Here we go again. Bajaj does a ‘classic’ again. It all seems that the 2001 era is back. We have seen it, now experience the exhilarating performance biking in the form of carbureted Pulsar 220.With the launch of this bike Bajaj has made it clear that they would not bow down to any better known manufacturers (read Yamahas). A few months back Yamaha did it with a technical supremacy in the name of R15, now Bajaj follows with some ‘never-seen-before-on-Indian-bikes’ performance figures. With this launch Bajaj has showcased their brilliant engineering prowess which can give tremors to any bigger known Japanese makers.
If we date back a few years; November 2001 was the month which probably would go down in the Indian history which marked the entry of ‘affordable performance’ bikes in India with the launch of classic Pulsars. Performance and technology doesn’t mean anything if they are not affordable. Bajaj has always been proactive in giving tremors to competitors and here comes a bigger one! Enter the new 2009 edition Pulsar 220 DTSi. Bajaj today launched the much hyped and probably the most awaited and an all important launch of this year-The biggest Pulsar from its stables, the Pulsar 220. This bike is much more than just a non-Fuel Injected version of the Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi. Read on for all the changes made to this bike which take it to a different league altogether.
Changes In The New Model:
- Carbureted: In a lovely attempt to provide performance to masses (by reducing costs) yet keeping mandatory things in mind, Bajaj has dispensed off with the Fuel Injector of Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi. Now the bike comes loaded with Indias biggest 32mm Ucal UCD 32 venturi carburetor in place of the Delphi-supplied throttle body type fuel injection system in the Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi.
- Power Output: The power output of the bike has risen from 20 Ps (@8500 rpm) of the DTS-Fi to a whooping 21.04 PS at the same rpm figures, a full horsepower more than the fuel injected mill in turn breaking the 20 bhp jinx which we were stuck to for quite a long time. Torque figures remain the same at 19.12 Nm but the carbureted Pulsar does it in 7000 rpm which is 500 rpms more than the fuel injected version. This also ensures the revvy nature of the engine with abundant torque available all through the curve.
- New Piston: Keeping the cylinder dimensions same at 67 * 62.4 mm, the piston now comes in a new screen printed graphite based Malycote material which helps in reducing friction between the piston and the cylinder walls and also improves upon the engine’s anti-seizure traits.
- Oval Pent Roof Combustion Chamber: The bike also gets an oval shaped roof combustion chamber which enables to maximize the charge density of the flame propagation path which ensures maximum combustion even with leaner air-fuel ratios.
- Larger Air Cooler: The engine remains air-cooled as in DTS-Fi but needs to maintain a steady cool temperature now gets a larger air-cooler on this bike with 33 percent more cooling area which ensures that the bike runs cool even under high temperatures.
- All New Ignition System: The bike also incorporates an all new ignition system with engine temperature sensors built into the cylinder head to aid a rider in a perfect ride without any loss of torque or any flat spots.
- All New Auto Choke: With this version Bajaj has to ensure that the user doesn’t suffer from cold starting problems with the bike, now a carbureted version. To counter this possible issue, this bike comes loaded with an auto-choke which enables the bike to start in coldest of environments with ease.
- All New Clutch Assembly: The biggest issue with the earlier iterations of the Pulsar series was the lack of clutch responsiveness and the lack of feel from the clutch under slightest of loads. Seems like Bajaj has paid a special attention on this front and the bike sports an all completely enclosed clutch supplied by FCC Riko. The bike has a reported slick and much better feel than the earlier iterations which makes the bike even better to ride.
- All New Gearbox Internals: Adding to the new clutch system, Bajaj has ensured that all the known issues are rectified. This gearbox, which is one of the biggest problems for Bajaj, has been overhauled with some major component changes. The bike is reported to slickest Pulsar till date.
- All-Black Theme: The bike gets an all-black theme with black alloys, engine, swingarm and forks from other iterations of the same stable and makes the bike look a killer.
- Soft Compound Tyres: The bike comes loaded with the R15 reminiscent soft compound tubeless tyres which make the bike a dream to handle while on corners and also makes sure the bike is planted under extreme or harsh braking. The tyres remain the same size with the front being 90/90 * 17 and rear being a meaty 120/80 * 17 which also aids to the overall killer looks of the bike.
- New Designed Logo: The bike also gets a metallic protruded Pulsar logo reminiscent to the new Pulsar 180 2009 edition. It also gets a revamped clip-on handle bar along with a redesigned console background.
- Catalytic Converter: The bike, now, with the exclusion of Fuel injector, incorporates a catalytic converter to absorb the harmful gases from the exhaust and in turn making sure that the bike meets the soon to be enforced Bharat Stage 4 Pollution Norms.
Performance:
Here we are talking about the most talked about feature of the bike, its performance. Bajaj calls this bike ‘The Fastest India’ and the bike’s traits lead us to believe every bit of it. Zero to sixty dash comes in lesser than 4 seconds! It is a huge more than half a second faster than its fuel injected sibling. Zero to hundred is achieved in around 11.5 seconds and this is a whooping two seconds faster to the DTS-Fi. Add to this the true top speed of the bike is reported at close to 140 kmph with the Speedo reading in excess of 145kmph. Now that’s fast by any standards and furious in Indian standards.
The bike lives upto its claim of being the fastest bike in the country and with a great margin, the brilliant tech-laden R15 included! Roll on times reported for DTSi are a tad slower than DTS-Fi, thanks to the latter’s more emphasis on low and mid range torque but flip the throttle and here you go astride the fastest Indian bike in production today in the country on the DTSi. With some scorching figures like this, not much is expected out of the mileage figures of this bike, but wait……! There is more to it than what seems evident. Expect the bike to return a handsome mileage of something in the range of 35-40 kmpl on real road conditons and this by any means are great figures. The engine roar has also been made gruntier and the self starter note also has a sweet muscular note to start with.
Along with all the above listings the bike gets all the typical pulsar goodies like the Exhaustec, lovely power and torque at all rpms, cheaper spare parts, projector headlamps, a 12W 9Ah maintenance free battery, dual horns, Wolf-eyed front semi fairing, rear Nitrox shock absorbers which do their job with near perfection.
With this bike, Bajaj has again produced a winner, more so with keeping the bike in direct competition to a newly-born Apache RTR 180, Yamaha YZF R15, Yamaha FZ series, Hero Honda Karizma. For sure, all the mentioned bikes will face the heat with the aggressive launch of this bike. This bike is set sure for turning the fortunes of Bajaj. Great move Bajaj! Let’s see how this bike fares in the market. If you are looking at a screaming performer at an affordable price, than there is no bike in the market which could match the practicality and “Value for Money –ness” of this bike. Go get this bike and burn the roads!
- Saad Khan
Source: ZigWheels
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DTSFi flopped ? Will Carb succeed ? The speed gimmick will be out soon, we will see R15 smoking P220 on road. Bajaj finds improvements every year, so next year another improvement ? Very bad company, cheating people
Copy Paste Technology, from Bajaj, HH, RE, TVS, KANDA, N rest of the makers.
All the companies buy new cloths on every occassion for their products. All companies are doing best to become more dumbndumb day by day. Please send them One Rose and SAY “GET WELL SOON” n so to the government, just like M.B.B.S movie…
Thats the truth,just markiting gimmicks dosnt go for long…..I doubt there intention.
Personally speaking, P220 still haven’t got the look to win me over but let’s be honest guys, this is a very aggresive move by Bajaj and right on the money.
No doubt this deal is going to spoil the party for R15, FZ-16, RTR-180 and Karizma, big time. Specially RTR-180 and still to be launched semi-fairing FZ. Bajaj is trying to nip them in the bud.
If the bike proves to be as good as the initial reviews are claiming it is then all players better get moving, and quick. And if that happens then that’s good news for us
One interesting thought … there’s one 125cc available in 70+ grands. I hope it does well
Nice review buddy!
I wasn’t aware that the bike is offering so many features on such a low price. This is the real deal man!
I’m planning to get a bike soon and had almost finalized FZ16 but now I’m confused.
Saad, can you please suggest which one I should go for – FZ16 or P220. There isn’t much price difference here. My preference are – excellent handling, stylish looks and good overall performance.
boss u r spending 10 k more for 6 bhp+ greater power ,6 Nm+ torque ,rear disk +regular pulsar goodies….. if u do the maths properly u will find the choice 2 b clear…..
Carb should succeed, because its price right. Its a amazing bike the Pulsar 220 and it needs to be successful so we have a better bikes in the future.
Fastest bike! where is the R15.. it still rules for being the fastest… i would love to smoke the pulsar with R15 even though its an underdog with less bhp and less CC… yahh! what wins over all is.. the price is very very competitive… in terms of R15 price.. so Yamaha need to think something about the price… but i hope they dont compromise with the quality.. which is already been complained of.. having poor plastic quality.. and bike having rust at several place and also the alloy being broken when hit the potholes.. Yamaha.. wake up! for all this things..
Once again The new Pulsar 220fi had done the job with good Noisy performing engine like (grinder) this was one of the best thing in India tat they are giving all the features of a very very less amount
R15 & Karizma are the best bikes when compared to this big disaster p220
One thing is sure Bajaj is giving steel braided disc brake pipe. Which is the best part. It can be put on any motorcycle. When we use disc brake, regular pipe expands and the efficiency becomes less. Steel braided pipe is best for performance purpose. (I hope it is teflon coated)
I own a Zma, no mods.( 6 yrs old )
I dragged with the p220 fi.(not a proper drag)
But cud infer tat upto 110 both were same.. but after 110.. the p220 started to pull away slowly from me..
now with a better performing 220 dtsi… zma will not be clsoe to it for sure.. HH wake up!! stop adding stickers, plastic pieces.. and i just hope they dont release a Karizma R+ or R Pro with more stickers..!!
http://www.youtube.com/ChandruBS
continuing the comment…
and i test rode the r15…
For tall guys(I’m 6″1) its a disaster…
Felt lik i was in hell for those 3 mins of my life.
almost impossible to change gears.. leg and ankle bends too much
and very bad torque.. in doubles u go on a hump.. and u cant take off in 2nd gear..
i also dragged with r15.. and it was no wher to be seen for upto 70kmph.. but after that. all the aerodynamics, and non-requirement of torque came in.. and he overtook me after abt 70-80kmph… so in city traffic dragging.. r15 is just lik any 150cc bike coz of its lesser torque( torque=pickup)..
http://www.youtube.com/ChandruBS
was think of buying the karizma but this new Pulsar 220 has made me change my decision.
for the same price range the karizma doesn’t even offer tubeless tyres. hero honda needs to get out of sticker jobs.
have already booked a BLACK Pulsar 220 dtsi. will send the ownership experience once I get the bike
the new Pulsar 220 ROCKS. bravo bajaj, way to go
Better go for Yamaha fzs-16 because in pulsar performance is there but it will lose tat after 3-6 months.
If there are giving these features for low price means think about the quality of the Parts that is Packed up in tat bike.
But in Yamaha the engine and performance is very very good and no need to tell about their quality of the bike ….
so go for fzs-16
all said and done….. if you think bajaj is giving low quality parts for this price then why cant it be true for the other way round where yamaha is looting you for giving you the same quality as the pulsar… built and quality wise pulsar is no less than yamaha…..
guyzzz! d pulsar 220dtsfi is actually d fastest.
i had a test drive of it nd mind u it has an awsum acceleration.
d yamaha bikes r no way near to it. it has got a gr8 control nd superb brakes.
d bike cn b xtended to a speed of 140 wich is outstanding for indian conditions a faster bike dan dis might b launched ahead but cannot b cheaper dan dis macho bike
so go for it
it roxxx!
well done bajaj i am proud of u
info given by u is very gud n upto da mark …i have added ur site as a bookmark.,..keep it up…
FZ 16 is not so good of course quality is good but yamaha is fooling people by charging a hefty price for some graphics apache 180 or pulsar 180 with more feutures cost much less and i think hunk is better than FZ in every thing except may be looks
Great work done by bajaj, Bet you Guys, shortly n surely you’ll see the new pulsar 220DTSi smokin the R15. . . . . A new performance king has born. . . . Cheers to Bajaj for their superb work. . . . .
ohhhhhhhhhhhh what byke yaaaaaaaaa
which bike shud i go for guys….. plzzz….. guide me….yamaha fazor or p220
Hi guys, pulsar has lost its sheen in the market. This time pulsar 220 is available for 70k but what if next year they slash 10k again? Bajaj is cheating us so wake up guys. If any of you are planning to buy this bike then I would suggest you to buy yamaha fz-s or new fazer. Now the quality of yamaha bikes are excellent, engine’s are very smooth & refined, the performance is adequate as well. As far as ride & handling is concerned, fz, fazer & R15 remain in a league of its own that other bikes doesn’t even come close to. Also if you want more out of fz, fazer & R15 then you can install yamaha’s new performance kits. I am a proud owner of blue R15 which I bought on august last year after which I purchased Yamaha FZ-S silver/red immediately after its launch. Last week I booked an Yamaha Fazer orange & that shows how much I am satisfed with this brand!
Brother i c u r a huge yamaha fan…….. but u just wasted 2.5 lakhs on R15 + FZ + Fazor………
U shud have taken NINJA (3Lakhs) now after throwing away these bikes……..since clearly finance does not seem to be a problem 4 u…….;)
ow and one more thing…. prices came down cuz the p220 is now using a carburettor instead of fuel injection …..and not just any carburettor but the largest 1 indian bikes have ever seen….. hence power is up by 1 bhp……fazer/FZ and R15 are fine but they r simply not value 4 mony!!! …….. and i will be happy if p220 price came down 10 k still cuz it will then kill all fazer n FZ sales:)
Hi, i recently completed 522 Km on my new Pulsar 220 DTS-i (Blue). The problem i found is with starting it in the early morning just like Pulsar 200 nd the auto choke feature doesn’t seems like providing any assistance either. This bike is a bit bulky nd feels heavy in city traffic so if you ride a lot in the city then plz avoid 220. Refinement is nowhere close to the offerings of honda, hero honda nd yamaha. If speed is everything for you then only buy 220!
shekar stop lying around on blogs like this,ur dad is some tata_birla or wat?r 15,den an fz n now u even hav an fazer?
f*** off man!!!
wat do u do wid so many bikes?
neways to the other readers let me explain…
the new pulsar 220 dts-si,which stands for DIGITAL TWIN SPARK SWIRL INDUCTION,comes with an 32 venturi carb. which is the biggest carb. till date in indian bike market,replacing the fuel injection kit.
it provides the bike with a whopping 21 ps power at 8000 rpm,soft compound tubeless tyres,all black theme and lots more!
this bike is value for money…..
remember frnds pulsar was the first indian performance bike n till date has ruled d market….
best bike in terms of stuntin n free bikin….
its d big DADDY…
go 4 it!
Well I dont buy the last comment kept by anuj, first of all let me correct you.. DTS-i mean Digital Twin Spark Ignition only. When R15 was launched, it broke the boasting of Pulsar claiming to be the fastest. It took a toss when R15 managed to beat it even with smaller CC’s (eminent from the youtube video)… So in order to remain in competition, the only way they could beat R15 was by slashing the price and fool the indians by not keeping so many tech stuffs in its bike.. They think that only people are concern about is price and not technology.
Bajaj bikes are good too.. they have got a very good indigenous but what always backed me from buying Bajaj product was mainly due to quality and refinement… which lacks a lot.. The engine is not at all smooth.
Well regarding the comments sent by shekhar.. lucky guy.. at least you get to taste every new babes on the line… sometimes one is born lucky.. if their father is some millionaire.
I agree with shekhar sinha, pulsar 220 is a crap n so is its qlty. I own a fz16 n its awesome yamaha simply rocks!
Dear Anuj,
I am an owner of mobile store & am not dependent on my parents for anything. I buy things which I like & nobody has the rights to interfere in it. The only reason why people are going ga-ga about new 220 is because of its higher power output & low price tag. But still the quality is not upto to the mark, aftersales service of bajaj is pathetic & the main problem with pulsar is that its performance drops after 3-4 months from the date of purchase. Latest Yamaha bikes in India are of very high quality, its far more reliable & comes backed with excellent aftersales support. You might be still thinking that pulsar is the best but only time will tell the truth so just wait & watch!
Regards,
Shekhar Sinha.
very true…….the perfrmance does come down……..n yes yamaha has top notch quality….if its speed & only speed that u want at cheap price go for P220 or tvs apache bikes…….
People believe it, I took a test drive in Adyar PBC and man tell you the posture on the bike is great and the bike feels smooth and i have booked Red, will get it in a week
Hi! After reading all the comments now i am stepping back from taking p220 bcz of its quality and refinement….but i am going to buy my first bike and need a really good bike with good performance and looks….and i am confuseed with pulsar 220 or karizma……. can any one plz help me to decide…
i have p220 n my friend has ZMR…… Hes Simply crying bcuz he paid 23K more than me to buy slightly upgraded 30 yr old junk technology …… n ZMR is definitely not a performer…. if u want performance then the numbers speak 4 themselves …… if you are not sure of the quality and refinement then rush to your nearest Bajaj probiking center …. test urself and then believe….. dont simply change your mind reading blogs….njoi
Hi Sharath,
Ignore P220, if you are willing to buy ZMA then it will be wise to wait a bit coz an all new ZMA will launch on Sept 09. If you don’t wanna wait then go for the new Fazer, I agree that it has less power then ZMA & P220 but overall an excellent machine!
Hi Sharath, I forgot to tell you one thing! The new ZMA will possess a new front fairing & fuel Injection System but the power output & top speed will remain the same. As far as the new fazer is concerned, I’d just say that you go to your nearest yamaha showroom & take a test drive.
Dear All,
There is no point in extreme comments about any motorcycle. I have owned Yamaha RX 100, Suzuki Shaolin, Yamaha RD 350 and currently own Pulsar 180 DTSi – Version1 from last 5 years. So I feel I know few things about performance bikes.
I tried out P200, P220 and R15. For typical city traffic, it is the Pulsar that is better. R15 has quality etc is true but it is not for everyone. It is more track oriented and hence it has better handling and top end performance rather than low and mid range performance or plush ride quality (new Pulsars – 150/180/220 – all provide really good ride quality – which is what you want while going to office every day and coming back with sufficient zip to break away from slow moving traffic!) They have sufficiently good handling. I don’t personally like P220′s looks but what the heck, it is hell of a deal at that price.
Tell me frankly – how many of even Yamaha R15 riders are going to ride those bikes forever? If anyway you are aiming at using a bike for 5-6 years and then move on to higher category, go for P220!
Down the line, you will be earning more and superior bikes will be available at 2-3 lakh price band and may be you can buy those! Till then P220 is the only bike that can quench your performance thirst at reasonable prices and relatively low maintenance in first few years.
If you are too much particular about performance and don’t mind money and effort spent on your beloved bike, then simply throw away ideas of buying any of today’s modern bikes!
Buy a Yamaha RD-350 from a good source, spend some money to customize it to suit yourself (disc brakes, suspension changes, porting, racing exhausts etc) and what you will get is the MOST AWSOME BIKE INDIA HAD SO FAR (unless you are rich enough to buy Suzuki Hayabusa in which case you would not be reading all these comments in first place!)
A well restored customized RD-350 will make any new bike including R-15 or P220 feel like a bicycle. Since it is not a practical thing to do but requires too much patience, effort and money (I owned one and know it even though I loved the bike more than Devdas loved Paro!) P220 is golden mean of performance/value/maintainability
Regards,
Jeevan
Every one is talking about quality but how can u prove yamaha is providing good quality?? Bajaj has reduced price by 12k cause it remove FI not because of remaining in competition. Pulsar220 is a great performance bike and i hv booked it. Don’t believe on the sayings of the people just test it and but. Every person will try to keep his bike on best among others!!!!
Hi Shekhar Sinha,thank for your precious advice and i ll take test drive of fazer as you said and then decide. Once again thanks da..
hi guys..1stly i booked a fazer bt i thnk that it is very small n very pricey so i am cancelling the deal..
i am planning to buy my 1st bike bt i m confused should i take p220 dtsi or nt because i hv heard a lot about pulsar’s unreliability..plz help and dnt try to put your bike in 1st place
Hi Naman, You can buy the New Tvs Apache 180. Just go & take a test drive. You can write to me at snazees@gmail.com if you have any more queries.
can anyone tell me the mileage that the new pulsur 220 dtsi offers???
35 – 40 on an average……… 35-37 if u r always in full revs n burning the road… sum tyms 44 + on long hiway drives…….. really depends how u use the throttle…:):)
Jeevan, you the man who said it right. if ya’ll got money, get urself an RD-350 ht and restore it, even a stock rd is scary and smokes any indian performance bikes. so a ported rd will be super scary! i mean, by the time an r15 or 200 reaches a 100kph the STOCK rd reaches 150kph! buying an rd 350 is not practical and is not easy on the pocket to maintain. but if you got passion and knows how to take care of a great bike and has money, then there aint anything better than an rd 350 in india.
and about this 220, if you are speed maniac and encounters a lot of city traffic, then 220 is the bike for you. if you like revving the arse off and knows how to ride in the power band, then r15 is the best. if you have unlimited money(like shekhar):),loves the 2 stroke smell and vibes and knows a good yamaha mech(like me), then rd 350 is the bike for you and its got the traits of above mentioned bikes.
i hope this doesnt hurts anybodies feelings, if it does then sorry!
Guys,
all said n done….have read a lotta reviews……I have hear a lotta issues with Pulsar parts being of cheap quality and overall build quality of deteriorating..and that aspect cannot be explained in any review as the bike is too fresh to show any slack…….so anyone whos got P220 2k9 …please grace this discussion…. Just help me choose between RTR, P200 or P220(2k9)? and somehow Yamaha doesnt impress!
Dear bike lovers,
First time blogging.To begin with i was riding a passion plus for almost 4 years and i thought its enough.I was on the look out for a bike and almost finalized CBZ extreme.But then there came the BLACK BEAUTY P220.First looks impressed me a lot and bike looks itself speaks volumes.
1)Digital console.
2)Front and back discs
3)Auto choke
4)Indicator cancellation
5)Twin head lights etc etc
6)Tubeless tyres
Guys see stunner is charging 73k for 125cc.Pulsar with all its features for 79845 on road in chennai….Unbelievable.
Ok When u compare itself with FZ/FAZER…Do you know how many yamaha showroom has convenient facilities and service center facilities ????
The pity thing is i got to see the fazer in a godown in ekkaduthangal showroom,chennai.No good servicing equipments.Keep in mind that your bike needs special care when u spend this much..
Go to Probiking showroom and worldclass care for your bikes.Warranty for your entire bike for 3 yrs…
When you really take the performance into account pulsar really has refined all the major issues in 220 fi and has given us a superior product.
When i compare with HH apart from extreme and ZMA nothing interesting.Extreme still is a sticker upgrade.ZMA outdated.I cant wait for ZMA fi as it will cost same as R15.So after having all analysis booked my black pulsar 220 today.
Total cost – 79845 Onroad
350 Price for supporting document
200 Smart card RC book
80395 Total price on road
Booked my bike today and will get to touch the beast in 3 to 4 days. Will keep u updated on the initial riding experience.
i lik p200&220……nw i brought a new p220 dtsi just Rs;82800/-on da road
Hi Friends,
Its accepted that every company produces competitive products, Yamaha, Bajaj, TVS etc, and youth is very much interested in learning about the bikes through websites and go for the Fastest one.
I have an R15 and raced with many Pulsar/Apache’s in Chennai but recently I happen to be an audience of such a race
Last week when I was going to office in my Cab I saw a Pulsar 220, Yamaha FZ and an Apache Racing on a less traffic road. I was very very curious to see who wins the race, You know what happened.
All the three guys was driving very rash and which made a Girl on a Scooty pep to loose her balance and fall down, ending up in a fracture, Who was completely innocent. No body will race in their bike if they could have seen Blood oozing out of her pale skin.
But our Racers Pulsar, Apache, FZ are still in their competition and I dont know what happen to them.
KEEP SOMETHING IN MIND THAT ROAD IS NOT A RACE TRACK AND YOU ARE NOT COMPETEING WITH EACHOTHER BUT MERELY FIGHTING WITH MACHINES.
I may sound silly or granny but please guys make sure that you dont give trouble to anyone at road, Coz a person who buys a R15 or a Pulsar 220 will be a very good rider and can handle the bike at any conditions but think about the beginners.
pulsar 220 seems to drop performance after months from the purchase….it doesnt prove engine quality like the honda and yamaha…..unicorn or r15 doesnt seems to drop the punch or smoothness even after a year…i would suggest to go for yamaha !!!!!!!!
Buddies, and especially all those non pulsar owners or would be buyers,just face the fact that Bajaj’s Flagship product 220 is just the best bike as of todays date.Its just too good to be beaten.People talking about FZee’s. Well..The very first impression of an Fzee rider is like a cheapster. believe me guys.if u wana know what i mean to say then take ur fzees and go around cruising in a city(city like mumbai) and just ask ur pillion to make a note of how many heads u have been able to turn on to have a second look at u or in all probability ur Bike.step 2. Try to get hold of the BEAST PULSAR 220 and do the same.U’ll see the difference.lots of head turning round to see whos the coolster..
This experiment was for all those look conscious guys.
For performance bikers.u can only know it when u ride it.
it is just hell of a fast machine.within seconds u’ll start feeling the power.but ..ofcourse, u need to be male enough to control this beast.
I am not a pulsar 220 owner.I own the latest pulsar 180 i had to settle it for 180 coz of my budget.But even with new pulsar 180 i manage to turn quite a few head towards me.
i agree Fazer, R15 are betters options for yamaha lovers.But they would only give u the satisfaction of looks and not performance.and for the new karizma zma launched today…!
its pathetic…..!These guys have almost killed Karizma..!
which actually ruled the market before p220′s..
Conclusion..
P220 is the best…….!
so for those who are thinking to buy a bike..just go for 220.
Its the best…!
or else
mess with the best and die like the rest… haha..!
“I m the man “
karizma pgmfi rocks man……..
Hi Everyone,
I suppose there was bike called the Yamaha RD 350 25 years ago which holds the record as the Fastest Indian Production Bike.
But I dont know how come they can advertise Fastest Indian without breaking the Top Speed.
Honestly thats a Cool Marketing strategy from Bajaj, Its true today its the Fastest Production Bike, But the same was P220 DTS-FI when it was released there was no Indian Bike to catch up with the P220 DTS-FI. Can anyone say why the bike sales in not even One Tenth of a Karizma????????????
After all speed isn’t everything – if it was, our cars wouldn’t have doors, roofs, stereos or air-conditioning.
I feel that constantly updating a bike can bring new customers but what about the Existing Customers???
I think that this time the Karizma has again come back fighting with this ZMR.Of Course not the Fastest Indian but the FITTEST INDIAN and lets see Who wins.
I own a R15 and I am Happy with it. I am not against Bajaj coz the Pulsar 200 was my dream bike but I don’t want myself to be outdated.
U shud i go for 220 realy
The true Advantage ans Disadvantages of P220 are
Advantages,
Stock Bike can outperform any other Indian bike
Fancy Head light,split seats,Superb Exhaust,Soft rubber,Rear Disc.
Black Treatment looks far better than the ugly P220 DTSFI
Seems to provide more value for money, Cheapest High Performance Bike.
Disadvantages
2 Years Max for the engine refinement.(A 2 Yr old P220 DTSFI will sound completely awkward today)
Mileage,
P200=>35Kmpl (>80Kmph)
P220DTSFI=30 to 35 Kmpl (Since It has FI Engine)
New P220 Has a 32 Venturi Carb, Much Bigger than P200, So sure that the Bike is Power Hungry, My friend here at my Office reported Bajaj that the bike runs less than 30 Kmpl.
3) Vibrations after 7000RPM
So Please understand your need and select the bike accordingly.
i own a pulsar 220 2k9 and i m fully satisfied with every bit of it, its price is droped due to the removal of fuel injector, engine control unit, fuel pump. Bajaj has not droped the quality dudes, grow up appritiate the fastest indian.
I am getting a bike this weekend….am sure apache rtr 180 is ahead of pulsar 180 n i didnt lyk yamaha much so i finalised apache n now after ur review of pulsar 220…same price but much better performance has made me hesitate. I cant decide b/w apache and pulsar 220…help me please. n its urgent…
hiii every1
m new on this site…
m going byk hv my first byk…
earlier i finalized yamaha fz, bt i took a test ride of p220, its realy awesome guyz, fz cnt even touch p220 in performance, so finaly m goin 2 book grey p220…
HEY BYK EXPERTS, i want ur suggestion for my this decions m goin rite or wrong……?
n smbdy plz tel me abt its mileage also………
hi guys!
i am planning to buy the new pulsar 220… is it the right decision???
its average is 30 if u ride it rash, and 35 if u ride it well.
Hi all ,
I have pulsar 220 DTSI done 1800Kms and engine cylinder head gasket started leaking.
it seems gasket doesn’t cover under warranty .
quality is still an issue with bajaj .
hi guys,
i am antony , i am a bike lover thats my passion too….
dont belive anythinks, because some people like pulsar, yamaha, herohonda & etc. iam a pulsar lover that bike i using for [6 years] the solid bike never came in other company,but what i say dont bye pulsar new modul which came with digital meter. because the pulsar get vibrate in the back seat, seat was hard, for few month bike condition will be ok after u will hate riding the bike ,coming to the tyre poor,totaly pulsar digital console model was flop. any time u want to bye bike just go for test ride,while makeing test ride u no which is good & bad u can make desion dont go for others opinion. make ur heart feel in the riding…………
My comment about Pulsar will never change….what ever I am going to say now is somthing I have said thousand times and I am sick of this now….
“These Bajaj guys improve the clutch and gearbox in every release and reviewers say that its the slickest of all pulsars till date”
Reviewers = Experts as well as people like the one who have written this review for no use!!!!!!
Will there be a time when Pulsar is gonna get real slick gearbor and start improving some thing else in the bike….
I love India but not for this kind of S***, My Favorite is Truely YAMAHA……………………….
Cheers Guys
– Satish Kumar
when this bike (p220) come to Indonesia… I’m waiting for this
Hi All,
This is saurabh from delhi. I have been driving pulsar 150 for last 4.5 years and it has never let me down. I also own hyundai I20 car but i prefer going to office by bike due to heavy traffic in city. My bike has done more than 50000km and it still going great.
Now I feel to change my bike. I like new P220 and yamaha fz. I am confused between the two. Average is not my concerned, if i get around 35, then its ok for me. The concerned is about the power & performance in city. I have trust on Bajaj as I am having pulsar 150 from long time but dont know about the fazer. I like fazer over all but cost and power undoubtedly attracts me towards P220. I am bit confused. I have also seen new karizma and it didnt impressed me at all. I loved the old one.
Please advice as i am planning to replace my bike within a month or so.
Regards,
Saurabh
pls mail me at saurabh_srivastava28@yahoo.com if anyone is having new P220 and can give me the genuine feedback………
Also my no. is 9717005640. anyone from delhi who is having new pulsar 220 pls contact me……… and give me ur honest feedback.
Regards,
Saurabh
Guys is there any news abt cosmetic changes to d P220???? coz even i wanna upgrade my UG1 pulsar (5yrs old) Since i’m a pulsar lover n owner wanna Go for pulsar only purely for its performance….
Nw my concern s BAJAJ is mean they jus use al d bits tits of 220 in its younger sibblings lik 180, 200, 150 also.
So is there any news from bajaj to make d fastest indian much diffrentiate from its smaller sibblings….
I bought a new p220 a fortnight back.. its definately got sum awesum power in it wen compared to karizma R and ZMR…
it can easily go up to 130-135km/hr…
AWESOME!!
I have already smoked a pulsar 220cc DTS-FI, a karizma, a fz-16 and a r15 with my pulsar 180cc in street racing.. Obviously the pulsar 220cc would live upto its name…”THE FASTEST INDIAN”
Dear Bikers,
I am not sure how many people will speed the Pulsar 220 DTSi @ 140 Km/H in India considering its road condition & for how long. I think its main benefit that the people will appreciate is its power & pickup coupled with its safety features (Soft compound rubber tiers, dual disk breaks & good sock absorber) which are available at a affordable price.
And every one loves a good looking bike with all black wheel, engine, swing-arm and forks.
Price, is what I think is the primary reason that forced Bajaj to dump DTS-FI & came out with DTSi. I bet Bajaj can work hard to come out with bikes that would outperform any Yahama & Honda Bikes. But the bigger challenge is to keep the cost under control so that at the end of the day it sells & gives Bajaj the worth or Manufacturing & R&D cost…!
Karizma ZMR & R15 are good but I think I will settle with Pulsar 220 DTSi & save a lot of money
what happen with this p220dtsi it has no pickup power like in p220fi n rear brake is not working even like drum brake.i went showroom n try this p220dtsi it is ashame a of power to the pulsar where is the power of pulsar
Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTSi,not powerful than P220Fi!
hi i bought pulsar220 on dhanterash(15th oct)and i am a bit disappointed from the bikes performance,i bought pulsar 220 for its rear disc and mileage and both proved to be a failure because the rear disc has progressive concept i.e. it wont work till the front disc is applied and even when it is applied it doesnt apply that much pressure so,having used drum brakes i would say drum brakes would be a better option with front disc and about the mileage my bike even after the 1st servicing the bike gives me a mileage of 30km/ltr which is very low as officially they have said it would give 55km/ltr.
hi guys why p220 dtsi rear brake is not working even it can’t be slow down the bike what should i have to do with this rear brake?n whats about pick power is it better than p220fi?i don’t think so whats about u all guys???????????????
i bought dis pulsar 220 on october 21 2009, frm th first day th back disc is nt properly working nd der is a sound when i apply break, the started had a complaint, th viser is cmpletly vibrating, evrithing mak me mad, next day i went 2 th showrom wth ma complaints, but they cnt solve ma complaints, nd on 30 october i dne ma first service, they sove th proplems of starter and viser and disc, but on th day aftr servicing, again the back disc is not properly working nd it is making noice, i wnt to th showroom and shout at them, the ass service manager, says dat they dnt no watz th exat problem wth the disc
im gtng mad
i bouught the byke from ROYL BAJAN, kodimatha,kottayam, KERALA
the servicing id verry bad nd nw ma milage is only 24, wat should i do?
Guys those who u al r teling about thequality ofp220 that it makes noise after a year or so..so that is totally dependend on the maintaing your bike…the 1st 1000kms r very inp 4 ur bike…if u maintain that companies saying..guranty u will geta good feed bacj as ur bikes engine opens….
bhai haatti paal rahe ho to usse maintain bhi to karna aana chahiyee.. so 1st learn to maintain ur bikess n than comments
HI guys,
I hav A black pulsar 220 bougth 2 months ago .
ADVANTAGES:
1.less price
2.hi perfomance
3.good looking
4.easy service
5.low cost spare parts.
DISADVANTAGES:
1. BAD MILEGE (24 kmpl)
2.bad quality parts.
3.i hav done around 2000 kms and pic up was reduced
r15 cannot beat pulsar at the top speed as it recorded in the road test
hi guys i have a pulsar 220 which i brought in september 4 2009.
But seriously i am not satisfied with the bike. i had pular 150 and had been using it for 3 years then i selled it and brought pular 220.
the major issues of the bike is with the one way cluch ( starting problem) second issue is with the rear disk. the rear disk pad is coming in contact with the rear disk and it often makes annoying noise and reduces the speed of the bike.
I maintain my bike and have done my second servicing with 2400km on the meter but till now the problem with my rear disk is not solved. i have already complaned many times, the mechanic ajust the rear disk and it function ok for few days then after that the problem again starts.
pulsar 220 2009edition is good for rich peoples who dont want mileage and have enough money to waste in purchasing petrol.
I have a Pulsar 220 DTSi for 4 months now. Since then I have smoked each and every R15, Karizma ZMR, Apache 180 & Karizma R I have met on the roads. Nothing comes close to this beast.I touched 148 Km/h on speedo (138+ real speed). I can assure you that it can go even further (may be 142+ real).R15 is good on papers, but in real conditions it can’t even come close to P220 DTSi.Still it is more that 25K costlier than P220 DTSi. What a shame.
Hey guys first I thought of getting a p220, but when R15 was launched i just had a test drive and it was really amazing. Pls dnt go for it. R15 is best in everything except for money. Pls dnt think of money. It is worth every paise u spend for it. P220 doesn’t have quality and even engine will lead to problem in 2 yrs. I hav touched 145km/hr with my R15 and P220 speedometer is not the real one. I am sure tat the top speed of P220 is not more than 135km/hr and it s nothing in front of R15. R15 simply rocks….. So go for it or u can go for Fazer. Cheers..
Dear Mohamed, please check the speedo of the R15 you rode.The top whack of R15 is 130 (true speed).No dought, its a good bike (for a 150cc).But Don’t compare it to P220 DTSi, its a monster.It eats R15s for breakfast.
Now, for the quality,R15′s quality is very good, so has the pulsar.I have a P180 DTSi (UG2) for 4 years now.I bought it for 66K & still now, I make a roast of R15 (which is 105K) on the city roads.R15s only place is at the track, not on the road.Go, & play with 150cc kids.P220 is the big daddy of Indian roads.
As I said earlier, I have a P220 DTSi.Many people are saying that, they are getting millage of around 24.I am getting around 36 – 45 Km/l. I can give you some tips.
1>Please, make sure, you drive in 5th gear as much as
possible.
2>Please, don’t apply too much clutch.
3>Please, don’t apply harsh brakes.
4>Please, try to drive between, 40 – 60 Km/h in 5th gear.
5>Please, maintain your bike regularly.(every 2 months).
6>Please, change the engine oil regularly.(every 2000 Km).
7>Please, make sure the tyres have right pressure.(28 front &
30 rear & 32 rear with a pillion).
Hope this will improve your millage.cheers….
Guys,everybody who were saying that “Bajaj does not make quality products” listen:-
I had a Kawasaki-Bajaj 4S champion (100cc) for 12 years.
I still have a P180 DTSi (UG2) for 4 years now.
I bought a P220 DTSi on July 2009.
All are in perfect condition.Just timely maintanance can make your bike everlasting. It doesn’t change for any brand.
As for the maintanance, Bajaj spair parts are cheap.
Just think of the Front disc pads of Karizma, which is a whooping Rs.2200 where you can buy a pad set for pulsars for a merely Rs.200.
Its simple, if you want your bike to run for 10+ years, just timely maintain it.whatever the brand may be.
well r15 is good…bt it has made bajajp220 on same….people r comparing 220cc with 150cc…p220 is little bit power ful in pic up bt not in topspeed…bajaj u should n must be in same with ur 220…ur 220 should be far much better than 150cc R15 to keep peoplemouth close.i ve 1 question for bajaj..hav u have ability 2 build bike of 150cc as yamaha do???????????shocked naaa…dnt tell me u need help fr kawasaki ha ha ha.poor indains poor bikes
Yamaha R15 is 150 cc, so why are you people crying. They are charging a hell lot more than a 250 cc made in India. Bajaj is giving a true 140+ km/h bike for as little as 80k. So go cry to your mom (yamaha) to make a bike of true 140+ km/h bike for less than that. Bajaj can make bikes two times better than Yamaha can offer at the same price.Bajaj is giving every body a fare chance to ride a performance bike,not like Yamaha who are giving a 150 cc bike for the price of a 250 cc bike which only marginally performs better than an Indian 150 cc bike.1 qestion for Yamaha..hav u have ability 2 build bike of 220cc as Bajaj do for a price like Bajaj gives???????????Shocked naa….don’t tell me you need more than 2 lacs to make a 200cc bike+.Poor thing, they only make bikes for son’s of rich people.I don’t know Mr.Speed breaker, If you are an Indian or not but you are one of the people who don’t know what is value for money. And If India is poor, then why is Yamaha coming to India for selling their bikes.They also know that India is the one of the biggest markets.If Inida is poor, why don’t they go & sell their bikes elsewhere.
We will not compare a 150 cc bike with a 220 cc bike,if the price is same as other 150 cc bikes.If they are taking money much more than an Indian 220 CC bike then why not.Make Yamaha sell R15 for less than 70K, then we will not compare them.Yamaha is charging Rs.105K for a R15 & when it looses to a Rs.80K bike, then you are crying that it is 150cc. what a shame.
Indian bikes = better performance, better millage & less Price.
Yamaha = less performance, less millage & huge price.
Indian bikes are Value for Money.
Yamaha bikes are just show off.
R15 is a sports bike & priced at 105K+ & still looses to a Bike which is 25K cheaper.
They cheat people.They Put a R15 Fairing on a FZ & named them Fazer.How funny.What is more funny, it is a 150 cc bike which drinks 1 litre of petrol for a mere 25-30 Km & is prised Rs.84K. How bizzare.
Yamaha R15 is a really good bike. But as it is priced at Rs.105K
then it should beat a bike which is 25K cheaper.But it can’t.
On the other hand P220 DTSi is Rs.80K & it eats R15, which is 25K costlier.
If you can beat a bike which is 25K costlier, than who cares about the engine size.
i laugh at pple who compare 150 segmnet bikes wid 220, whether it b a fz16, fazer, r15. its foolishness to pay 105k (R15)for a 150cc bike, the only looks is d r1 feering that it has an d sitting posture, apart frm that d rear tyre sucks, it looks just like a hero honda splendor when u see d rear tyre.
i dont mind going over fz16 or fazer rather than a p150, yamaha is capturing p150 market, no doubt d performance of yamaha 150 segment is much better now.
think if yamaha can giv a sexy rear tyre for fazer an fz then y not in r15, thats so coz d cost of r15 wud jump up more.
even a karizma dont hav a 2 piece handle for them but pulsar manages to hav such handles. an if u saying pulsar giving cheaper parts for budget of 80k then its obvious coz its a local company its rate has to b less.
b clear wid wat type of bike u looking at. if u want power an speed u hav to get into high segment an start comparing among those bikes, if u looking for balanced avg an power then get comparing in 150cc.
d only comparison for p220 is wid karizma.
i hav tested 220 an its just d baap on indian roads.
Yesterday, I saw a Karizma ZMR (black) at the Showroom.
It is looking nice.The white 1 shown all over the net is looking really bakwaas….It is looking like a plastic toy.
I looked at the black 1 at the showroom & felt like this colour should have been shown all over.Now ZMR is priced at Rs.104K & all it is offering is a copy of bits & pieces from different models already in India.Nothing new in performance.It is still very under-powered (223 CC you see..) & I don’t think it can increase Karizma’s age old bad millage.Its torque is the same (18.35 NM) & 17.6 BHP (0.7 BHP increase) and they have made it 9 Kg heavier. So, no increase in pic-up & no increase in top speed.It just looks good with the full fairing & you have to pay Rs.24 K extra for it & the Fi which can’t help it to race with a much smaller bike (R15) or even come 100 Meters close to P220 DTSi.So sad you are paying Rs.24K extra only for the plastic fairing to look like a R15.Fi is just there to make up for the weight gain of the bike.The old Karizma R was a good bike for drag,track race,Stunts & Tours.But this new ZMR is only good for Touring (but behind a R15 & far behind a P220) on long roads.
Today I met with a guy on Karizma ZMR on a traffic signal.
After that signal, ther was about 2 kms of freeway with minimum traffic.We both were wearing helmets & couldn’t see each other’s faces. but we understood that it is a drag scenario:
The signal flashed green & we took off:
My P220 DTSi – 1st gear – 35 Km/h, 2nd gear – 70 Km/h, 3rd gear – 105 km/h, 4th gear – 132 km/h, 5th gear – 140 km/h and it was accelerating then also, but the road ended & I stopped. I took my helmet off & saw that he was at least 300 feets behind me.
He stopped the bike & told me that he has run more than 1500 km/h before this & now he will sell it.I asked him why? he told me that he owned a karizma R (top speed 126 km/h) before & was regularly smoked by P220 & R15. So he bought this one for a whoophing 108K thinking that it is the costliest and can beat both of them.But what a shame, its top speed is even less than Karizma R (122 Km/h).
edit: 1500 km not 1500km/h
The Karizma ZMR added Fi like the P220 DTSFi.
The Karizma ZMR added full fairing like the R15 & increase 9 Kg.
The Karizma ZMR added Rs.25000
The Karizma ZMR forgot to increase the power like the above two.
For Rs.25000 more,
you get bla bla bla……
but not increased performance.
Final word:
The Karizma R was the 3rd best bike in performance.
The Karizma ZMR is the 5th best bike in performance.
(apache 180 & Pulsar 180 got slightly ahead)
But now it is the COSTLIEST bike in India.
WHO WILL BUY THEM????when 4 other bikes with better performance & features are available at lower prices.
That’s why after 1 month I saw only 1 Karizma ZMR on the road.
Hero Honda were Cought napping this time. They have to do something about it or else they will only be selling 100 cc bikes in the future.
i want to buy a pulsar220dtsfi but in our country pulsar220 is void. a few days ago i saw a pulsar220 in my college. i contact the owner of the byke to know that how he got the licence for his byke. he gave me some suggestion to buy a pulsar byke and gave me a adress to by a byke. now i want to know what is different between pulsar150 pulsar 200 or pulsar 220
Hey Sourav Let me know have you seen pulsar220 or suzuki hayabusa!!!
@sourav the difference is 150cc, 200cc, 220cc engines.
you live in which country?
220 DTS-i only have more power and low price but as per quality is concern yamaha and hero honda are far much better than bajaj 220 dtsi. The bajaj’s older version of Pulsar dts-i was and is still my favourite one.
My dear Basant,If u r a biker then what do u need from a premium bike other than power and low price (Value for money).Who is going to ride a premium bike more than 3 years? After 3 years better bikes will come. the persons who use mopeds (less than 150cc) are the only people who will ride their bikes for more than 3 years.You are talking like a commuter.
The older version of pulsar 220 can’t even compete with a puny R15 with 150cc engine.What a shame.You are talking about hero honda, whose Flagship bike of 223cc engine (Karizma ZMR) gives out only 17.6 BHP of power for a hefty 105K & can’t even compete with Pulsar 180 & 200 and apache 160 & 180 , forget about R15 & P220 DTSi.Hero honda sucks.It is only good in making mopeds like splenders , Passion etc.
I have a pulsar 220 Dts-i and i drove almost every new bike. people say that fz and the kind have very good quality, and i dont think its possible to say that unless at least 2 years pass by. fz and fazer are tourers and so they dont have the racing postures and no crash guard makes it really vulnerable to damage. Fz is said to have problems with its electric start (Two of my friends had the same problem). if you have money go for R15 (1,07,500 Rs on road in kerala) , if what you want is just looks and smooth riding go for fazer (79,500 Rs on road in kerala) or Fz (72,000 Rs on road in kerala) , if you want power go for pulsar 220 DTSi(79,000 Rs on road in kerala) ,dont buy karizma (no value for money). if you are on a budget and want the power then apache RTR 180 (72,000 Rs on road in kerala) no doubt.
Guys i recently bought a p220dtsi. . .Its a good bike and its giving me a mileage of 42km/l. .Its a good value for money bike. . .!!!
Dear Frnds,
I am working as a tech engineer n till 2010 April, i owned my hero honda splendor, tis may i booked n brought home a blue 220 Dtsi F, the bike gives stunning perfomance, nice sound, stylish headlamps n most of all super braking, its alloys r mag, n 45km mileage it gives, all the eyes on road wil be on it, it roars as a lion in traffic. most fascinating in highways it overtakes faster than we think, it wont let us down 4 sure, n all 4 an onroad price of 84,198rs, it has power, mileage n 145 kmph speed (claimed) which makes it the Fastest indian in this single cylinder segment.
I Drag raced my 220 dtsi F, with cousin’s R15, friends apache rtr 180, n Bro’s Thunderbird, i only raced upto 80km as ma bike has not yet to 1st service, n starting itself to 75kmph, i was in vry front, in 76 or 77 r15 overtook bt it was my fault in gearing, aftr a few sec, finally i still got the lead.
hey can some body suggest which is best in pulsar 220cc and yamaha fazer 150cc
Dear Bro, i was also confused between Fazer n 220, bt i tuk 220 F, b’coz fazer is not even built 2 compare with 220 F, the 220 has 45-55 kmpl, mileage, tubeless tyres, 3 piece handle, bright headlamps, 21 bhp power aircooled, technological advance, Bharat stage 4 compliant, gud sound of racin bikes, top speed 144/- claimed, India’s top single cylinder bike, lots more auto choke, oil cooler, adrenaline rush, has a superb look n quality, my 220 F now 3 weeks old its superb perfomance n stable in 3 digit speeds, also rear discs powerful, which wen compared to Fazer, Fazer is such a waste. Its true. Go for it, u wil be knoted bcoz of 220 F, my word, it wil take u flying in roads with a lion’s roar.
Hi guys u should really pick a bike according to your use.if u want speed click on P220.If u want some handling and perfromance in the city then go on FZ.If u want look go for R15.If u consider speed with milage then go for apache RTR it gives nearly 45km. but if u want everything then wait a few months for the forthcoming Apache RTR 220.it gives u all the pleasure
P220 Dtsi ROCKS!!!!!
Anywhere a Bajaj product is tested, that blog is certain to get a million views and a billion comments. What is common is the number of Yamaha and Honda worshipers who know nothing about what biking really is.
The equation is pretty straight
Highway runs, city rides and a few occasional cornering rides: 220 DTS-i
Track, Track and only Track: R15
City runs, impressing girls and perverts (purely due to the smallish pillion seat): FZ
The biggest problem with Bajaj is that they always keep replacing their best sellers instead of adding to their lineups. They upset a several million people with their decision to discontinue the Pulsar 200. Now when they introduced the carb version, they discontinued their FI version. When Hero Honda introduced The Karizma ZMR they still didn’t discontinue their Karizma R. Why is Bajaj doing this. Also Bajaj people are very tight lipped when it comes to letting out information about future models. Before I bought a bike I made several attempts to know from Bajaj if they ever had plans of relaunching the Pulsar 200. They never gave a proper answer. They didn’t relaunch it but however launched a version of the Pulsar 220 that looks exactly like the 200. I was so upset with this. This happened within a few months of me buying a bike. There are no replacements for the CT 100 and they never seemed to care about it.
Guys Pulsar 220cc is waste bike don’t buy it.
I thought to buy it bcz of speed and power
But it really doesn’t have the power and speed
Go to Karizma Zmr guys put some money
Guys RTR 180,Yamaha R15,Karizma ZMR and R are superb bikes spend some money guys get the good one first.
Fuck this pulsar 220cc
Guys it has speed meter problems check the youtube video guys one guy is riding bike for 199km/hr and he says his bike has speed meter problem and in this blog I can see that 3 guys have disc brake problems. The speed what its showing in pulsar speed meter is not right its showing the fake thing but its not same in Yamaha R15 and Karizma Zmr
Pay money and buy the good one guys why you wanna face the problems after few months we actually need the bike at least for 10 years guys
what is the difference between real men & rich spoiled boys?
Real men ride a bike on the road in real.
& rich spoiled boys like to play bike racing in a video game inside their house & think that they know everything about biking.
Real men like power & performance.
Rich spoiled boys like the price (because their dads pay their bills) & buy the costly products so that they can brag about it in front of others.
They know nothing about biking ( power & performance).They go for colouring, stickering & big fairings.
Karizma ZMR & Yamaha R15 are above 1 lacs, but they can’t even compete with 70k bikes (p180,apache180,p200 etc).
So, Mr.sunny, do u yourself own a p220?
I think not & if u do, then u seriously should take driving lessons because I think U can’t handle the RAW POWER of P220 DTSi.
I myself own a P180 DTSi UGIII & P220 DTSi and nothing can come close to both of them.(R15 can beat P180 on top speed only).
I checked the Top speed of both on road.
P180 tops at 126 Km/h & P220 tops at a massive 148 Km/h.
My Friend has a Karizma ZMR at it toped at 125 km/h
another friends Yamaha R15 toped at 132 km/h
We dragged on a highway for 5 kms & from start to end nobody was close to me. Hell, when I stopped at the end of 5 kms, & turned, i could’t even see them properly. they were at least 400 to 500 m away from me. The friend on the R15 reached me first then the karizma arrived.
Personally I think R15 is a good bike but a bit pricey.
But Karizma ZMR is a huge dissapontment. at 108 K HH are selling crap.
Buy a HH Hunk (150 cc ) or P135 & they can both make a fun of ZMR on city roads. Apache lineup is good what they give for the money.
I am saying all these after 12 years of Hard-core Biking.
My P180 is 4 years old & P220 DTSi is 1.5 years old.
So my friends, Just go for P220 without any doubt. It will leave behind everything on the road with a lions roar. don’t listen to people who don’t even know how to drive a bike on real roads.( they only watch bike races on you-tube & think they know everything about biking)
P220 DTSi is the fastest Bike in India.
(excluding imported bikes, Mahindra MOJO 292 cc & Yamaha RD350).
If anybody think otherwise,
(I don’t like mouth arguing),
then they are welcome to challenge me on the road.
highways = 1- P220 2- Karizma
City = 1- P220 2- Apache 180 or P180 3- P135 or Hunk or Apache 160
Track = I didn’t ride on tracks, so I can’t comment.
If U or your dad have more money than u can spend Go for Ninja250 or find a rare RD350 ( both are monsters for Indian roads ) for everything else P220 is there for U.It will cost u only Rs.82,000 approx & its maintanance is also very cheap.With it u also get the best headlights on Indian Road. Just put ur finger on the high beam & u will see how every vehicle makes way for u. No other bike can come close to you.
Just imagine this:
1st gear – 52 Km/h
2nd gear – 76 Km/h
3rd gear – 114 Km/h
4th gear – 134 Km/h
5th gear – depends on u.
You can’t imagine these on any other Indian Bike.
If u like colours scemes, stickers, big fairings & huge price (without performance) they go for HH or Yamaha (both are good in stickering & colouring jobs).
How funny are yamaha bikes,
they put a fat tyre on a FZ (a small 150 cc ) & selling it at Rs.74,000 approx
they put some stickers on this FZ & calling it a FZS & selling it at Rs.76,000 approx.
They pu a huge fairing on the Puny FZ & call it a Fazer & selling it for around Rs.80,000 approx.
They put on some more stickers & colours & calling them FZ & FZS & Fazer limited editions & selling them around Rs.77,000 to Rs.83,000 approx.
& u know the most funny thing: some people are buying them.
That goes to show u haow many people in india there who know nothing about Bikes.
So, at the end, If U know something about Bikes & Handle Really RAW Power & want a truly value for money bike which u can ride for atleast 7-8 years, go for The Pulsar 220 DTSi. It is currently the king of Indian Roads.
guyz… nxt month im planin 2 buy a bike…. i hve driven ma frrnds p220 bt i thnk it has sufferd a lot f complaints n maintainance……. heeez is advicin me a karizma or aa unicorn dazzler…..guyz plz tell me wat 2 buy… im not a rash drivver n i wan ma byk 2 last 4 atleast 10 yrs…….
For Power & Style & fastest – Bajaj P220 DTSi (value for money )
It doestn’t have any maintanance problem.
Believe me, I am driving one for 1.5 years now.
For Style only – Yamaha R15 ( a bit overprised ) ( parts are very costly & mostly unavailable)
For city rides without rash driving – Hero Honda Hunk 2010 new edition. ( all the hero honda bikes have huge maintanance cost)
Don’t go for Karizma ZMR. It is the biggest looser of any Karizma edition.
It is very heavy without any increase in power from its early editions.
HH is giving trash for Rs.107,000 approx.
If u want Karizma, go for Karizma R, It is good bike for Rs.80,000 approx.
It is even faster than ZMR for Rs.27,000 less.
Old Unicorn was a good option but new unicorn dazzler is not good.
New HH Hunk is a very good bike in 150 cc category. It is smooth & have a good balance. Its shockers are nice. It now also has a rear disc brake.
So,
P220 DTSi or Karizma R or Unicorn (old model) or Hunk (new edition with rear disc brakes).
R15 is a good bike but for short drives. definitely not for long drives.
No No to Karizma ZMR because it is a poor value for money. You can get much more better bikes at Rs.25,000 to Rs.30,000 less.
thnkz rana
not good
Hi,
To put an end to this discussion –
Previous bike : pulsar 180
Current bike: 220 dtsi 2010
No bike till date can match the ‘most economical’ tag of the pulsar 150′s and the 180′s. Gone are those days.
I am HUGELY disappointed in the 220 dtsi. I am a regular visitor to the bagga link SCs in delhi which is supposed to be the No1 service station in india. Simply put, service is useless. They’re experts at – oil change, brake pad replacement and other menial tasks that can be performed by local mechanics.
In the 5 months of driving, i have constantly faced gear box and engine noise issues. No one can provide a solution that lasts more than a week. Newer problems are creeping in as i drive through months.
Horrible build quality and of course horrible service. Bajaj is still a 5 yr old kid who acts like adults. Buy yamaha, stay safe. There’s a reason why the R15 or fazer cost so much. Its not the price of the bike but also the cost you pay to ensure you buy a product that has least maintenance.
@Rana and all 220 dtsi supporters –
1. None of the yamaha spares are manufactured in india. Hence the delay in part availability. Bajaj spares cost almost a third of an equivalent yamaha spare because of the same reason and also because they are replaced more often than that single yamaha spare.
2. There will be a dip in performance of any bike after 5-6 months of regular driving, even with service. Its a machine, not an electronic equipment!
The R15 is priced at around 1.2 lac in Delhi. The pulsar 220 dtsi is now 83k after tax increased.
Why do you think there’s such a big price difference even though pulsar is 220cc and R15 is 150cc. Reason being us indians cannot see past numbers. 220 hai, sasti hai, best hai. Cheap and Best can never coexist.
With all due respect to everyone, do not test drive a bike @ a showroom to satisfy yourself and make the booking. Arrange a proper 20-30 min run with someone who already owns your dream bike (for 3-4 months min). Then decide.
Hi,
@bhavandeep singh:-
1.”None of the spares are manufactured in India”
Is it our problem? its Yamahas problem.
Why would we care where they are being manufactured.
Its service, price & availability that we want, & yamaha simply can’t give it.
You have to be “Indiana Jones” to find a showroom or service station of
yamaha here at Kolkata.
2. R15 is no doubt, a good bike.
But u can’t justify a 150 cc bike for a price tag of 1.2 lac in India.
After all, maximum people here belong to middle class & it is our hard earned
money you are talking about.
In simple words, P220 DTSi and R15 bike owners are mostly racers.
I am not going for a CC measurements.
Simply saying, If a Rs.83000 bike can make a 1.2 lac bike eat dust, I don’t see
any further arguments here.
On Streets, A Rs.74000 P180 or Rs.76000 Apache 180 can put a R15 to shame.
3. Most people who don’t care about numbers will not use any bike for more
than 3 to 4 years. So, who cares.
I have ridden a P220 DTSi for about 1.5 years now & I am preety much ruling the roads.After 2 more years I will buy another bike which will be even more powerfull and much much more cheaper than yamahas future puny overpriced bikes.
Off topic:
4. Who said cheap & best can never coexist?
Example: AMD Phenom II 970 BE Processor sells for around Rs.9000 which is
way more powerfull than Intel’s Processors which are more than double this
price.
There are many such examples.
Cheap & best can never coexist is for 20th century.
Remember? this is 21st century.
Cheap & best do coexist largely in todays world.
5.You must be a yamaha driver, thats why you think that after 5 to 6 months
performance will dip even after servicing.
I am driving my P220 DTSi for a year and half now & I regularly pass 145 km/h
mark even now, no problem.
In this 1.5 years I have only changed the “ball racers” once. which is about Rs.110 only. Except that, only minor sevicings.nothing more than that.
But the last paragraph is perfect.
never test drive a bike @ showroom.
Rana ji,
I do not stay in kolkata. I stay in Delhi. I have personally experienced a lot of problems with my pulsar 220cc and that’s the basis of my post. I commute to office daily (60 km up down) on my 220cc and most problems re/develop within 2 weeks of servicing. Also, i believe i do justice to my bike while driving. Still, if i have to visit the SVC every now and then, then its irritating.
My colleague drives an R15 to the office (40 kms up down) and he hasn’t serviced his bike for 3 months now. Still i am amazed how the R15′s engine note/smoothness are still the same, while my pulsar requires PROPER service every 40-50 days. Maybe because i commute more distances everyday. How much do you drive your 220 everyday? If its the same as me, then definitely the product i got has manufacturing defects…wont you agree?
I can only quote what i have honestly witnessed. Your friend and my colleague do not drive the same R15. I do not know why your friend needs to go to the service center frequently. I do know that i like my colleagues R15.
About the pulsar 220cc smoking the R15. Yes it will do that any day and yes i would never keep a bike for more than 3 yrs or so. But personally, those 3 years, i should have a blast with what i buy. With MY 220, i have mostly been blasting the SVC center guys. Maybe its my fault in not knowing what part needs replacement?/what is this engine noise?/how to service my bike myself?
You’re asking for a justification for the R15′s price. Well for one its a Yamaha. I don’t see a Bajaj product on the GP circuits, nor in non-asian countries. I believe that a big brand can’t afford to compromise on quality. It has Fuel Injection, and mind you, the best in its class. A better engine quality and i base this on the smoothness of the engine and the engine note.
Off topic, I think you should have considered why AMD processors would be cheaper. L2/L3 Cache adds around 1000 per MB to the price of a processor as a stick rule. If you want to start arguing with Hyper transport and AMD memory management, this is not the place. Check out the cache that Intel processors are offering. I own an AMD myself, so can’t write much! : P
Not to disown my 220, i still love it! But i just wish it gave me fewer problems. I’ll be booking my R15 soon.
Happy riding, happy diwali!
who said that yamaha bikes need least maintanance.
Are you a Yamaha R15 owner?
If not, don’t say things you don’t observe yourself.
My friend has a R15.
I race with it regularly.
Sometimes, we switch the bikes.
Its an awesome bike (for a puny 150 cc engine), no question about it.
But, he has to regularly go to services (to change something)
mostly parts are not available. If available, they are very costly.
No hard feelings; but in my opinion:
1. P220 DTSi for 4 years + P300 cc (maybe) for 4 years= 8 years
cost = Rs.83000 + Rs.100000 (maybe) = Rs.1,83,000
service = Rs. 10000 + Rs.15000 (maybe) = Rs. 25,000
Therefore, for the next 8 years I will rule the Indian Roads with two brand
new Bikes ( and best ) buy paying Just Rs.2,08,000 (approx)
2. R15 for 8 years (If u drive it for so long, It will be old grandpa that none will
like after 3 to 4 years from now:
Cost = Rs.1,20,000 + Service = Rs.70,000 (approx)
Thus, u are driving the same old bike for a boring 8 long years behind most
bikes which are much more value for money & good looking and u still are
paying Rs.1,90,000 (approx)
I think the 1st option is much more value for money and u can buy two monsters on indian roads for almost the same price as 1 R15
The choice is yours:
Do u want to drive 1 puny little overpriced bike.
or,
Do u want to drive 2 brand new fastest Indian bikes to remain on the top of the food chain & eat Little Yamaha bikes for breakfast, lunch & dinner for almost the same price.
The choice is simple in my opinion. Hahaha…..
2 Rana
Guys Each and every bike manufactured has got its own characteristics and P220 is sumthin v al indians should feel proud abt coz its been developed by a indian company.
N i’m a pulsar lover coz i was a Pulsar 150ug1 model and used it almost for 6yrs infact i would 150ug1 was the best coz even i use to race al time and inspite of such hardcore usage i got 50kmpl from my old bike so now i hope ur quiet sure tat even i’m a pulsar lover
And now i own a FZ-s so this deosn mean i was senseless to spend 76k on a punny 150cc bike wit fat tyres.. Seriuosly 80km speed in my fz feels lik lightnin..
the adrenalin rush is really gr8 compared to my ug1 p150 .. And for ur kind info stil many mech’s and str racers use a YAMAHA Rx 135′s and 100′s… and their values r quiet high compared to a bajaj bike coz same bajaj probikin ppl dint take my old pulsar for less than 15k but yamaha took it for 18k…
So if u wanna talk in terms of performance kindly don degrade yamaha coz al our indian tracks u can find pulsars bein parked outside the track but yamaha and tvs bikes r bien used inside the tracks dude…..
hi guys i want to buy a new bike but i m a bit confused between pulsar 220 nd karizma R plz sugest me bikers
Hi hemendra,
I would personally recommend the Karizma R. Please read the following differences to make your pick -
1. Pulsar 220cc is 21 bhp and the Karizma R is 17 bhp, so after the pulsar puts the 4th gear, it will smoke the karizma R owing its longer 4th and 5th gears and greater power output. 220 wins here.
2. In the city, the Karizma R handles slightly better than the 220, although the difference is not that great. In the handling part, you wont be disappointed with either bike. Both bikes have a comfortable sitting position.
3. 220 looks better than the Karizma R i believe. 220 wins here.
4. In the maintenance aspect, the 220 requires frequent maintenance if you drive in the city. But the Karizma R owing to its better build quality, requires fewer visits to the service center. Karizma R wins here.
5. The service centers of Hero Honda are any day better than Bajaj service centers. I have personally had my share of ‘very’ bad experiences with Bajaj Service centers in Delhi. They will not replace a part unless you tell them it needs replacement. Karizma R wins here.
6. PS: I own a 220cc … I love its performance, but its not meant for city traffic and the after sales service sucks big time. At least the Karizma will handle everything without wanting maintenance//part replacement every other time.
Good luck!
Drive safe
hi bhavandeep
i m thankful to u buddy
i wil keep each nd every advice of urs in mind.actualy i m nw clear on my confusion.
This bike is osam but in mileage this cannot give 25 to 30km in a one liter petrol but the overall performance is best
Hello friends !
As in the market R 15 ,pulsar 220 and Karizma are giving good competition,but in my opinion all the above specified bikes has got their own features ,pros n cons…it depends on each individuals liking and riding …but speaking with experience ..my friend owns a pulsar 220 and my bro owns a karisma (old version)..but i feel R 15 has got the best handling capacity,speed and comfort ..but pulsar 220 can blow up R 15 initially but no bike can catch R 15 on top seep …excellent road grip !! u feel ur on 40kms speed at 130kms speed and i kno its costly when compared to the other bikes ..but the quality of the engine is uncompromising ..just imagine a bike of 149.6cc competes with 220cc ?? u will find the right bike ..safe riding…thank u frnz….
Thats totally acceptable comparison. But you should also look into ground clearance when it comes to indian roads. R15 sucks big time with ground clearance because its very short. Of course it is good on highways. But you have use this as Hero Honda Splendor in the city..
low ground clearance ? The r15 manages potholes / bumps very well. If you search forums then you’ll get to know the very common ‘full-stand hitting pothole/bump’ problem with the 220s.
Right about city riding though ! It is annoying to shift gears so often in the R15, but if your commuting journey has ample free road, then you should be fine. For people driving the R15 to the office @ peak hours in bumper to bumper traffic, the bike becomes a pain to operate. The 220 and R15 are both best ridden in off hours when the roads are a bit free.
Source : I own both bikes now : D
pavan u r wrong r15 is 150cc bike but its engine is liquid cooled which produce double power keep in mind
As far as Yamaha R15 is considered the height of the vehicle is low. It is not recommended for rash driving. The ground clearance is low when compared to Pulsar 220 and Karizma. You need to be more careful with speed breakers on road because it may hit the engine and the fearing might also get hurt. But when comparing Karizma ZMR and Pulsar 220, I would definitely go for Pulsar 220 because most common aspects (speed, pick up, comfort, ground clearance, dual disk and head lights-twin projector lamps in Pulsar 220) are better in Pulsar 220.
Hooo………damn is has a big power in it…also loaded with tonnes of torque..i was confused whether in go for Yamaha R15 or Hero Honda’s ZMR or THE HERO-Pulsar 220….! but i decided to go with the boss of alllllll……………. yeahhhh……..
I appreciate your selection. You can dominate Indian Roads using Pulsar 220. Moreover it comes with India’s Biggest Carburetor. The service is also good. I went to the showroom to book one and their response was mind blowing. They in fact care for their customers. I will always stick with Bajaj – The Boss.
I had an exact opposite experience. Only the finance guys were friendly and modest. The service center expereince was very horrible. I got my timing chain replaced 2wice in 2 months … talk about build quality !
The mechanics told me “Sir you drive rash thats why you’ve come back”. I used my 220 to commute to the office (60 km up down daily). What is the scope of ‘rash’ in city traffic ??? Also fast is not equal to rash. This bike is meant to be driven fast.
The mechanics know the bike’s build quality is questionable. Drawing 21 bhp from a 220cc engine and NOT coupling it with a better cam shaft & other components is typical of bajaj to bring down the cost.
Hi guys,
I need an auto expert advice urgently.
I am palnning to upgrade my Pulsar-150 to Pulsar-220 Dtssi.
Any other better options available, should I wait for some more time ?
Can you please help me out with your sincere & honest suggestions.
Thanks & Regards
Asif Khan
Hi,
Assuming your budget is around the price of the 220, i’d suggest that the 220 itself is a great value for money in that range.
Other options to look for are apache RTR 180, Karizma ZMR, maybe HH Hunk. Still, the 220 has been around more than these bikes and is better in almost all specifications. But be ready for frequent SVC visits.
Only upcoming bike is the new yamaha R15 (late August/Sep … or maybe not this year). Other launches are for the lower segment bikes. The 220 will be a safe bet for you since no new bikes will be launched this year.
hiiiii guys,,,,i am going to buy a bike this week…….so plzzz help me…….what should i get upto…a pulsar 220 dtsi OR yamaha FZs …….i dont have any experience about these bikes……
Hi Mr. Rana,
I love the Pulsar 220 dts-i very much and would like to buy it but cant for some reasons-
1. Very heavy to handle in traffic(I find even the Hunk to be heavy, let alone the 220.)
2. Not good mileage(I agree that we shouldn’t see mileage in performance bikes, but still…;-)
3. Sorry but I can’t find any more reasons. And all those guys who are saying that Bajaj bikes are unreliable, I’d
like to put M-Seal on their lips. My dad has a 12 year old bajaj scooter(although he’s stopped using it now). It
hasn’t been serviced for over six years and still is running absolutely trouble free. He also has a Bajaj XCD 125
DTS-Si which is 4 years old, hasn’t given a single problem till date and returns excellent economy(70 kmpl when dad
rides it, and 60-65 when i ride it like a dog, at 80-85 kmph
).
I like the Apache RTR 180. Are TVS bikes reliable? I don’t care about engine smoothness. It already looks perfect.
Please tell me if it gives engine related problems or any other problems..
Anyone can reply to my comment.. Just do it soon!!!
Hi,
P-220 dtsi looks quite similar to its juniors except power, Is Bajaj doing something in this matter, I wish if they can give some sporty stylish look to P-220, it will be better.
If anybody has any idea about this whether Bajaj is planning to launch it with new looks, please letm know ASAP.
not till next year. Bajaj’s current business strategy is to bring Ktm bikes to india. A bigger pulsar will not be launched before next year.
pulsar220 beats the r15 in any conditions……
but alos i love r15…
go for r15
i had drived pulsar 220 at 134km……
Does anybody have any comments regarding the body/engine vibration during high speed. Unlike the 250cc dual cylinder Ninja, the 220 has only one cylinder.
Cheers,
Indra
hi, i m manoj rawat . i like pulsar bikes .
hey…. am confused…… whch bike to takeee……….
Yamaha Fazer or Pulsar 220…….
am bother abt performance, service, handlin and drive…..
plz help me…..
got delivery of my new pulser 220 dtsi. F guys. marvelous bike i would say…. i think its more head turning bike on the road as compared to R15. and performance is also very good. as i m 5’11″ so it looks nice on me…
are there any new versions available within this series?
which one is the best bike karizma zmr or pulsar 220 dts-fi.
please reply
i want qutation pls send and prize on road installiment
i care about performance but more about safety,comfort,price and easy to maintain,, please give me a favor to make a right decision, should i buy P220 or else? i attracted by the factory claim but i need to know from those who have knowledge about this bike,,
please be honest,,tell the truth based on your experience riding/having/trying all of those bike we’ve been talking about.. pliz tell me in simple n easy ways
thank you, thanks v much guys,,
wanna buy pulsar 220 in blue and black colour but after seeing newr15 v2..
confused…
pulsar 220f always rocks…..its quality is too high in 2011 edition…believe it…..so no doubt just go pulsar….
i used bajaj caliber more than 15 years…..so how the guys can tell that bajaj products are not reliable….
It really looks like Karizma. is it in market now?
i touched speed of 159 km on my 220
I have a discover 135 (2009) model and I want to upgrade it to large rear tire and disc brake can I use p220s swing arm and disc brake system did any one tried or done or what is my option’s thanks