the know nothig about apaache bike and boss spare parts of bike are very hard to find and if u order from company they took around 2 months to deliver to service center …iam literately crying after buying this bike