TVS Apache RTR 180 vs Bajaj Pulsar 180 – Part 2

by Deepak on July 1, 2009

Note: This article is the second part of: TVS Apache RTR 180 vs Bajaj Pulsar 180 2009 – Clash Of The Titans

Performance: Now comes the most exciting part of the comparo, because of the fact that both the bikes are targeted towards performance, primarily. First we talk about the Pulsar. Pulsar 180 was the bike which redefined ‘performance’ in 2001. Come 2009, the story hasn’t changed very much but sure has seen more competition. Pulsar 180 is very fast BUT put a Pulsar 180 on a weighing machine and you will come to know the reason of the bike losing out a bit to the competition. The bike now weighs a hefty 147 Kgs up from 142 kgs and these 5 Kilograms sure take its toll on the overall performance of the bike. Add to this, the fatter 120 section rear tyres which further aggravate the condition. Moreover, if we get a chance, we would love to ask Rahul Bajaj the reason of the bike shedding 1 Nm of that all important torque which further hampers the bikes performance. On the contrary, let me also tell you, despite all these factors acting against this bike’s performance, the bike manages to return one of the fastest performance times both from 0 – 60 and 0 – 100. The 0 to 60 dash comes in sub 4.5 seconds along with the 14 seconds it takes to touch 100 from standstill, which goes along with the 123 Kmph true top speed. After these figures, we were quite jubilant and surprised at the same time because we did not expect this Bajaj to do this much, this fast! Accolades to Bajaj engineering team!

Coming to the TVS stable: Being a full 10 kilogram lesser than the Pulsar (at 137 kgs), greater torque and relatively slimmer tyres, we tried to demystify the obvious and we got what was evident. The bike is a sheer performer and we must admit that TVS has beaten the Pulsar 180 in performance (although just), finally! The bike is an out and out scorcher. Does a zero to sixty sprint in less than 4.5 seconds with the zero to hundred dash coming in less than 14 seconds. Along with it, the bike goes all the way to a true 124 Kmph and revs all the way to 12000 rpm (with the absence of rev-limiter). Fast and furious might be the right word to describe this pint sized powerhouse as it just blasts away to glory when in full swing, full throttle.

Mileage & Braking: Not much to compare on the mileage front considering the segment of crowd these bikes are catering to, but then this is India and how can we underestimate this all-important factor. Both the bikes are extremely efficient engines fulfilling our insatiating appetite for power and very respectable mileage figures, at the same time. Apache RTR 180 would return a city mileage of something in the range of 39-44 kmpl with the highway mileage hovering all the way to 43-48 kmpl. Pulsar is more hesitant in drinking fuel. It returns a mileage of 41-46 kmpl on city driving with the highway figures close to 46-51 kmpl.

Apache comes loaded with discs both at the front and rear: 270 mm petal discs doing the duty at the front and 200 mm petals doing it at the rear. All this means lovely braking and the bike sure stops when and as ordered to. Had the tyres been Zappers, we probably would have seen an even better and precise braking.

260 mm discs do their job pretty well on the Pulsars front along with 130mm drum trying simultaneously to stop that 147 kilogram fiery beast. Not in the league of Apache, but they are good and work well under heavy braking aided by the MRF tyre set as well.

Instrumentation & Other Stuff: Both the bikes come loaded with the typical stuff they are known for – Digital fuel gauge, Digital Speedo meter which goes with an analogue tachometer and trip meters with the Pulsar coming in an all DC set-up to ensure you get regular and constant beam of light (or horn) at all rpms. It also sports a split seat and a clip-on which has been borrowed directly from the bigger Pulsar 220. The tank can guzzle down 15 liters of petrol at one time with the bike warning you when you have 3 liters of it left as reserve. The chain is also an O-ring which now comes naked to add to that oomph factor but needs more servicing than the regular covered ones majorly because of the Indian muddy conditions. The kick lever has been thrown away and the bike only has an electric start now. It also does away with the traditional toe-heal gear shifter and now comes with a toe-only shifter which has been moved back to enhance the sitting posture.

The console is blue back lit in Apache which makes it a charm to look at especially during the nights and sure looks better than the orange colored Pulsars console. Apache comes loaded with a clip-on and a 16 liter fuel tank and despite a very sporty seating position the bike still retains the kick lever (which is finding a dismissal from every bike these days, despite no fault of its) along with the electric starter. Both the bikes come loaded with a 12 volt 9 Ah maintenance free battery and 35 Watt front headlights. Apache has a distinct looking bull horn type split grab rails which sure are better than Bajajs as they also does the job of letting the pillion ‘grab’ them! Pulsar comes in 4 colors viz Red, Black, Blue and silver. Apache is also available in 4 colors with the always underestimated white color finally making way into the Indian bikes along with the sparkling yellow, matt gray and the ‘Black’.

BikeAdvice Verdict:
With not much to differentiate between these two very evenly poised bikes, we were caught in a dilemma as to which bike to crown a winner here. Let us put it this way, in cities like Pune where the difference in prices of both these bikes is close to Rs. 3500 – 4000, we would recommend you the Pulsar 180 for its almost brilliant ‘everything’. This is the bike which does everything in the right quantity and probably would be the best value for money in its price range. It looks huge and superb, handles well, performs with aplomb and doesn’t just guzzle down fuel at its will.

And in places, where the price difference between these two bikes is very much negligible, we would advice you the bigger, evolved version of the tried and loved Apache RTR 160, the Apache RTR 180. We felt TVS made this bike with a lot of heart and it shows in almost every bit of the bike. Just that the vibrations are a letdown still, but can be neglected considering its innumerable pros. In the end, we would just put it this way. You end up buying any of these machines, one thing is for sure, and you would end up ‘enjoying’. So, what are you waiting for, hit the showrooms and book your favorite one.

TVS Apache RTR 180: 8.5 /10 ; Bajaj Pulsar 180 2009: 8 /10

- Saad Khan

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yasho July 1, 2009 at 6:46 pm

thanx sooo much fr the review it helped a lot
i think ive mede my decision to go with the pulsar fr its bigger n imposing looks
but is 51 the highest mileage i can get?
can any existing owners of the pulsar 180 help me out?
wat mileage are u gettin????plz reply


alien February 10, 2011 at 4:44 pm

hey lode i m get 85kmpl…


honey March 21, 2011 at 8:44 am

hey dont lie u cant get 85 on p180………………………lolzz

jagan June 4, 2011 at 1:58 am

are you driving any splendor??

ashwin July 1, 2009 at 9:34 pm

i bought a pulsar 180 ug-4 for 70.3K 2 months ago … i’ve already done 2900 kms in it… its really a soothing experience to ride this bike in highways n average ride comfort in city traffic.. got mileage(reserve to reserve) in the range of 48-56 under different conditions..
Eventhough Apache 180 is marginally better in terms of performance, city riding and braking, it loses by a big margin to Pulsar 180 in the more significant areas viz., (Honda like)ENGINE REFINEMENT(huge leap forward when compared with earlier gen pulsars),Exceptional MILEAGE,VALUE FOR MONEY,STAIGHT LINE STABILITY and most importantly STUNNING LOOKS..


ashwin July 2, 2009 at 12:45 am

i bought a pulsar 180 ug-4 for 70.3K 2 months ago … i’ve already done 2900 kms in it… its really a soothing experience to ride this bike in highways n average ride comfort in city traffic.. got mileage(reserve to reserve) in the range of 48-56 under different conditions..
Eventhough Apache 180 is marginally better in terms of performance, city riding and braking, it loses by a big margin to Pulsar 180 in the more significant areas viz., (Honda like)ENGINE REFINEMENT(huge leap forward when compared with earlier gen pulsars),Exceptional MILEAGE,VALUE FOR MONEY,STAIGHT LINE STABILITY and most importantly STUNNING LOOKS..
OH! You’re my new favorite blogger fyi

Reply July 2, 2009 at 3:02 pm

The TVS wins but just. I would prefer the FZ over these bikes. Fine it does not go as fast, but Yamaha quality is super duper.


jagan June 4, 2011 at 1:59 am

Driving a yamaha is a sheer pleasure as we all used RX100. But when you compare rtr 180 with fz, rtr wins the race. I love my RTR than my friend;s FZ


NEEL July 2, 2009 at 6:00 pm

yeah ~ !! sure the plastic body of FZ is really SUPER DUPER… who says this… R U GONE mad ??? and the build quality is such a horrible in YAMAHA fz 16…


sudeep July 6, 2009 at 8:10 pm

It is a pro bajaj advice not neutral, very pulsar gives 50 mileage, some pulsars give only 38, and after all, rtr 160 is enough to take on the pulsar 180 aferall 160 fi produces 15.7 where as pulsars 16 bhp, rtr 180 competes with the pulsar 200 18 bhp with 17.5 bhp of rts180


Gurprit singh July 8, 2009 at 7:37 pm

here it comes what i need, THE APACHE 180(17.3 bhp), my younger brother have Apache 160 RTR and we both love this bike coz it’s advantages over PUSLAR 180(only 16.5 bhp) : 1)its average 50 to 55 in the city
2)super pickup(far better than pulsar)3)handling, are Unbelievable in this bike and Riding this bike in the city and highway is very friend have pulsar 180
since 1 year and its performance is very poor now..recentely i have a test ride of Apache 180 and it is Tremendous and i will defiantly purchase this bike.Puslar is Not Even near to APACHE in performance Even i have defeated!!!!!! the Puslar 200(18 bhp) with apache 160 RTR(15.3 bhp)in drag race….


HARI KIRAN February 10, 2011 at 11:00 am

u are right apache has strong body and enough to control all the way.on compaing the performance apache is the best its maintainance costs less compared to pulsar 180.after a year pulsar ruins definately coz weak parts it has,

No pulsar beats apache 180.and in the coming april apache200 and 250 variants are going to release to rule the roads


rahul July 11, 2009 at 12:12 am

ahem. someone, probably the reviewer just for got to mention handling, cutting cornors, the Adrenalin rush.. and stuff like tat.
trust me no other bike handles like tvs apache rtr does. cutting corners at high spees is like a cake walk…
deepak and have always been in favour of bajaj pulsar.
pulsar is indeed a good bike. but when it comes to a bike which s gotta go fast… its gotta go fast… and nothing pics up like the rtr does.. trust me.. i ve had a rtr 160 and a p180 ug 3… i mean i hate to drive p180 after i picked up the rtr.. its too clumsy.. with rtr the fun in riding is redefined… the initials.. when you wanna overtake any god damned bike, just downshift and wroom you go… even p200′s had a hard time catching me at the signals… i mean its pure fun.. and even after a year the bike feels the same.. just awesome… hail rtr…


kane July 13, 2009 at 5:24 pm

sudeep: It is a pro bajaj advice not neutral, very pulsar gives 50 mileage, some pulsars give only 38, and after all, rtr 160 is enough to take on the pulsar 180 aferall 160 fi produces 15.7 where as pulsars 16 bhp, rtr 180 competes with the pulsar 200 18 bhp with 17.5 bhp of rts180

Are you Nuts you idiot pulsar 180 ug3 generates 16.5 bhp and newer one generates 16.9.


Jack July 28, 2009 at 1:19 pm


Bajaj is really making its bikes better and better.Refined engine,great increased power(17 BHP ),14 sec.0 to 100 timing what else do you need.The wider rear tyre makes harsh braking safe on pulsar.On apache u will go heavenwads.
Apache still vibrates after 80 kmph,so on highways it is nuts again.It will make the whole body aching on long rides due to vibrations.
And that too when price difference is 4000-5000,and Pulsar 180 is cheaper.I would certainly go for refined,stable,powerful and macho looking Pulsar 180.

One more thing first time, i have seen Bike advice saying good things about bajaj engine refinement.So it makes this bike even more desirable.


Nair April 21, 2012 at 4:21 pm

I have done 1600 km road trip Bangalore – gokarna – karwar – goa – murdeshwar – jog falls – Bangalore on Apache RTR 180. Belive me it was very comforting. No backaches. We travelled on straight stretch, horrible roads, western ghat roads. Apache was very comfortable and fast. Bike handling is superb. Even in speed of 120 you can twist an turn through the NH 7 traffic without fear of losing control.

I had done a road trip from Bangalore – Mysore – Coorg – Mangalore – Hasan – Bangalore on a Pulsar. Performce was good. But at high speeds handling was not comfortable. Apace beats Pulsar hands down.

Given choice between Pulsar and RTR , I will choose RTR.


arun August 18, 2009 at 2:16 pm

bajaj pulsar 150 is one of the best bikes ive rided. i own it too….


Malayali August 19, 2009 at 9:01 pm

I am also planning for a new bike.the review done is appreciable.few things ,I gathered from Dealer Sources:
Pulsar180s new Engine is a great asset for long term usage.that is -you won’t need cylinder kit replacement every 50-60 thousand kms as some people had suffered during 2006 and 2007.the Engine is refined similar to that of a Karizma.TVS Apache is a local R&D on 1999s Suzuki Fiero 150cc bike.still a great one!


V. Vijaykishan August 20, 2009 at 7:24 pm

I prefer the reduced weight of 10 Kgs. of Apache 180 and other
refinements over 160. TVS might have given still better rear tyres.


Gustaakhi Maff Karein August 25, 2009 at 6:23 pm

I apologize for my general statement made earlier favouring Pulsar 180.I checked Apache 180 and I can’t stop appreciating TVS’s passionate work resulted in a great bike – Apache 180.Vibrations are an issue;but the bike is a winner.Engine is designed and implemented by AVL of Austria.It is no more a Suzuki Fiero Clone which Only the earlier Apache 150s were.


Vikas August 29, 2009 at 4:33 pm

thanx sooo much fr the review it helped a lot
i think ive mede ryt decision to go with the pulsar fr its bigger n imposing looks
i got the mileage in City Area tht’s 55 KMPL in harsh traffic and i think it’s too gud to see the features of this bike.
and the balancing and pickup of this bike is much better thn earlier pulser 180. and the look of the bike is much impressive thn tht. so i guess if it can give the mileage 55kmpl in city area thn suerly it can give 60kmpl or above in highway. and it’s also depend on the rider wht kind of ride he is doing if you r doing rough ride thn u can’t get better mileage with tht ride. so tc of ur bike and ride properly


Deepungsu September 11, 2009 at 11:46 am

I have a new Pulsar 180 DTSi 2009 edition… i rode the Apache, its good no doubt, but it feels too small for me (i’m 6’2″ :D).. so i decided to go with the Pulsar… i can only say, i’m glad… looks are killing, performance is superb and the thrill of riding is too good… i believe the choice is personal, but Pulsar 180 is the best for me… all my friends envy me and even a guy waiting for his apache was left deciding again after he rode my pulsar!!
too good, too good..


pankaj September 11, 2009 at 9:01 pm

hi, all i am going to buy a bike this month , please tell m, frnds which is good for m , p180 or apachi180, i am6″ tall.


pradeep February 17, 2011 at 1:47 pm

hey dude take the apache rtr 180 bikes


sanket kothari November 4, 2011 at 2:45 am

Ofcourse go for apache rtr 180

pankaj September 11, 2009 at 9:02 pm

hi, all i am going to buy a bike this month , please tell m, frnds which is good for m , p180 or apachi180, i am6 tall.


Deepungsu September 12, 2009 at 1:56 pm

Go for pulsar dude, Apache looks small for tall guys


shaheer September 15, 2009 at 3:43 pm

i only know one thing that bajaj pulsar 180 is BEast and it can fuk all other bikes


sam November 27, 2010 at 7:11 pm

hiiiiiiiiiii shaheer
pulser is the big bull sheet bike in the world.
the activa is better than pulasr.


sam January 29, 2011 at 4:12 pm

grt comment dude,,i lyk it

HARI KIRAN February 11, 2011 at 9:07 am

Mr shaheer.once check the performances of both the bikes purchased on the same day after a year.definately u will change ur opinion abt ur beast bike pulsar180……….

akhil j April 24, 2011 at 8:38 pm

sam i think for you m80 is better

Biker March 19, 2012 at 2:02 pm

Hey Sam…you don’t even know the spelling of Pulsar…How can you judge its quality. Go n learn how to spell then post here.
Better Luck Next Time…:P

Gaurav September 16, 2009 at 12:16 pm

I stay in Pune and as per the review, the price difference is around 3.5-4 k in Pune?
i checked the on-road price of apache 180. it is 72k approx.
dont know pulsar’s price. but i love apache and want to go for the white colored model. is it worth it?


Raj September 18, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Hey guys….i am really confused whether i should go for fz16 or pulsar 180?????plz help me out…..i need bike better in terms of maintenance &speed…..


abhay September 21, 2009 at 1:50 am

are you sure you clocked 136 with a stock bike because i m planning to buy a bike but i m confused what to buy between the rtr180/ fz16
i use to love the pulsar but with the fairing it has lost all its charm


Dan September 21, 2009 at 9:14 pm

I must say the review were gud… the pulsar180 is not bad, well they(at bajaj)could have done better with the looks like what yamaha did to FZ16 an gave it the name Fazer he he he he…..i would consider a better looking bike atleast…. The Apache RTR 180 is a gud bike with rear disk brakes, kick start option,power, an price(Rs.71,175/- in Goa)seems gud tooo i would consider the Apache.
well but i still cant make up my mind which bike to buy between the two.. u c all i need is a bike in the same 180 range which has good service and less maintainence an gud mileage,an i luv a gud looking bike with power….


nafees syyed September 24, 2009 at 11:42 am

here is a genuine advice to all those who want to buy a new bike. trust me nothing can match apache rtr 180. i have bought it,in mumbai, and just can’t stop feeling above the moon with it. go for apache………………all the best.


Job September 28, 2009 at 12:04 pm

I am planning to buy a high performance bike now as I would like to graduate from my hero honda passion….so which is better pulsar 180 or rtr 180 in terms of riding, pickup & maintenance?


Longbow October 1, 2009 at 11:42 am

hi, m 6ft tall..i think of buying a bike in the coming months..i’ve read the reviews and comments above…all i want is tat the new karizma pgm and fazer 150′s reviews to be put up soon too…do help..!! thanks…n btw,m looking for a good looking and a bike with good handling and mileage..!!


UAL October 7, 2009 at 11:53 am

Go with Apache Dude!!!!!!!!!!


sreekanth October 9, 2009 at 6:24 pm

hi i am planning to take a bike in 150cc segment can u plz suggest for nice bike with 40+ milleage.


sreekanth October 9, 2009 at 6:29 pm

hi i am planning to take a bike in 150cc segment can u plz suggest for nice bike with 40+ milleage.
i decided for fazer and unicorn which one will best


sreekanth October 9, 2009 at 7:34 pm

hi i am planning to take a bike in 150cc segment can u plz suggest for nice bike with 40+ mileage.
i confused for fazer and unicorn which one will best


francis October 14, 2009 at 2:50 am

new pulsar 180 is the best than apache180,there is no doubt.i tried both the bikes.i rode apache at 115kmph it was viberateing like hell,at the same time pulsar didnt vibrate at all.apache’s top speep is more than pulsar but the vibration is so high tht one could not go beyond 110kmps without the end it is a tvs produt how much can u expect,bajaj is already established…….PUL$AR RULES….


tana December 1, 2012 at 12:28 pm

i rode my apache up to 117kmph bt it didnt vibrate dude u had a defective piece apache and about pulsar it sucks


sreekanth October 19, 2009 at 3:32 pm

guys plz tell me which is the best bike among these
plz soon i am buying in 2 days


Badri Prajapat November 21, 2010 at 12:30 am

fazer is better than unicor. yamaha is always great and powerful bike menufracture.
i m giving u a suggestion you must buy apache rtr 180 this is powerful solid with low maintainance bike. great bike ever


Rohit November 6, 2009 at 9:04 pm

I don’t have any of them, i.e., Pulsar 180 or the Apache 180, though i will buy one soon. Only thing i can say that when a pulsar overtakes somebody with a grunt, the impression that it leaves on the overtaken person is awesome…Don’t u feel like this…Maybe not, but i feel like that way, and the Apache can’t sent shivers down the spine…Maybe this is the reason i am more inclined towards buying a pulsar 180 :)


DWI November 15, 2009 at 10:34 pm

My apache 160 RTR completed 1yr last month , had no problems with it till date.
It has provided an average of 60KML (consistently for last 8-10 months) , even in crowded city area of PUNE
Handling is far better then any Pulsar
The bike may vibrate at higher speed , but is still comfortable
I hv driven apache on an Average 80km/hr+ along 120Km on a highway without any pains
Another good bike is Yamaha-FZ16


anshuman sharma November 17, 2009 at 11:33 am

Guys Move on from pulsars……

try rtr

the best byke in 150 to 180 segment

the power,pickup,pettal disk and if you notice the digital meter is also very sexy

and pulsar digi meters all are same and cheep in built….


nitin November 17, 2009 at 9:18 pm

RTR stands for Racing Throttle Response
Apache delivers it all
The stunning looks of apache is also a plus…
I will go with APACHE !!!!


raghu December 1, 2009 at 5:32 pm

hii i`ve read all reviews above………. I was too inclined towards the rtr 180…. but thinking about the average m in dilema now. wat u did guys……..? ok my family forces me for a good enough mileage bike(at least 55kmpl)rtr is my 1st love but it lacks in mileage only…..plz help me guys if u can:)


Reeto December 10, 2009 at 11:35 am

Post reading the above review and comments, I decided to go on a ride on my friend’s Apache RTR 180. The bike is indeed a powerful beast and handling the clostrophobic city traffic is a cakewalk. The acceleration of the bike is splendid and vibrations at higher speeds are definitely present but manageable. The Apache 180 can even out-do a Karizma R in city conditions. I strongly recommend the Apache 180, even for guys who are 6 feet and above. Pulsar 180 is a bit sluggish as compared to this machine.


Siddu December 11, 2009 at 10:23 am

Guys plz tel one thing indeed…is it rtr or ug4?:)…i need to book it on jan1st…deepak can u plz clear this out…vch one is the best…i dont mind abt its mileage and price difference…i am just looking at its performance…:) plz..


Ashu December 18, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Hey pulsar 180 is the best
it comes with gr8 millage,looks,pickup and top speed


sam November 27, 2010 at 7:15 pm

pulsar is falatu bike in millage and speed.
the looks is nice.


ashu October 12, 2011 at 1:47 pm

pulsar is not best 180rtr is the best


Siddu December 20, 2009 at 11:33 am

Ya every thing is gud but i doubt abt its refinement….yesterday i took a test drive of apache 180,pick up and power is amazing…but if it stand beside a pulsar,pulsar seems dominating in its looks.seems lyk a tiger standing beside the cat…newez now decided to go for pulsar…


sam November 27, 2010 at 7:16 pm

pulsar is for only look but atr prformance time aapache beat pulsar every time


savio December 22, 2009 at 8:33 pm

m plannin 2 buy d apache rtr 180 bt should i buy it now o in 2010 just a mateer of 7 dayz will d prices change//


Siddu December 23, 2009 at 8:27 am

It depends on the showrooms…how eva they wont give discount and all ,they may give u gifts or a extra free accessories …according to the info i have got, there is ill be no tag price change by the company…


raj December 29, 2009 at 12:01 pm

east or west pulsar 180 (2009 version) is the best.


Sumanth January 1, 2010 at 11:46 pm

Im takin a bike in a week.i’ve shortlisted rtr 180,karizma r,pulsar priorities are gud handling,stability,mileage,less maintenance.i lyk all of confused on wat to a 6ft guy so i feel rtr a bit short.


sam November 27, 2010 at 7:17 pm

aapache is best bike but u r height is so long for this bike that is the problem other wise this best bike as pe u r requarments.


rohit January 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm

hey i own rtr 180, its 4 months old n its freakin’ cool.. i rode p220 n believe me rtr is much butter than tht!! i had a drag with d same 220 n 0-100 of rtr is quicker than a p220, though p220 eventually overtook mine but i was perplexed at rtr’s performance.. its evergreen black colour makes it stand out in crowd n d way it zoooomes after 6000rpm is fabulous!! pulsar is long lost! rtr rocks n i’m 6ft too n slim, n rtr is taller wider n lengthier n 6ft does not look odd at all.. p220 needs to pull up its socks coz rtr is a deadly racing machine! rtr 180 rocks!!


rohit January 2, 2010 at 5:12 pm

n my rtr vibrates arnd 50-70 n after tht its only a beast!


Dinesh January 6, 2010 at 9:01 pm

Im planning to buy a RTR 160 FI or RTR 180 before Jan.2010. It would be great if you answer me the below questions.

Is the RTR 180 vibrating at lower speeds (60-80kmph). Bcause thats wat i found searching the web about the bike. And is the vibrations a bit of a bother?.

Also can you tell what mileage are u getting from ur RTR 180?

Which will u suggest in buying? RTR 160 Fi or RTR 180 ???

Thanks in advance


rohit January 12, 2010 at 8:49 pm

fi vibrates more than 180.. vibratin is not a problem acually.. its irritating for ppl lookin for a smooth ride.. n some fi’s give problem too.. the fuel injection is troublesome.. my rtr give around 44 in city..
i’ll suggest 180 coz if u just give up d ‘fi’ tag, u’ll get higher displacement n power.. all d best! :)


nitin patil January 16, 2010 at 1:12 pm

TVS is providing a supplemental oil during servicing at few extra rupees , and the oil is really worth , my RTR 160 is much more smoother then before


vishal January 18, 2010 at 3:32 pm

My dear friends. I have Apache 160 .. And my accident was happened last year .. From Apache. If you show was where. So you all might stand hair … last years past the July month’s visit in May was Badri Nathji and Kdernath G .. So there was in the mountains of my accident. The time had my accident. At that time my Byk rate was 110 Kmph. This statue Apache really blast man … He kept me safe. The way the accident happened. I like that scope has Lage. Apache riding really … Is cool man ….. Think before you take anyone else Raye. Buy a byk again … If u take my advice, … Have you …. Hey Apache is really trusteble …. take a test drive…


knock knock January 24, 2010 at 2:17 am

guys….. tired of this apache.. go for p180 or 220.. they rock.. forget bout their old styling… still they( bajaj engineers) have better experience than the tvs in this performance category…. I have an apach 180 and i am sick and tired of it. horrible servicing,,, better service in a garage as they know these tvs bikes better… lol.. planning to go for pulsr next time…. but dunno when … might take yrs.. or who knows less than a yr if I dump this good for nothing engine on 2 wheels


nitin patil January 24, 2010 at 11:26 am

I would like to have one Apache rtr 180
Hey Mr “knock knock” … i wuld like to buy yours


Ravi Prakash January 24, 2010 at 8:38 pm

Apache bike is for kids.
New pulsar 180 is much better looking and
is also a powerful bike with good mileage.

pulsar 180 rocks


knock knock January 25, 2010 at 12:14 am

right said ravi.. thats why my rtr is available for public use… sucking vehicle.. a shame on indian motoring.


knock knock January 25, 2010 at 12:29 am

and guys… it’s true.. pulsar rocked the day it entered into the indian motoring…… and still it is… for so many yrs… great bike… no other bike except the RX 100 has been able to do this.. the first engineering two wheeled 4 stroke marvel of india.. Pulsar family and siblings… all the best guys


naushad February 4, 2010 at 9:02 am

hiii guys
i m planing to guy a bike i have an option of pulsar 180 or apache 180 . I like both the bikes but i m confused which one should i go .


PulsarRulz February 12, 2010 at 9:21 am

I was reading the comments from all of u guys.. Many people think that pulsar 180 returns 16 ps. However, the new Pulsar 180 ug 4 returns 17.3 ps.. I have read at many locations over the internet where it has the top speed of 127 kmph although it is heavier than the apache. So.. I think going for the pulsar will be the best choice for everyone depending upon your likings and dislikings.. I dont know why many people think that pulsar looks same from all these years and always say something against this point. Compare the first pulsars and that of today if got eyes can look at the all over refined and fully loaded bike not only from looks but from technical stuff as well.. Bajaj has always tried to improve the pulsars in all these years according to those people who always think that ever changing pieces of art are because of problems and not because of refinement they are undertaking.


Kunal February 17, 2010 at 7:39 pm

Don’t buy pulsar 180.

i bought a pulsar 180 on march 2007. ive already done 43000 kms and changed cylinder kit 2 times, clutch plates 2 times. Engine quality specially valves(cheap quality valves) are very bad.


Sreekanth November 3, 2010 at 12:10 pm

do u know how to ride a bike or maintain it???? shame on u….stop blaming bajaj for not maintaining ur bike dude…..i have pulsar 180 ug4 and its already done 27000kms….i am a long trip freak….and till date except for engine oil and the rear sprocket i have changed nothing and my bike returns me a descent 40kmpl…i am damn happy with ma bike….so pls dude stop blaming bajaj….grow up kunal and start understanding ur bike then u will neva face problems


razz February 21, 2010 at 11:04 am

buy pusar 180.dont buy apache coz its just a heap of iron and bull shit


HARY February 21, 2010 at 11:10 am

apache is a sim weak and funy bike compared to pulsar180.pulsar is d best 180cc bike of india and its a MACHO.PULSAR IS D GREATEST BIKE OF INDIA FOR EVER


harry January 9, 2011 at 7:07 am


Hi Dude.

you said that pulsar is the great bike of india.

Did any gave the title that the bike is great bike of india.

If it was a great bike why it wasn’t won the title.{BIKE OF THE YEAR}

And after all test why they gave it to TVS niether BAJAJ.

According to your view if the BAJAJ bike is good & fastest it didn’t got the title even in 220cc segment also.


Pradeep February 22, 2010 at 11:06 pm

Hi guys…im goin to buy a bike next month n im totally confused which one to choose(apache or pulsar).. I had already took a test drive of both these beasts…im expectin the bike with a better milege n a good performer…im 5’9 n slim…plz pass your comments on which bike would be good fa me…as this s my first bike,i would certainly use it fa 2 or 3yrs …


mohit March 6, 2010 at 5:04 pm

hey i m going to by my first bike but i m confused abt apache rtr180 and pulsar 180.. which should i buy. rtr180 has less millage and pulsar 180 is too common on the roads.. so plz guide me for which one i should go for i need good millage less maintanence and nice looks. i m waiting for rplys..


Almas March 9, 2010 at 3:43 pm

This goes for all the guys who are confused between a Pulsar 180cc and Apache 180rtr, I used to be confused a few weaks ago, But then I decided to go with female votes to decide one of these two and to my surprise 90 percent voted Apache 180cc and the reason meing it look far more macho than pulsar because pulsar being on road for much time and has become very common, Although it was not the advice I took literally I decided to test drive both of them and decided to interview my mechanic who take care of my Bullet, and also works with Bajaj, There is a Price difference in both of about 4000 in Delhi, However the material Apache has is much more worth than that, Bajaj Showrooms here provide only 2 services but TVS provides 5 services Bajaj does not provided a rear disc braking Apache gives Petal disc on rear as well, The power and speed no dobt is fantastic with Apache I have had Pulsar 150 cc DTSI and a Bullet, but I prefer speed now as busy schedule, There is One of the major issues I have in mind regarding Pulsar and TVS , its with the starting system, Pulsar Does not have a Kick start, Apache have both self and Kick, removing the kick from a Bike in an Indian road was a very bold Step taken by bajaj However I am Not sure how reliable it is, because its a Nightmare to go on a date with your GF sitting at the back and your self would”nt respond, You simply cannot ask her to push the bike so that You can Try releasing the clutch.. or in any Extreme situation, I have kept my bike for more than 5 years now, and I am Not a Person to by a new Bike to sell it again in next two years to buy a new one again, My suggestion to all you guys would be to decide what you want, If its for a long time you want to keep the bike with you Buy an Apache if its not more than 2 years buy a Pulsar. because after 2 years you may think merely 4 thousand might have got you better substance if you might have bought an Apache.


Sameer March 19, 2010 at 5:19 pm

Heys guys,i’ve made up my mind,im going to buy Matt Black Apache 180,But should i wait for Apache with ABS or should i buy it right away?And Can any one please tell me the approx on road price of Apache 180.


vishal April 12, 2010 at 8:36 pm

hii guys….

let me tell you all that in comprasion between pulsar 180 and apache 180 rtr….
1:-look..all guys..even apache rider knows..about stunning bold look of pulsar i dont need to tell
2:-performance..i am glad to tell u that new pulsar 180 retrieve 17.2 bhp power and apache 17 bhp…so more pulsar pulsar u got more wider rear and front tubeless tyres(mrf) which means…more control on high speed..and furious pick up.
whereas in apache tyres are slim so at high speed..u probably skid…
and let me clear the confusion that all superstation that at corner apache is great so this is partially true..go for pulsar u will feel the marvellous controll at corners…i tilted it at an angel nearly 30 degree..very close to road with no heartblow beat…
4:-..mileage..these are not economy bikes so still…pulsar gives a mileage of 40-45 kmpl wheareas apache 180 gives 38-42 kmpl….

so i will suggest u all…go for bajaj pulsar 180….
i own both apache and pulsar 180……and this r the results..i am with ..
.hats off to bajaj pulsar series….

thxxxxxxx a lot…..


harry January 9, 2011 at 7:22 am

2:-performance..i am glad to tell u that new pulsar 180 retrieve 17.2 bhp power and apache 17 bhp…so more pulsar

hi dude, vishal

You said PULSAR 180 has 17.2 BHP and APACHE has 17 BHP

Dude first know the exact values then start comparision.

Displacement: 177.4cc
Engine: Single Cylinder, 4 Stroke
Maximum Power: 17.3 Bhp @ 8500 rpm
Maximum Torque: 15.5 Nm @ 6500 rpm


Reeto April 13, 2010 at 10:04 am

Hi. To be very honest, Bajaj’s Pulsar series is nothing more than a farce. Build quality, paint job, refinement is null and void on the Pulsar 180. TVS has always been renowned both in India and abroad for its performance oriented machines. The Apache RTR 180 is at par with the Yamaha R15 with regards to handling/negotiating corners. Pulsars suck big time when it comes to handling. Apache is also a better-balanced bike as compared to the Pulsar. I have personally ridden on both machines. The RTR 180 is a breeze on highways and ghats. So my vote undoubtedly goes to TVS Apache RTR 180.


vishal April 14, 2010 at 7:12 am


handling is superb in pulsar 180….dont go for that pulsar has got the bas handling,,,,,,,the best bike in 180 segment….pulsar and only pulsar …

and and ……on every mouth you all will find pulsar…
in fact let me tell u….if u own a pulsar 150..and in next to you there is apache ..then all will say..woooooo!!!!!! even 150 compete with apache 160..

and you will not believe i beated apache with pulsar 150 in city….pick up same as apache again hatsss offf to bajaj series….


harry January 9, 2011 at 7:39 am

hi dude, vishal

I accept the thing you said{if u own a pulsar 150..and in next to you there is apache ..then all will say..woooooo!!!!!!}

But this i can’t{and you will not believe i beated apache with pulsar 150 in city….pick up same as apache again hatsss offf to bajaj series….}

Because if PULSAR 150 can beat APACHE 160. Then why APACHE 160 beats PULSAR 180.

Dude don’t compare like that. It’s all in the rider’s ability.

And new biker’s can’t enjoy the riding thrill in PULSAR. That’s the reason why the lanuched PULSAR 135 see vedios.Because they are loosing sales because of APACHE.


Japn April 14, 2010 at 11:55 pm

Hi all
In this segment nothing else matter but the need for speed and looks nobody can deny looks of pulsar period…and you r also gettin fuel economy that is good enough in 0′ing ur options…i would hav opted fr karizma it was fuel efficient …ur choice ur money iam proud owner of P-180.


vishal April 15, 2010 at 1:13 am

apache skid at 60-70 km/hr..what i can say a major defect…could let to u misery….

so again pulsar more power more pickup best grip(at 100+)it does not vibrat at all thats my gurantee…and controlling is just like buttering the bike….


santhosh April 16, 2010 at 10:35 am

my only problem 2 buy apch 180rtr is its vibrations.i am 5:8.which is suitable 4 me in pulsar 180 and apache 180?


santhosh April 16, 2010 at 10:37 am

is new pulsar 180 better than apc 180 in style or racing?


harry January 9, 2011 at 7:50 am

hi dude, santosh

PULSAR can’t be better than APACHE in racing part.

If the PULSAR 180 can beat APACHE.



Ayan April 16, 2010 at 12:03 pm

I m from west bengal , I really confuse to buy between pulsar 150 & pulsar 180 ……. Please help me for suggetion … & tell me what about really milleage this two models bikes…….


nirav6369 April 17, 2010 at 11:15 am

forget both these bikes…….just close ur eyes,go buy pulsar 200.Its the best of all pulsars,& obviously better than anyother bike……in terms of performance,styling,economy and everything


rikish143 April 28, 2010 at 10:50 am

Hi guys here is a genuine advice.. If u want only speed then buy rtr apache 180.. But if u want a gud milage as well as speed then go for pulsar 180.. both the bikes are cool and stylish.. both bikes has cool performance.. The choice is yours guys.. pick the one which suits u..


knock knock April 29, 2010 at 6:32 pm

at last sold off rtr180…. planning for a p220… already booked it guys… pulsar rocks big time….


saravana May 8, 2010 at 2:17 pm

hai bike gguys..the pulsar ahead in looks than apache.but fucks in its sound and my vote is for apache..apache is really a wild cheetha….


Omkar May 8, 2010 at 4:20 pm

H3y gUys rtr 180 is an awesOme beast wic i won frm last 5 months. If ny1 wanna go for performance tan u go for rtr 180
it really rocks…..rathr tan p180 or p220
Good Pickup.
AwesOme braking..
Better mileage….40-45 average…of city n highway
better finishing tan p180….damn sure in itz parts
proper weight and power ratio…
easY handing tan ny pulsars handling is heavy…
ma rtr 180 goes frm 0-60 witin 3.5 secs as rtr has 0-60 speed time tracker nor evn 220 hav it…
n the roar of this beast wOw awesome….
as RTR stands for Racing Throttle Response…
n ya itz sure u wil get response……wen u jst race teh throttle……….


Anand May 9, 2010 at 3:32 am

i hav booked apache rtr 180 today(8.5.10), is it a good decision?????????, i hav pulsar as choice and i chose the white menace ,since my city has lots of black pulsars


Darshan May 21, 2010 at 1:32 pm

Hey friends, I know the exact on road price of Bajaj Pulsar 180. It’s Rs.76,517/- in bangalore as on 20th may 2010.


rahul May 21, 2010 at 7:37 pm

i am 6 feet height. i felt bore on seeing pulsar on every nook and corner. on other hand no other bikes are giving mileage like
pulser.where as apache rtr 180 is nearer to iam going to buy apache rtr 180. bot it looks small


sunny May 22, 2010 at 12:39 pm

best bike ever seen m proud to b an owener of rtr 180,,…
m an owener of pulsar 150 also but no power,bad handling and no milage only 35-40 soo i got rtr 180 rokzz ma white pearl is awesome … ma top speed is 132kmh…till now…
i got milage of 38-45 which is affordable…
and bout vibrations it is some in 5k-7k rpm..but no matter in performance and speed…!! u’ll knw after test drive… go for APACHE and m sure u’ll like this bike…
i have win many drag wid pulsar,karizma,cbz ex,fz also…!! and proud to b winner…alll credit to ma white pearl…!!
it suit me as ma hieght is 5.2 only so it is good for average hieghted ppl…!! ma vote for rtr 180…!! goo apache luv u…!!


ToRqUe May 28, 2010 at 11:57 am

i love both the bikes this is just to clarify some things

1. all the people saying pulsar roks in handling have not ridden the RTR beleve me RTR is a true traffic cutter!!!
nothing comes close xcept the R15 the SHEER JOY of riding this bike(RTR)u simply wont get in others

2. the person who has written this comparison for this website himself has sed RTR is a better performer than p180 so have endless other magzines(thats for the all the einstines&newtons over here)

3. just because some ppl have had a bad experience with TVS service dosnt make APACHE a bad bike

4.for ppl saying apache looks small keep a pulsar and the RTR side by side very close take a measuring tape then tell the difference between height width length ull find its just because of the tyre difference&the pulsar rear plastic tail
2ndly racer bikes are suppozd to be short/light its simple physics see what YAMAHA has accomplished with R15

5.the guy who sed to go for a P200 :D dude which world are u living in?!? bajaj doznt make the P200 anymore

6.sum1 sed he beat a RTR160 with his p150 dude u wer either dreaming or the 160 NOOB didnt know how to ride his bike thing ill agree to is TVS servecing is not good but it is improving
another is that the TVS tyres SUK fit zappers it will improve breaking by 200% +cornering which is already better than pulsars

8.the bikes vibrations are not so bad as ppl tel them to be
all the guys who have booked the RTR/or gonna do so relax vibrations reduce to nothing in a year or 2 provided u look after ur bike like ur girl some oils are xtremly helpful in reducing vibrations

9. TVS really knows what its doing believe me, its the only company INDIAN HOME GROWN with its own RACING DIVISION!!!!!
let me see&hear BAJAJ say that!!!!!!!!!
TVS bikes have out done every bajaj bike in that respective class…
TVS is learning from its racetracks guys
its not long before they outclass BAJAJ…
speaking of refinement vibrations is a small issue(which they are improving with every release

10.there are a lot of people simply blindingly misinforming other ppl about RTR and TVS
it needs some work on its after-sales

11.ALL THAT U HAVE READ ABOVE ARE FROM ME>> I OWN A P220 & RTR160 i love both the bikes


subbarao October 13, 2010 at 7:48 pm

I am going to buy either pulsar220 or rtr180 in a day or to, since new R is not easily available in the market. After see most of the reviews I am wondering why TVS being such a big manufacturer is unable to overcome the vibration problem in RTR which even a lay man is able to identify. Do they really need such long time to over come the problem or they are not interested in overcoming the problem because the better quality body increases the cost of the vehicle………


rtr_FTW May 30, 2010 at 9:41 am


Well said dude… I own a rtr180 and no one seem to come close to me except r15 when it comes to speed and pickup …


nitin patil May 31, 2010 at 4:43 pm

Apache is a piece of cake in the traffic
Really love the twists and turns that can be made without loosing balance….. too good enough to keep all others behind


Anand June 1, 2010 at 2:37 pm

i won apache rtr180- pearl white
1.can any one suggest me a suitable helmet design ,and iam travelled almost 300kms now and iam planning to climb uphill to ooty before my first service, i dont know weather driving new bike uphill is a good or bad can someone pls help me ,pls comment as soonn as possible ……


dipesh view October 30, 2010 at 12:26 am

hello Anand Try there are many international brand but i dont now weather they are available in india but i just saw steelbird helmet full page advertisement in mid-day news paper i search lot about them i found that they are good. range start from Rs 750 till Rs 3500.


abhay June 8, 2010 at 10:25 pm

my personal xperincE bOut pulsar n apache,

i hav 10 yearz of byking xperince,

firstlY i wud lyk 2 say sRy 4 mah bad ENGLISH,
Ok… guyz i hav 3 bykZ now pulsar 150dts-i(2005){sold} den i gOt den i got apache 160 in (2008) den pulsar 180 dts-i UG4 without kick start(2009) n nOw dayz i hav PULSAR 220dts-i S(2010)may-21-2010 n mah brOda hav RTR 180(2010)v both purchase bykz on same day, itz mah 3rd pulsar juz coz i m a big fan bout itz quality,lookz n performance….!!

ok now com in pOint of comparing both d bykZ p180(2009)n RTR 180(2009)=

APACHE 180= great handling,Osum pick up,gud breaking(vid rear disk){if u apply both d diskZ 2gethrt}
Drawbackz=it hav rear disk bt slimmer rear wheel if u apply rear brck in speed more den 100 u’l got damage ur byk coz of bad gripz on road ovr rear disk brk,nt gud mileage,mch xpensive den p180 n TVS hav less xperionZ(dat i think),xpensive auto partz if u get damage,poor service

PULSAR 180= gud handling,gud pickup(less as compare 2 apache) graet breaking(fatter rear wheel givZ lotz of support in bracking),great mileage 40-49(as compare 2 RTR bt dependz on ur driving),cheaper auto partz,great service
DRAWBCKZ=doez nt hav kick start option,bt no problem it hav autochoke facility,even in cold u cn easily start ur byk vid self,lack of rear disk brck,nt gud pickup as compare to RTR..

i m vry rude n rough driver,i m 4m jinX group in indore, v r performing lotz of stunt vid our bykz-racking,burnout,wheelyz,stoopiez etc.
for stunt riderz i perferz apache u cn do stopie easily,360, n wheely
n dOz who wan everything in average i perfer pulsar=gud mileage,macho looks, n u cn do al dat stunts (bt more easy vid apache)

i personally suggest pulsar 4 u all coz BAJAJ hav lotz of xperience den TVS,itz quality,mileage,killing lookz n performance, i jus hate apache tail light n front show oveall byk z gud bt pulsar z BAAP of all other bykz n yeah plz dun go vid Fz16 n yamaha family dey al r phuking shi-t,dey hav only great show vid fiber body(BAKWASS)


diz z = aBy(jinX)


ToRqUe June 9, 2010 at 8:53 pm

when it comes to pulsars only a 220 is worth owning
rest r all cattle herd…
even the dhobi,doodh wala,rickshaw wala,newspaper walla has a pulsar
its ther in evey nook&corner of this earth!!!

u have a strong bias towards pulsars its obvious ull suggest it
at 100 breaking of RTR is ROCK SOLID!!!
the TVS tyre is a problem like i sed change it to ZAPPER or PERILLI
then comment about breaking

yes the servicing is poor :(

pulsar has been tuned to give more mileage to appeal to the masses

RTR is an out & out racer…when ur a racer mileage is none of ur consern “u dont go to buy a 1000cc R1 & ask the showroom guy about the mileage!!!!!!” :D

TVS has more experience than bajaj 4 ur kind information
not in marketing but in making a good engine
when BAJAJ was making autorickshaws TVS was taking part in national RACES!!!!!!
but u have to give BAJAJ credit for their achivment with pulsar

the build quality of RTR is the same as PULSAR

u have hardly had an RTR just for a year…
i dont think u have experienced the full pros&cons of that bike…

y did ur brother get RTR then??
ur comments are clearly biased
ur a fanboy dude ;) (no offence)

and dont disrespect YAMAHA
its the other way round YAMAHA is the BAAP of biking
they have achieved what BAJAJ will take another 100years to do so (without help from KAWASAKI :P )

like i sed…racer bikes dont have unnecessary weight dats y the fiber body
FZ16 is a fine blend of everything…performance is a bit dissapointing
R15 is the pinnacle of technology its in the same league as the p220…… a 150cc engine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get my point broda ;)


abhay June 11, 2010 at 12:44 am


dear aftr reading ur coment,
i tsted both d bykz on 10th jun on highway,aruond 30 km of continue riding at constnt 110-120km/h…apache giv lotz of white smoke 4m cylincer :D(so wat 2 say bout TvS engineZ n Xperince hmm :D)
n yeah bout apache gud tyrZ n bracking(itz bracking it gr8 n tyrZ quality z2 bad man, juz try 2 do burnout vid both d tyrZ MRF- pulsar n TVS-apache u got d result)

RTR is an OUT racr(vid racing DNA tec.)-bt dude evry1 wan a byk wu hav evything lyk racr,milaege,look,performance.

apache=17.3 Bhp @ 8500 rpm
Maximum Torque: 15.5 Nm @ 6500 rpm
0 to 60: 5.23 sec.(i tried vid mah A-180)

Pulsar=Maximum Power: 17.20 Bhp @ 8500 rpm
Maximum Torque: 14.2 Nm @ 6500 rpm
0 to 60: 5.38 sec.(i tried vid mah p-180 ug4)
n yEah mAh brOda hav A-180(juz coz he lyk dat byk n itz white colour vid rear disk)

n if YAMAHA is d bAAP of byking den he z also d BAAP of itz HIGH PRICE(FZS 76’500 n FAZER 79’800 mumbai both d byk hav 153cc engines n look only) evn i beat FZS vid mah RTR 160 :D

Maximum Power: 14 Bhp @ 7500 rpm n 0-100 in 15 sec :D(same on YAMAHA if he had dat mch xperince)juz chek out itz vivration after 120km/h u got d ans.

n dude yeah i knw racer bykZ dun hav mch weight den y apache n FZs hav only 125km/h top-speed den pulsar 180 132km/h, juz try n find out wuz d BEAST

n 1 more thing R15 is nt d same leage as d p-220,mah frnd hav R15 only 135km/h(bt aftr 110 u hate diz byk coz of tz gr8 vivration n slim tyr) n p-220 148km/h(i tried both)

n brOda if u wan 2 compare p-220fi,den compare it vid ZMR(gr8 byk)………b4 posting ur comntz plz try d bykz vic u wan 2 compare den giv comntz(dun mind)… u hav lOtz of knowlege bOut byking history dAt i got 4m u..:)

get mah pointz brOda :)

nywayz p-180 ug4.5 comZ vid tubeless
n apache vid read disk dat i knw 4m body changez,

dear all frnd, diz z al r mah personal comparing,so i m nt saying k juz buy pulsar…wat evr u wan buy dat 1,
i knw u all wan dat type of byk vic hav everything in ryt way,
—–b4 buying ny byk jus kep in mind som pointz—–
some new change in both bykz
RTR 180=17.3 bhp,rear disk,tail light,white colour,clip onz,u cn check ur 0-60 tyming in itz digi. meter etc
Pulsar 180= 17.2 bhp,single-step seat,panel,fuel tank vid clip onz(4m p200),both tubeless tyrz,disk brck 260mm etc,try blue olour pulsar itz cool,
njOi d ride:)



ToRqUe June 11, 2010 at 3:17 pm

hey sup :)

u know u shudnt have done that to ur brothers bike
u got it on 21may its new
u sed u have 10years of experience im not denying that me2have around the same experience

BUT u shud have followd the RUN-IN 500kms the manual sez but its cutting it too close u can speed after 500kms but what u did was immature…
for a new bike that kind of run is not a good idea
RTR takes a lil more time to settle than pulsars u wud have known if u experienced the bike for more than a year
its a bit different
first2months u have to take very good care of the engine if u do that the bike is set for life…
RTR ages like fine wine (provided u dont do stuff like that)
mine is 3years old its as good as new!!!!
im taking the same kind of care for my p220 dtsi

white smoke!!!
sumthing has seriously gon wrong with ur brothers bike
3years with RTR160 i have never faced a problem like that…
get it checked ASAP!! the oil is not right i think u shud change it

i dont think ur aware of “speedo errors” every bike has them
true top speeds of R15&p220 is around 135&137 respectively
p180 cannot touch a true speed of 132 its tru speed is sumwhere around same as that of RTR180

they measure these TRUE speeds by V-BOX super accurate sattelite GPS systems used in fighter planes by the military they even use it in F1 cars so thers no arguing that..

if ur refering to speedo speeds ppl have reached 135 on RTR 160Fi 145 on R15 and p220 ther r endless videos but these r speedo errors

“n 1 more thing R15 is nt d same leage as d p-220,mah frnd hav R15 only 135km/h(bt aftr 110 u hate diz byk coz of tz gr8 vivration n slim tyr) n p-220 148km/h(i tried both)”

there are many ppl around that have taken the R15 above 145 speedo speed u cudnt is a difrent story
if a 150cc can do that it is undoubtedly in the same league as p220 &its commendable!!!!

thers this thing about R15 its not as simple as twist the throttle&blast ur was to glory as in a p220… u need to manage the gearing right to get it to speeds excess of 145
which it does…u need to practice on an R15, for that just a single ride doznt cut it…

bike advice themselves have got these true speeds…
so have many many other good magzines & they do what they do best thats y they exist…

and yes fz series doznt stand a chance with RTR160 p180 RTR180
its not a racer i was talkin bout R15

ther r sum limitations with RTR not cuming with good tyres but its nothing u cant change
doing a burnout is not a way to test a tyre
these r the bikes ive owned in the past
p150 earliest
RTR 160
p220 dtsi RTR & p220 i presently have rest sold

& my younger brother p180ug3 & R15

presently in the stable are p220,RTR160,p180&r15
2of my brothers 2 of mine
ive ridden the new p180 the oldr one feels faster!!
so i think i have experience to speak about 2009 p180 even though i dont own it…


yamaha r15 engine June 28, 2011 at 10:08 am

hi ToRqUe,

good comments on this topic.

may i know whats the speedo reading for:
true top speeds of R15 = 135kph gps
true top speeds of p220= 137kph gps

done some testing on speed errors on youtube
on Honda CBR150 and Yamaha Sniper 150 (same engine sa R15)

true gps speed recorded: 139kph


ydn June 12, 2010 at 12:06 am

Apache r just nothing for all these apache makes so much of noise than other 180cc bike. I think that tvs hav forgotten 2 change the silensor, Radiator Hahahaha…… I just want 2 give u advice that Guys who prefer Apache should change their mind coz pulsar 180 is much better than apache. It hac better looks, pickup, throttle response, braking system too. Rear drum brakes of pulsar 180 works much better than apache’s Rear disk brakes. Shame on Apache!!!!!!!


ToRqUe June 12, 2010 at 11:13 am


ur the most naive and misinformed person ive ever cum aross
1st of all apache doznt have a radiator!!!!
2ndly u have never ever ridden a RTR180 i can tell just by reading ur comment
It hac better looks- maybe, its totally subjective view
pickup- in ur deams! the older p180 was better in pickup
throttle response- yeah right, im not sayin its bad but apachez definately better than p180
braking system too- u really havent ridden one have u :D

ill agree to this the rear disk is as good as a drum break!!
but it doz its job mighty well

i suggest u gather more information about bikes& how they work b4 makin a fool of urself by telling apache has a radiator!!!

shame on u dude!! :P

this is what i ment any1 comes here without half the information about RTR or how their own bike works and start telling bogus nonsense :D

atleast as a biker i respect what abhay has to say..


nirav6369 June 13, 2010 at 3:46 am

to torque…..
yes u r right,bajaj doesnot manufactures P200 anymore.But it used 2(during which i got 1).I have fitted K&N filter & re-jetted the carburettor,also fitted unicorns monosuspension.i got drop of mileage by 4kms…
but now none of the RTR’s can compete my pulsar in terms of pickup & acceleration.
I hav also driven rtr 160 and 1 thing that i personally think is that pulsars are heavier,which makes me feel that u can bend ur bike during turns without fear of slipping.

secondly,pulsars have the shortest distance of braking(u can check in overdrive),rtr does have good brakes but the comparatively thinner tyres tends to slip easily.

I personally dont have any grudges against rtr,but wot i want to clarify is that both bikes hav their own pros & cons.U decide which u want to buy according to ur requirement…


ToRqUe June 13, 2010 at 10:19 am

yep tvs tyres really suk!!!
the slipping is ther coz of the poor tyre quality&grip not cos thyr thinner(even the thin R15 tyres r better)…they r vry gud for a couple of months after that u HAVE to change them :x
the petal disk of RTR is the best on any indian2wheeler its just coz of the tyres its a real let down!!

i got mine changed to PERILLI tubeless i felt a great increase in cornering capacity…
ya pulsars being heavy can stick to corners at hi speeds for them its their weight that supports them
for RTR its the dynamics of the bike that do the same thing
both work differently to do the same thing :)

but when it comes to flickability switching corners rapidly or traffic cutting pulsar feels clumsy this is where RTR shines…
within the city or for cornering i use my RTR its pure fun!
for touring its p220..
ive got k&n & upjet on my A160 too dude :)
&no offence about the p200 comment ;)… cool

@all RTR owners change ur rear tyre ull feel a significant improvement


Cyril July 3, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Hi guys,
Im planning to get either an apache 180 or pulsar 180…im 5’6″ tall and slim looking…which one will suit me…


ravibiker July 4, 2010 at 7:35 pm

rtr 180 is gr8 bike and my brother bought it last week in chennai-ramkay tvs.styling ,pickup,disc brakes are good.but the vibrations r frequent even at 50kmph anyway its ok..rear seat is not comfortable and even front seat rider ll get back pain during long ride..control is bit low at high speeds..overall it is a power beast frm TVS.tis s my unbiased review abt our new bike.


brijesh August 26, 2010 at 9:34 am

hii…am in a very urgent need for advice….!.:),, im 6 foot.. a college bangalore… i need a bike which i can use for another 4-5 years..!!.. giving good mileage… which do i go for…. APACHE 180 RTR OR PULSAR 150/180 OR CBZZ EXTREME…OR HUNK…!!!!!


Sagar(gotya) September 2, 2010 at 2:48 pm

Hi, i m a normal worker in IT . I buy a bike 4 up-dn i m confuse 4 which buy good bike (gud avg sporty looking & strong) like tvs 180,cbz ex,pul 180 )pls reply me


Reeto September 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm

Rode my friend’s RTR 180 from South Mumbai to Belapur (Navi Mumbai). I am quite amazed with the bike’s acceleration. Even with 2 heavy people on it (my friend weigh 80kgs n I stand at 86kgs), the engine shows no dearth of grunt. Pick-up is very good n much better than the Pulsar 180. The RTR also is really quick to the 100 kmph mark than the P180. I managed a 115 kmph on the speedo with enough throttle left for another 10 kmph on the Vashi bridge. Handling is an aspect where I feel the RTR scores above the R15. P180 can’t even be compared to the RTR 180 in terms of handling. The RTR is ever-eager to be flicked into a corner. It also handles mid-corner bumps well. My opinion – RTR 180 wins hands down against the Pulsar 180.


santhosh September 15, 2010 at 6:00 pm

hi i buy a apache rtr180 its a good bike n gud ferformence
better u go for a apache rtr180 its my 3rd bike in apache


santhosh September 15, 2010 at 6:39 pm

hi apache rtr180 it is a good bike for riding go for it


bharat September 19, 2010 at 3:43 pm

i’ll be like buying a bike in the nxt 10 dayz….
im inclined 2wards apache simply coz itz gr8 2 drive…
heard ppl saying tht tvs has bad servicing….
wht mght be the xact prb wch i’ll be facing???????
and can i xpect 2 mileage of 44 in city????


bharat September 19, 2010 at 3:45 pm

and every 2 gy has a pulsar…..
so iz ther any major reason y i shdnt be buying rtr180???


Su ka pha September 23, 2010 at 8:54 pm

Would like to know which of the three bikes are better in comparison to pot holed , unworthy roads???

Espcially frm the 180 SERIES of PULSAR’S AND RTR’S AND FZ YAMAHA?


Arijit Battacharjee October 10, 2010 at 9:35 pm

i need scotty or vespa


jay malhotra October 13, 2010 at 2:00 am

sorry guys,

I would like to suggest you to see the difference with 1 year old bike (pulsar and apache rtr 180) and then compare .. definitely you will see the difference..

I also have 1 apache (180) for the last 1 year, but i found that performance continuation wise pulsar is far better than apache yar..

it has severe electrical and mechanical issues.. which persists ….

and there is also a severe problem with its jets… at the speed of 30-40 it continuously jerks which makes city and traffic ride a bit difficult and compromises top speed also.. .. ..
thats y i would like to suggest you that before putting your hands on any one pls check these problems.. .. and then decide which one is better….


Murali October 13, 2010 at 8:01 am

I am having Suzuki GS 150 R. Amazing and Awesome bike.


dipesh view October 26, 2010 at 3:23 pm

first of all I am saying in the name of god / ram / ganesh / shiv that i am genuine owner of Tvs apache rtr160EFI baught before 7 months on occasion of gudi padva. i can proudly say rtr160fi is the best byke yes it use to vibrate little between speed of 57 to 63 km/h but after 1200 km its vanish and bealive me guys its very smooth just as suzuki gs150r but it doesnt feel like dead battery motor byke but still smooth. i was keeping my eye on apache since its launch ( apache 150 ) since then it become better and better. i heard vibration issue abt rtr160 lot but i bealive boys just goto test drive they drive byke which is very new hence vibrate bit little at speed of 60 so they set back and drive Fz till speed of 70 and went crazy and immedieatly buy it but after that they regret it. i did extensive research on bikes including companay history check even small parts read thousands of review. i realise difference. First of all who is bajaj ?? one indian company who use to make local byke ( because they dont participate or sell there byke in foreign ) they make there byke in garage not on race track like tvs yamaha honda suzuki, i respect all this big company but do they give u that racing byke in india ( in bugdet of 70k ) No tvs is byke which offer u same engine which have won 90% racing ( if not bealive then check result of gulf motocross race / and all ) check quality of plastics design of both byke just check brake lever, handle, silencer, engine of pulsar ( primitive age / stone age ) check RTR each and every part yes i am saying each and every parts i bet u cant point even single fault or unnecessary design. Do baja know what is ergonomics ?? racing ?? quality ethics..? though apache rtr tyrs not that gripy but still apache has the indians best braking capacity guess what if u change it with tubeless i just want to tell u one thing many will agree with me on this point. My uncle work in R&D department which use to work for tvs in development of ECU ( fuel enjection technology ) he have open all bykes engine including R15 what he learn is Bajaj simply reduce bike engine life to increase its mileage. he told me mileage can be increase but engine life will decrease yamaha / tvs / honda / at least are following this ethics they are not in mad race for increasing milege with cheating. This is reason why torq vanish from bajaj after 2 years and charm after 4 years bajaj quality have reduce after they seprated from Kawasaki we use to admire bajaj for there engine durability but now its change for sake of profit our indian man think abt millege only so bajaj is popular. just check 10 year hero honda splender and 4 year old platina u wil feel the difference.


ToRqUe October 27, 2010 at 8:45 pm

@jay malhotra

that my friend ur facing coz of poor servicing…
i opted for a well experienced/established mechanic a long time ago
they r better than these service mechs!!!
u need a thorough service/tuning from experienced hands

my 2+year old RTR160 still shows no signs of aging (engine performance wise)
& also i wud STRONGLY recommend a different oil
MOTUL 5100 semisynthetic 15w50 is the way to go!!

what u do to ur bike is wat u get from it!!!!

dipesh view
“First of all who is bajaj ?? one indian company who use to make local byke ( because they dont sell there byke in foreign )”

i disagree to this point both bajaj&TVS have international markets in brazil & Indonesia….
u have to give credit to them as well
like my above posts p220 is not a pushover bike(irrespective of reliability)
yes they hav a tendency to misinform the public about their products :P
*no offence*


ToRqUe October 28, 2010 at 9:34 am

@jay malhotra

“it has severe electrical and mechanical issues…”

-i still havent replaced a single bulb in my ride…including indicators&switches
(if u use starter with the headlamp on ther r more than 50% chances either the pilot lamps or the headlamp will blow SEZ SO THE MANUAL TOO so read it!!
&by the way even pulsars hav dis problem except the 220 & the new 180 coz they r FULL DC)

-starter still works fine…facing battery issues??
1st time start..every day use kick, then u can use buttonstart all day long
so sez the manual too so read it(again)

-rear LED tail lamp set of RTR is perfect
(unlike my p220 rear that got busted in a year for no reason apparently!! :x
it is well known that RTRs rear led set is more robust than pulsars)
as for mechanical issues i dont believe that pulsars have any lesser issues than RTRs
provided u maintain ur ride like ur child u wont have any major issue ever!!


ranjith October 29, 2010 at 9:17 pm

nothing comparative to apache


dipesh view October 30, 2010 at 12:07 am

@ToRqUe -
bajaj&TVS have international markets in brazil & Indonesia….
u have to give credit to them as well

Thanks for correcting my information yes i remember i read it somewhere. i just wanted to say that they don’t participate in racing.

yes i agree there is strong need to change rear tyre of RTR front one is working fine but rear sleep on wet surface such a way that i feel embarrass. well i just like to tell you its not like bad quality material or like that. Tvs have use that tires specially to keep balance between performance and Mileage. if tyre have soft compound it will have more friction more road grip less mileage and tyre life. And if tyre has hard compound then it will have less friction less road grip but long lasting with more mileage. so tvs engineer have compromise on this front just to keep RTR mileage @50 km/ litre other wise its not possible to give performance with such millage. RTR is more powerful then pulsar and all other 150 cc bike and has more cubic capacity still it give more mileage its due to its shorter wheel base and hard tyres. I am confuse between should i keep stock tyres or i should change it with tubeless ? is it possible ? i am in big dilemma. Now RTR 180 also came with 18 inch rear tyre,. so can we use that tyre or we can try another also..? My concern is will tubeless tyre give more road grip and performance without reducing mileage..?


sushant dixit October 30, 2010 at 9:19 am

pls let me know baja 180 or rtr 180 which bike are best ?


Sourav November 9, 2010 at 1:15 am

BAJAJ 180 z d best..!!
trust me its superb n sekc…


Apache indian November 8, 2010 at 5:40 pm

i’ve got my apache180.!!!what a pickup!!! All the pulsars (Except 220)are just behind me.catch me if u can!!!!!!!!!!!


Sourav November 9, 2010 at 1:11 am

4 middle class family..
best 5 bikes..
numabh 1 . ZMR
numabh 2 . p 220
numabh 3 . R15
numabh 4 . p 180
numabh 5 . apache 180


ToRqUe November 10, 2010 at 4:34 pm

upper class middle class obc bc THIS THAT…….
stop taking it too seriously :P
a bike is a bike
&a biker is a biker


Sourav November 9, 2010 at 1:14 am

Best Batsman – sachin. bradman n lara
Best Bolwer – Murali, Mc grath n Shane warne

Trust me Frnds..


ToRqUe November 10, 2010 at 4:27 pm

@dipesh view
not aware of 18inch for A180
it has a 17inch rear rim
grip depends on the make&material not tube or tubeless
i wud say blindly go for pirelli soft compound tubeless 110/90 havent cum across a tyre that can match that grip!!

@sushant dixit
purely depends on what ur lookin for
no compromise in power=RTR180
rest i have clarified enough in above N number of replies
&yes thers no “BEST” :D


sachin November 12, 2010 at 4:56 pm

i book pulsar 180 it is awesome bike compare to rtr180 becoz low maintence

pulsar gives good mileage and also give style comfortable handling good performance with good speed

pulsar r0CkS


Sourav November 14, 2010 at 12:07 am

haan we all knw pulsar Rocks
Pulsar z d best..
ppl whu Gt apache rtr..jst wait 4 2 yrs..u Gt ur result..
coz I hav pulsar n apache..
pulsar Rocks..
apache Sucks..
Cent % true..
dashin guyz hav dre Own Fun..pulsar Rulez…


Sourav November 14, 2010 at 12:12 am

@ apache Indian..
All the pulsars (Except 220)are just behind me.catch me if u can!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh really ???
stop Dreaming…
apache + CD 100..
kadwa race…
so stop Dreamim..wek up..


sabbir November 18, 2010 at 8:04 pm

Pulsar 180 & 220 Best Bike. Tvs Apache Is a Bad Bike.


ToRqUe November 19, 2010 at 8:40 pm

“coz I hav pulsar n apache..”
o really..
then u can tell me some unique features only RTR series have

“apache + CD 100.. kadwa race…”
dude :p how old are u???? tell this to a real biker hell laugh his head off

“so stop Dreamim..wek up..”
its u who needs to wake up :D
RTR 180 has the capacity to stand against p200 my friend….do sum more research
u may be relying on sum misinformed teenager who was in sum galli ka race & won against even a greater NOOB…

being a biker & loving a bike isnt just about racing…….who looses who wins whoz the best dosnt matter
its in the GUT man!!!!!
its in the passion of bikes….
when u hear the firing of an engine ADRENALIN shud b rushing thru ur body
respecting other bikes like u do ur own is one of the marks of a TRUE biker… :)
2nd is knowing his ride….

making comments like
“pulsar Rocks..
apache Sucks..”
is pure childish…. p180 is an amazing machine & i respect that never did tell otherwise….myself, an owner of P220 dtsi(read sum earlier posts of mine)
im just clarifying MAJOR misconceptions pp have about apache
apache suks… cent % NOT true neither does pulsar
both have their advantages&disadvantages…
so grow up…


karan agarwal December 13, 2010 at 12:08 am

hey guys i am 6″2 which bike is good for me apachertr180.pulsar180


IPSIT December 14, 2010 at 8:46 pm

Hai friends Iam ipsit I rode on apache. apache vibrating in 125 speed. I ride also pulser. pulser is smooth then apache. pulser is not vibrating in 125 speed. apache is a toy


Madhan December 29, 2010 at 2:05 pm

Hi guys,,,,,,, I went through all your reviews….. I am planning to buy a byk in jan second week… please suggest me either pulsar 180cc or apache rtr 180. I am expecting better mileage and good look as every one expects… This is the first time am gonna buy byk on my own.. i dono much abt byks.. please help me guys…… price not matters……


sreelal March 5, 2011 at 1:35 pm

RTR is best, you suddenly contact nearest showroom


Amar kadam January 6, 2011 at 7:07 pm

hi, i like apache rtr 180 because he is smooth riding, best power to ride, full braking system, best fuel conjuption, He is best bike than pulser 180…..


Bharat jangid January 7, 2011 at 8:57 pm

Don’t buy pulsar 180…..i hv rd rtr itz runs likes a running machine….its awesome bike…! Ya its milage is very low as compared to p180….but still it rocks….;-)


harry January 9, 2011 at 10:29 am

Hi dudes,

I am harry

Every one first half all stop asking that weather this bike is nice or that bike nice.

just buy what you like that’s all

Because their is no lots of differences in the same segments of 180&150cc.

It just the way looked and impressed about the bike.


Raj January 9, 2011 at 7:35 pm

Bajaj pulsar never compare apache .Apache is best not pulsar. Be sure .Kñowledge is more important than exprience


harry January 11, 2011 at 8:52 pm

hi dude, raj

Even though in knowledge part also their is no lots of differences in both bikes.

accept .1bhp fairing and size of the bikes and rear dics brake

TVS comes in square engine. Which BAJAJ comes in normally

Their is a little difference in brakes TVS comes in roto patel dics and BAJAJ comes only front normal disc

Do you call this as knowledge dude still their are little differences in these both bikes.

Which i can’t write completely here.Like TVS 180 with big carburater etc…..

But as comes to BAJAJ PULSAR’s they really get sucks after 1-2 years its my own experience

The silencer and the engine makes a sounds like a stone moving in a box.

That’s the reason why i said their is no lots of differences in the same segments of 180&150cc.


saurabh January 19, 2011 at 9:25 pm

hi i m 6’4″ tall>>>> im confused between pulsar 180 and apache RTR ….both cost around same
i m fan of pulsar bt main thing i worry is abt its kick >>> pulsar 180 is not having kick….
also there is grt trend of apache RTR these dayz>>>>>>>.i want only looks and mileage…….. i don’t hav to race with anybody above 80 >>>>
anyone plz recommend me a better bike …………………………..


harry January 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm

hi dude, saurabh

For u r height go for Pulsar 180 it will suites you very nice

But Apache it doesn’t suites for your height because it will looks 2 small for you

You will feel like your riding bicycle

Your right about the kick start which Pulsar’s didn’t had their seems 2 be little prob’s

As per stylish it’s ok.But in cold conditions & when a girl friend sitting back side of you

If the bike doesn’t start’s with self start. It feels a bit odd.

anyway for your requirement Pulsar is best. Rest your choice.


saurabh January 21, 2011 at 9:11 am

@harry— i hav recently seen karizma R which is a bike with kick as well as self start >>>>also the price is very reasonable ……….bt the size is very large
what u think abt ths bike???????


harry January 25, 2011 at 1:55 pm

hi dude, saurabh

For u r height u may go for zmr also even though u r a little thin.

The bike has history. That it ruled the roads as king for 2 year roughly.

No problem without thinking you can go for karizma R.

For you all the bikes will suites you.Except a small bikes.


nEpHoP January 27, 2011 at 12:22 am

i would really love to own 1 of these bike and i am bit more attracted to pulsar but after seeing apache rtr 180 for sometime i am felling to like apache rtr 180 and would like to own 1 but the LETDOWN is that i heard lots of people say it vibrates like a hell and give low millage i would be happy it it would give me 45-50per litter in city ride and ya i am not a speed freak so i would be happy at the speed of 60-90 which could keep me away from vibration so can u please tell me which 1 should i chose thank U.


harry February 6, 2011 at 3:01 am

hi dude, nEpHoP

First thing it’s your choice.

Honestly saying the pulsar’s give more millage.

Apache will surely give you 45-48kml. That depends on your riding style.

In here both bikes are almost same. If u want millage go for pulsar.

If u want racing experience go apache.

When then also if u can’t decide. Just choose which attracts you more.


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 8:58 pm

good reply

Raftaar Bharali January 29, 2011 at 11:21 pm

Pulsar is gorgeous! its majestic amongst the class and with a refined engine, switches, battery life, performance along with a good decent mileage of 45-50 in the 180 cc truly a good bike!

The comfort of the split seats are superb unlike Apache!

alas i love my UG4 P-180


shalik February 18, 2011 at 3:39 pm

hai frnd i bought pulsar 150 in 2009 its so comfortable to ride i kept high speed as 127 there is no vibration in the speed the rear wheel is much more grib to bent . i have bent with three person till the engine cover touch the road .any one can challange me with 160apache


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 8:48 pm

“rear wheel is much more grib to bent . i have bent with three person till the engine cover touch the road”
yeah!! keep doin that & be sure not to wear a helmet :P
the world will b better without nutcases like u who have no respect for not only your life but the two other bapuji k bandar sitting behind u


piyush June 18, 2011 at 6:43 pm

sorry yarrr i hv 180 otherwise i chalenge u…


mustaq ahmed February 21, 2011 at 1:15 pm

mi don’t have an power bike but i like apche220cc bike most because its powerful and fashionable.


mustaq ahmed February 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm

i don’t have an power bike but i like apche220cc bike most because its powerful and fashionable.


vaseem ahmed February 21, 2011 at 1:23 pm

my hobbies are bike riding and horse riding because they both are fast and i like Apache 220.


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 8:57 pm

y are u & ur brother above u or thats u only….whatever*
discussing about a bike that no1 has seen ridden or bought :P


amit February 26, 2011 at 8:58 pm

indian no 1 rocking bike pulser my pulser 180


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 9:02 pm

pls learn to spell the name :P


srinivas.n March 11, 2011 at 8:20 am

apache rtr180cc is better than pulsar 180cc in performance……………..


MANDY March 19, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Apache ABS, Now what wud u lik2say P180? First go nd get rear disc… So stop comparing cutting edge apache wid pulsar… I own a rtr 160 ‘RD’ aftr 1 & half year(23k km) pickup is awesome and i enjoyed every single km i rode, and now too i use2enjoy it, its rocking…


Smily March 24, 2011 at 2:51 pm

Hey guys it is very confusing the thing is first i had a pulsar 180 cc that is the first dtsi engine it was like no other bike has crossed my bike in race it was superb it has been theft now i am planning to buy a bike i am totally confused which bike 180 Pulsar or 180 Apache i testdrive both the vehicle
1. Apache its is getting a vibration when u peep no problem in pulsar
2. Apache is having initial pickup but in pulsar it is not having initial pick after 3rd gear it peeps, it is not like my old pulsar when i asked the dealer he gives a reason that for a better mileage they dropped the initial pickup.
3. Pulsar give the better riding Comfort because of new split handles and 220 cc charssi, fork and bigger wheel base with tubeless tire.


bharath April 4, 2011 at 3:10 pm

i am bharath frm hyderabad i have apache rtr 160 and it gives 52 kmpl in city riding conditions i advice you to take apache when compared to all 150cc segment


Benjamin April 8, 2011 at 5:49 pm

TVS has vibrations problem. So book a test drive before you go in for any of these but the RTR’s acc is far better


dinesh April 12, 2011 at 5:48 pm

pulsar 180 is good in performance and mileage
whom ever watever says pulsar rocks
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newbegin May 2, 2011 at 10:48 pm

Hey guys..
Frankly speaking.. i was planned to go with Pulsar. before that i wanted to consult the both bike riders,and bike mechanics and automobile engineer students.. i did.

I have gone through all the reviews which available on internet. lot of R&D !!!!!!

At last i felt Apache RTR 180 will be the best for me.. Its my personal opinion.
Now I am riding it.. one word to say…. Awesome…
Dont Worry Go For It….. Wroooooooooooooooooooom


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 8:54 pm

good u used your own mind for a change….& posting it here is useless if u read the kind of shit people comment here its full entertainment :D
degrading the name of a good website


Ruzaickrafeek May 20, 2011 at 12:55 pm

Look guys, we buy bikes not just for racing! Its mainly to cruise. According to one’s capacity one may choose bikes from 100cc to 250cc. Its purely foolish if one is concerned only about racing in 180cc series either its pulsar or apache. In a 180cc series one should be concern in safety, mileage, less vibrations, smooth riding, long lasting and low maintenance. I agree that apache is above pulsar when it comes to performance but what’s the purpose of performance if its rider is in high risk because of stupid vibration? In 180cc series pulsar is best and its tried and tested.


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 9:12 pm

“if its rider is in high risk because of stupid vibration?”
vibrations dont cause risk unless u weigh less than 40kgs
yeah if ur talkin about road grip then i agree the TVS tyres suk!! change them & u change the whole senario ;)
but dumping a bike just because of that is an even more stupid thing to do. u cannot tolerate vibrations is a different story
but there are ways in which u can murder the vibrations u would have known if u owned the bike. mine is among the few RTRs what are vibration free
maintainence wise apache is better i never had to go through any major engine repair in 4years of such rough usage!!!!!! & ive never met any pulsar owner who hasnt replaced the bore or piston kit after prolonged rough usage
dats y i keep a REEAAALL close watch on my p220 the bike is great but bajajs engine reliability always HAUNTS me in my sleep!! :x


suhas.M May 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm

i feel apache is far better than pulsar because apache is good looking not only this but when compared to mileage apache is good and the road grip of apache is highly excellent. It also has a fuel injuction pump which no other bike has including pulsar.And the colours are also very attractive.Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo guys better prefer Apache than pulsar………..


vivek May 26, 2011 at 8:35 pm

hi guys r u confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dont worry u select apache bcoz when u ask ur opinion with others majority will vote for apache … so buy apache and 4get pulsar and let this pulsar production be stopped………….let apache 250cc start ……….so APACHE ROCKS >>>


Sakthivel BE May 26, 2011 at 11:40 pm

Better u can buy a herculas cycle rather then buying a apache…


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 8:43 pm

& so can u if the petrol prices keep increasing the way they are LOL :D


rahulmohan May 27, 2011 at 11:51 pm

apachae rtr 180 is great.iam getting a mileage if 48km.


Hilton May 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm

I’ve bought a new pulsar 180 which got 18 bhp engine.its great . smooth riding on 8o-90kmph on highway. 6″4′ long , rear tyre is 130 mm with super zapper grip..makes it best bike of the year 2011…in its segment……I am 6″ tall and I think pulsar 180 in unbeatable by any fucking RTR 180 and others…..


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 8:32 pm

“makes it best bike of the year 2011…in its segment……”
who awarded it?? U? :P

“I am 6″ tall and I think pulsar 180 in unbeatable by any fucking RTR 180 and others…..”
ur height does not matter in the discussion…
the only things P180 beats RTR180 are mileage & SALES


gaurav dev June 2, 2011 at 8:30 pm

hey guys…look..
i am professional stunt-man..was following this discussion rite from the beginning…here’s what i think..
The apache is a very compact powerful bundle which gives all that u need… But if u are a real rider..(like me..:)) i u need to do wheelies n stop-pies n burnouts…go for pulsar…

i own both the bikes…wen i need to go to the city..
i prefer the byk…but in my work tym..its the BEAST…PULSAR….

i would advice the youth to go with apache.. getting a pulsar n not using it the way it is meant to be used is an insult of the bike…

n i maintain my bikes very well…i am personally trained n experienced enuf..
guys talk abt power,,top speed n blah blah…
what the hell do u do with the bloody power in India…
ride bikes to go from one place to other and with some attractiveness…
apache rtr 160 has it all..guys… Indian roads are not meant for racing…
if u go for my words ::its APACHE 160…meant for collegians,,n normal highher middle class ppl…think economically too…


ToRqUe June 10, 2011 at 8:41 pm

finally some1 talking some sense…
RTRs disk are better for stoppies just b sure to change the DAM tyre!
& no other bike does burnouts better than apache coz of the “awsum” grip :P
the tyres & vibrations are the only down point of this bike….
once TVS works on them it will shut all its critics up & the childish ppl here who comment like “MY DADDYS GOT A BETTER CAR THAN UR DADDY” :D
Cmon when will these guys grow up!! :D
most guys have coverted to :D


DAVE June 14, 2011 at 8:51 pm

In my opinion the apache s beter than pulsar i hav an rtr180 after a long ride we cannot feel any pain to our body and power its superb…..and i also like fz bcoz we can control the bike very easy. risky cuttings fz is beter than rtr…for the better breaking i prefer rtr only coz its escapes me from 2 accidents. in the case of mileage 43km in cities and 45-49 in highways……we feel vibration in the speed between 65-80 after that we cannot feel any vibration…in my bike top speed is only103 …..but in my frnds 160apache my top speed is 120. in that speed i cannot feel any vibration…this the main reason to take rtr180….in my opinion rtr is best….. RTR THE KING


piyush June 18, 2011 at 6:36 pm

hlo racing dudes……. i hv the racing beast rtr 180 and my cousin hv pulsar 180 and we both usually use to race in our streeet….

and the obvious result we always hv … my apache wins…
best pick up best throtle best looks best milege and best colour….


Aryan June 27, 2011 at 3:54 pm

hi i think is pulsar 180 is good more than apache 180 but apache 180 white colour is mind blowing, amezing……….so i like pulsar and apache


Ajay July 9, 2011 at 12:08 am

I hav a pulser wich i tink s better thn apachi in milage nd style nd gives a sports bike look wen v drive it


Raffiraj July 19, 2011 at 3:05 pm

i like apache and pulsar…when i am raid this bike n get pick up..


Raffiraj July 19, 2011 at 3:12 pm

i have bike royal enfield same as get milleage apache & this both bikes nothing drink fuil and waste…


rohit July 30, 2011 at 5:13 pm

final conclusion…..TVS guys sitting out here and praising their product……If apache is so gud and pulsar is so bad…..then why doesnt it shows in sales???? Pulsars still dominating in sales and market share…..let ppl decide…


Sanket July 31, 2011 at 7:39 am

Anyways u guys buy any bike , but my honda cbr250 sabka baap hai….ye pulsar 180 aur apache 180 kuch bi nh hai ……..cbr250 rocckx


ToRqUe August 12, 2011 at 12:27 pm

when it comes to 250cc,,,,,,,in india Ninja is the baap of 250s

twin inline NINJA VS single cylinder of CBR
twin will have more power than single CBR 25bhp vs NINJA 33bhp…go figure it out :P

CBR is just a VFM 250
ninja is better in each way except for its cost


Rohit tripathi November 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm

Bosss cbr250 se bttr hai cycle use karo………….bakwas bike


subin August 8, 2011 at 1:17 pm

i had a 6 years old apache 150. There is no problem wid ma bike like vibration. It is a very gud bike i owned ever. Ma frnds has an apache 180 and also a p220. In drag races we defeats 220 many times. Apaches are always better than pulsars in terms of quality and durability.


KinG*Is_bAck August 11, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Oh Man….! TVS Apache 180 is Just awesome in Performance, speed, pick up.. than Pulsar 180.. even Pulsar 200 cant beat apache 180… Great looks and over all looks like racing bike.. i just love it…… pulsar is just for name but Apache is worthwhile… The person who wants to rule the road should buy Apache 180……..


alok August 20, 2011 at 3:17 pm

i have pulsar 180 UG-4 it give me everything what i except from a bike….
good pickup, good mileage, great performance, very stylish and sexy looks…….
i love pulsar and it is better than apache…..


pradip August 22, 2011 at 10:49 am

apache is best,its better than pulsar,and it will be best in future……………………………


pradip August 22, 2011 at 10:50 am

Oh Man….! TVS Apache 180 is Just awesome in Performance, speed, pick up.. than Pulsar 180.. even Pulsar 200 cant beat apache 180… Great looks and over all looks like racing bike.. i just love it…… pulsar is just for name but Apache is worthwhile… The person who wants to rule the road should buy Apache 180……..


BOSS August 26, 2011 at 11:08 pm

Hi guys yamaha rx100 s de best apache rtr or pulsar catch my bike smoke if u can……
n torque dnt u hav ny wrk i think u fully concentrate on the newer version of bikes and the spellings dnt wry if u can understand thats enough dnt worry much dude…


Dev August 28, 2011 at 7:40 am

I live in rewari i went to harsh bajaj rewari pulsar 150 and 180 ki milage mei he bhut bdda confuse hai…koi right nhi bolta khud bajaj dealar,mene dealar se 180 ki avg. Puchi bola 35, mene kha mere dost ki 180 hai wo to 45 ki deti hai ,dealar bola wo purani wali hogi…


DeEp DAs August 30, 2011 at 6:16 am

Pulsar 180 awesum….i hv mine Pulsar 180 truely my top speed 114 …nxt i’ll try to do 123 :D


Suresh Babu September 8, 2011 at 3:12 pm

im badly lov wt Apache RTR 180, Hey guys itz not gud 2 thnk abt milege in thiz segmnt..
dont compare bikez in its top speeds. driv speed s 55kmph for the ppl who lov their bike & parents… by 444220


lucky September 23, 2011 at 1:08 am

heyy ToRqUe : first i want to thank u for ur sincere comments. i was in a fix which byk to purchase searching on net since more than a week, now hav makeup my mind to purchase apache rtr 180 white. is there any option to change the rear tire at the time of purchase???? if so which 1 is best suitable…….


Bhagirarh October 4, 2011 at 7:34 pm


good looking of pulsar 180cc bik


AMIT RANA DHANAURA October 6, 2011 at 10:28 am

My RTR is so best than pulsar. my top speed is 120…….. it’s R000CKINGGGGG……


C.Boopathi November 9, 2011 at 11:50 am

Hi Friends ,
I decided to buy the 150 cc bike but i have confusion in selecting the bike ….
from my list pls suggest which is the best in performance and mileages and in handling , low maintenance…
HH Hunk
Bajaj Pulsar 150
Honda Unicorn
Tvs Apache


sambeckham November 12, 2011 at 9:44 pm

hi boopathi,i bought ma apache jus before 1 month ,amazing bike gud in style and pick up…ma request is plz go for apache rtr 180..dont compare even pulsar 220 with rtr 180…rtr is king..


shashank December 6, 2011 at 11:41 pm

my apache rtr 180 rocks…. iska pickup jabardast and iski vibration hi to iska fun part hai….. handling is superb.


amrinder December 13, 2011 at 10:37 pm

appache rtr is father of all bikes and pulsar180 is small son of apache


Rohit December 21, 2011 at 5:58 pm

hey guys, need ur suggestion please
I have seen review in maxabout website abt apache mostly owners are facing vibration problem, tyre life is very less, Is it true??
I am confused whether to take 180 or 160 coz.. in pune 160 costs- 72,400 and 180 cost 78,600 but if I consider.. adv. of 180 1.tubeless tyres both 2.10% more big tyre than 160 and n more power.. however mileage is less.. I dont travel much.. just on sat n sat so which one I should go for
your individuals reply would be higly appreciated.. coz m planning to take this beast on 1 jan 2012


sachin prasad January 4, 2012 at 12:15 am

guys help me out im planning to take pulser 180..,is dat best in these days compared to other bikes in certain feilds???


siddharth dwivedi January 4, 2012 at 10:56 pm

apache is d best bike in his range than other bike, pulsar change his sound after 1-2 year…


vikas January 18, 2012 at 8:38 am

pulsar 180 is the best apache m h kya sara plastic h


team pHb October 25, 2012 at 9:14 am

hey blind duffer …………………..


Vj January 21, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Pulser 180 iz d superb bike yar…..& d top speed 135 km/hr
pulser d name is enough


saurav April 24, 2012 at 9:33 pm

re bhosari wala apna speedo meter check karwao. Wo false show kar raha hai. Pulsar 220 ki bhi aukad nahi hai 135kmph jane ki. Aur kabhi apne us old and odd looking pulsar ko apache se race laga k dekhna, pani na pila di to phirkehna.


veeresh January 21, 2012 at 8:29 pm

thanks for information guys . . . I am buyin apache 180 . . Coz its my dream bike !


ADA February 2, 2012 at 10:22 am

at last tell me which one is more prone to accident?


suraj February 7, 2012 at 10:03 pm

apache rtr 180 cc is best in class by everything


Jason February 12, 2012 at 9:18 am

I m going to buy Rtr … But wat will be itz life.. I mean about engine and all.. Really confused. M 4m ghy… Can i keep it for around five six years.. I really like its handling n pick uup.. But m really confused… I sold my pulsar , which i had for five years.. Wid no problem… But i need a chnge.. Pulsar bohot ho gaya yaar jaha taha pulsar n pulsar only.. Dimaag kabhi toh kharaab ho jata hai dekh dekh ke.. Do u all really know in guwahati bajaj pulsar is having itz largest sale for around five years.. Pulsar is gud engine i know dat.. But i wll nw like to know rtr 180.. Kahi dhoka toh nahi khaunga nah.. Plz advice friendzzz… At last drive safe ..


ravi kumar k June 22, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Buy tvs apache rtr180 abs good bike engine is good runs 100000 mms no problem raugh use better road grip also grt zapper tyres


dinesh February 27, 2012 at 9:54 pm

east or west APACHE 180 is the best


Rohan February 28, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Hii frns ,dis month i m bying nw byk so pls tll me wich 1 z gd ,p180 A180


Prasanta Roy April 19, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Hii!!! frns, 3month ago i am bying new Pulsar 180cc it is mind blowing.


Prasanta Roy April 19, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Hii!!! frns, 3month ago i am bying new Pulsar 180cc it is mind blowing.
Addres_ Dinhata, Coochbehar


aditya May 15, 2012 at 12:33 pm

hey guys i prefer to apche 180 rtr rather than pulsar bcoz pulsar is now a common bike.
bile lo sabse hatke .apache rtr 180 is good.


Rishu June 18, 2012 at 9:05 am

mere paas apache 180 h aur jinko lagta h ye thik nahi to ek race ho jaaye in HP mai same fuel same track lot of trafic and only 50 km track bahi pata chalega k kisi pick ache h and kon c bike fast h call me 09041046902


ravi kumar k June 22, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Hi I hav Apache RTR 180 cc white color very sexy bike scare ingly fast bike dual disc pads stunning looks Bajaj pulser waste no comfort for driving go for apache 180 rtr very nice its a new beast to rule the AREASssssss……


Ravi June 24, 2012 at 9:58 am

Both bikes have advantages and disadvantages.
The vibration level in apache is slightly higher than pulsar this is due to the light weight nature of the engine. But the engine is like Gem.
Handling part in tvs is way better than pulsar that makes you more confident and comfort in apache.
Pulsar’s strength is its look, fuel efficiency and cheaper than apache.


shereef July 27, 2012 at 3:41 am

pulsar is an very good veicle i enjoyed my 6 years with my pulsar…….. thanks for bajaj


sajal September 24, 2012 at 4:07 pm

I purchase a redwine pulsar 180.. My god what a power, Just rocks on the roads,
When any other bike(except pulsar220) goes beside me just look a toy.
Dont think about oil….If you had passion for biking. go for pulsar180 and everytime you will ride feel like a ghost rider………….

Pulsar 180 best…….. apache -hahaha


Arup Mahanta October 19, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Apache 180 Abs new is the best.


Sowrabh October 24, 2012 at 1:55 pm

After seeing all the comments, I can say one thing.
We all are bikers, come on respect each other bikes.
Both are equally good.
It all depends on your FATE, when you buy a bike(Pulsar or RTR) Is its QUALITY 100%.
I have a Pulsar 180, no regrets for it, even RTR is very good.
Major difference i would say is RTR wouldn’t look good for people who are bit TALL.
Be Happy with your bikes, and buy the ONE which you like and don’t listen to OTHERs.


team BHP October 25, 2012 at 9:10 am

we jst went a ride in apache180 and pulsar180 ,apache180 has more power compare to pulsar 180 ,apache marks0-100 for jst11.9 sec ,and pulsar marks 0-100 for 13.98sec…and we think that apache is the best compare to pulsar


Aakash December 22, 2012 at 2:56 pm

i hv an rtr 180…..the bikes awsum…..on the other hand even the p180 is gud….comple
depends on the rider….what he wants….

End of the day what maters is….YOU shud reach home back….
and my rtr180 has always bot me home safely


Leon February 24, 2013 at 12:00 am

Hmmm … Sounds well for the both bikes but I m planning to buy the RTR 180 ABS since it has got a great sporty look…Well I m city rider but fond of drag racing at highways …. but my friends say that the RTR engine starts vibrating after crossing 80 km/hr is it true I want to know plz help becoz I have not test drived the RTR yet… but I have rided both p180 and p220 it was a amazing experience …. And I forgot to mention that I stunt up with my bike therefore I want to know that is RTR a good choise or not plzzz suggest …. Ur suggestions r very much valuable for me…


nanda kumar April 25, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Go for apache rtr guys…it is the best racing machine compare to any other bikes in its class & amazing pickup looks mileage and low maintenance …. i’ll suggest rtr


rtr fans club April 25, 2013 at 4:38 pm

no complaints about apache rtr guys except slight vibration….but pulsar 180 faces gearbox problems, drive chain sound, poor braking and poor pickup (poor performance)….. go for apache 160 or 180 and feel the power,performance,handling much more…..


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