Yamaha FZ16 Vs. Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler – A Comprehensive Comparo

by Kannan on August 9, 2010

When the ever so beautiful FZ was launched by Yamaha a couple of years back, market was all speculative of the success for such a high price tag for (an ultimately) a 150cc machine. As they say, time speaks for itself when FZ became the mainstay motorcycle for Yamaha becoming the hot favorite for people who wanted a premium 150cc bike.

For so many months together no manufacturer tried to fiddle with the dominance of FZ in this segment, until, arch rivals Honda sneezed in with an upgrade of their super refined Unicorn by placing a bike right at the throat of FZ; they called it Dazzler! In our roadtest Dazzler emerged as a punchier version of Unicorn and with many new features loaded it seemed to be the right time to put both the FZ and Dazzler to Armageddon!

ENGINE & TRANSMISSION:

FACTS FIRST: Both the bikes come with a single cylinder, 4 stroke, 2 valve, air cooled, SOHC engine with the Dazzler’s mill displacing 149.1cc to produce a maximum power output of 14 bhp at 8500 rpm on the tachometer. FZ has a slightly larger displacement of 153cc and produces 14PS (13.8 bhp) of peak power which is lower by 0.2bhp but comes 1k earlier @ 7500 rpm. Dazzler is capable of producing 12.8 Nm of torque at 6500 rpm while FZ produces a humongous peak torque of 14 Nm (which is 1.2 Nm greater) and also comes in 500rpm earlier at 6000rpm.

ON ROAD: As is clearly reflected from the figures, Dazzler is a more rev-friendly machine with peak figures coming at higher RPMs and FZ is made to be more city-centric; feeling at home when city cruising and ‘cutting through congested traffic’ moves are demanded. These ‘typical’ characters of both the bikes would become clearer when we will talk about performance figures later in this comparo.

Both the engines feels rock solid with tremendous build quality exuberated from both the Japanese manufacturers. Dazzler takes away the crown of the more refined mill among these but just! FZ also has a beautiful refined feel to the engine just that it gets beaten on higher rpms. Dazzler exudes typical Unicorn-like refinement levels with vibration dampeners curbing any unwanted pulsations from the engine (but definitely CB Unicorn still is the most refined bike we have ridden.)

Both the bikes are shod with a 5 speed slick gearbox with very little to differentiate between them. Both the bikes now come with an only-toe shifter to boost the sporty characteristics both of them possess. FZs gear change feel is slicker than Dazzler but Dazzler’s (though slightly harder) is more complete and feels ‘always in slot’ upon any gear changes. But Honda’s clutch feels reasonably more buttery than FZ here which makes gear change a breeze and it also helps a lot during sudden gear changes required during quick maneuvers.

Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler: 9/10
Yamaha FZ16: 8/10

STYLING & BUILD QUALITY:

To be very frank, if we were asked to rate Dazzler higher than FZ in this section with a sniper pointed at our asses, we would prefer to take bullets! It’s such a huge difference between the two. In fact, this is the only section in the whole comparo where both the bikes seem not belonging to one segment!!! FZ 16 definitely feels class apart with its raw bold styling borrowed from the international FZ series. Right from the naked front clear lens fairing to the huge humped massive tank to the dual tone pointed seat to the country’s fattest tires, every inch of this bike screams style.

FZ has been made with elegance in mind and the big gallant looks of the bike probably makes it one of the best looking bikes in the country. We could never find any single thing till this point of time which could look disproportionate on this bike. The bigger point here is the fact that we are uttering these blossoming words after 2 years of FZ’s launch; such is the fresh feel associated with the bike, still.

Even if it were some other bike in comparison, Dazzler doesn’t seem to be made to look breath-taking. Though attempt has been made to make it look flashier, but unfortunately, other manufacturers feel slightly ahead in this department. The front looks ala fairing itself lends the bike a ‘sad-er’ face but the huge tank shrouds (with the classy Honda emblem engraved on them) do the savior job here. Rest of the bike looks small, plain and decently done with nothing very off beat to talk about.

Surprisingly, build quality of Dazzler (apart from the engine bit) did not feel what Honda is famous for with wirings running around, incompatible rear footrace assembly, bad quality plastics and lack of better fit and finish of components. Yamaha does a wonderful job here as well with fantastic fit and finish and the detailing done here is commendable.

Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler: 6/10
Yamaha FZ16: 9.5/10

CHASSIS, COMFORT & HANDLING:

Both the bikes use the Diamond Frame which is sturdy, rigid and a proven one. Unicorn brought in the single shock concept in India (under the name Monoshock) and for the first time people understood how good a bike can handle; Dazzler takes the theory forward. Front uses the regular telescopic shock absorbers and the rear has an adjustable red colored monoshock which could be adjusted according to the kind of terrain you are riding your bike on.

FZ comes equipped with India’s fattest 41mm front telescopic shock absorbers which can travel a max of 130mm. The fat tubes add a lot of muscle to the looks of the bike at the same time providing lovely shock absorption capabilities. Coupled with the lovely front is the adjustable Monocross suspension at the rear which can travel 120mm.

Coming to the cornering part, Dazzler is one fantastic cornering machine but grossly hindered by the forward biased commuterish front footpegs which always play spoilsport whenever you want that extra lean angle. High rise handlebar further plays down the fun. In order to make a sports oriented bike, Honda did forget to make these changes (or did they intentionally do that?). The grip on those 110mm 17 inch tubeless rubbers is awesome and does instill that feeling of confidence in the rider.

FZ, with country’s widest rear tubeless radial (140 section), backset footpegs and wide handlebar form one cute rider-bike geometry which could bypass any corner and did we say with aplomb! Because of a wider patch always in contact with the road, FZ feels a more planted bike on triple digit speeds as well.

Dazzler, with its two tone seat, has a broader rear end to accommodate two Indian sized butts with comfort. FZ has a narrower pillion seat which is definitely a pain on long rides. Dazzler also has a commuter oriented geometry which is obviously more comfortable with a relaxed upright seating posture. FZ has a rearset open chested wider seating posture which becomes a routine after a few rides. But the front seat of FZ is what we liked particularly. It felt more composed, better cushioned and longer in length. Yamaha with its plastic enveloped tank has a better knee recess than the Dazzler.

Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler: 8/10
Yamaha FZ16: 9/10

ELECTRICALS & INSTRUMENTATION:

Honda for the first time brought some digital stuff on a 150cc machine. Dazzler has got a pretty neatly done blue backlit console which features an analogue tachometer and a small digital speedometer apart from the regular information indicators. The digital speedometer window also has a watch, fuel indicator, trip meter along with an odometer integrated onto it. The bad part about the bike is it’s still not DC which has become quite a norm these days. The bike also does without a pass switch, pilot lamps and more importantly (and surprisingly) an engine kill switch! Sad on the part of Honda, but as they say, “Honda says, Honda understands and Honda does”!!!

On the other hand we have Yamaha providing everything missing on Dazzler and perhaps some more! FZ sports a complete digital console which, for the first time watchers takes time to understand and get used to. The orange backlit Liquid Crystal Display does help in a clear vision but during the day it becomes a little problematic to read the figures with the sunlight hitting the console directly. This is not the issue with FZ-S and Fazer as they come equipped with visors to save the console of direct sunlight.

The panel consists of a digital tachometer, odometer, tripmeter, a separate fuel gauge and a speedometer with big bold letters reading out the speed in kmph. The regular information lights fill the remaining part of the console. Switchgear quality of FZ is better, providing curvy, non-pointed buttons for most functions.

Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler: 7/10
Yamaha FZ16: 8.5/10

PERFORMANCE & BRAKING:

After going through a diet regime and an increase in muscular power, Honda has ensured that Dazzler is loaded with enough ammo to give its competitors a tough time. With almost similar weight and power figures, we expected a very close call between these two machines. And as we had in mind, both the bikes were neck to neck on almost all instances. Despite a fatter rear tire and 0.2 bhp deficit, FZ is slightly quicker in the 0-60 kmph sprint clocking a little less than 5.5 seconds where Dazzler takes a little over 5.5 seconds for the same. But as the difference increases, Dazzlers power and higher redline comes into play aiding the bike to reach 100 kmph almost a second quicker than FZ.

Dazzler also goes on to achieve a higher top whack of 119 kmph on the speedometer (approx 108-110 true) where FZ manages 115 kmph (approx 105 kmph true). With very little to differentiate, we come with a demarcation here; FZ felt rock solid at these speeds but (engine) stressed at the same time, whereas Dazzler felt a lot at ease from its engine response, being reasonably planted at this speed.

All the above mentioned figures are really close and do not make much of a difference in actual riding conditions. What matters are the in-city roll ons because that is where both of these bikes are meant to be driven for major part of their life cycles. And needless to point fingers, FZ with its class leading torque figures makes its way right to the top. With the engine belting out 14Nm of massive torque majorly distributed towards the lower and mid range, this bike breezes through busy traffics quickly and with aplomb. Dazzler is slightly more nimble here but lacks the pulling power FZ boasts of.

Dazzler comes equipped with a 240mm front disc as well as a 220mm rear disc (both Nissin) which has helped improve the braking of the bike from its sibling Unicorn. A fatter 110 section rear MRF Nylogrip tubeless tire also helps a lot. As a result, Dazzler has a better feedback from its brakes and is quicker to stop than FZ. But FZs larger 267mm front KBX Disc setup has more bite and feel. Rear of FZ works on the conventional mechanical expanding shoe type which is decent considering the huge tire it works on but no match for the rear disc of Dazzler. Overall, both the bikes have pretty fantastic stopping capabilities with the Dazzler outperforming FZ because of the added disc at the rear. However, its FZ which feels more planted out of the two under sudden harsh braking.

Just to add a word for our Stunters, FZ is a better bike for popping wheelies and carrying them to longer distances: huge rear tyre acts as a balancer here apart from the riders capabilities. FZ is also better than Dazzler at performing Stoppies.

Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler: 8/10
Yamaha FZ16: 8.5/10

MILEAGE & PRICING:

Unicorn symbolized epitome of fuel efficiency in this segment and the same characteristics are carried over by its sibling, (step-brother probably!). Dazzler has been reporting fuel efficiency figures of 50 km on every liter of fuel in typical Indian city driving conditions and over 55 kmpl on highways which are fantastic and all the more, considering the power bump it has gone through. With a 12 liter tank, Dazzler has a range of around 600 kilometer for every tank full of gas.

FZ’s biggest shortcoming comes over the top in this section. No matter how hard Yamaha tries to overshadow its fuel efficiency figures by its marketing tactics, it has become a big fact that FZ is a thirsty donkey when it comes to drinking petrol. FZ returns figures in the range of 42kmpl under our type of conditions and goes over 46-47 kilometers for every liter of fuel consumed on highways which falls short of our expectations from a 14PS machine. These figures go along with a small volume tank of 12 liters which implies a running of 500-510 kilometer before the engine would shut off leaving you uninhabited on a long dark isolated road, if you are not cautious.

FZ came in India with a huge tank and an even homogonous price tag. Even after that it has only seen newer variants placed on the more expensive side of the spectrum. FZ 16 costs Rs. 72,649 after everything when it makes it on the road in Pune. On the other hand, Honda’s story is slightly different. Unicorn lacked some basic features and timely upgrades but was still priced equal to the competition. With Dazzler, they have come around the competition in terms of offerings as a product but, unfortunately, price has gone up as well. At Rs 71,564 (OTR Pune), Dazzler offers what other manufacturers are offering at 2000-3000 INR lesser.

Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler: 8/10
Yamaha FZ16: 6.5/10

BikeAdvice VERDICT:

After calculating the points we have awarded to both the bikes in the above sections, the swashbuckling FZ scores 50 points where the latest offering from Honda, Dazzler managed to score 45 points out of the maximum of 60 available points. This leaves us to a clear winner, Yamaha’s FZ and a difference of 5 brownie points reflects the true difference between these two bikes. Price only doesn’t make a product belong to a particular segment (though that is what Honda is forcing us to believe).

Dazzler has a lot of positives going in its favor; lovely refined engine for one with a lovely ride quality but no matter what, FZ always looks and feels a segment above Dazzler, or for that matter of fact all the current lot of 150ccs in the market. Yamaha exudes a different class right from the fit and finish of the product, to the mean looking headlamp, to the royal bulged tank all the way to the huge tire at the rear which go along with a tremendous torquey engine. No matter how much both of these bikes sell in the coming times, Yamaha FZ is definitely better as a complete packaged product than Dazzler.

If we turn our attention to personal choices, Dazzler suits people who are more on the mature side; who want better fuel efficiency; who want to own a better ‘Unicorn’; who are married and have to carry one permanent wife as pillion (not literally!). FZ is and has been a hooligan’s choice! It suits youngsters who do not want to compromise on anything, specially the looks part; who love stunting; who have friends to contribute for those extra fuel expenses (when dads pocket money vanishes within first 15 days of the month) and more importantly have a (or many) look conscious, low-rise jeans clad always blabbering girlfriend(s)!

- Saad Khan
saad@bikeadvice.in

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Amit August 9, 2010 at 12:41 pm

Conclusion is hilarious :D!!!!

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@m!t August 9, 2010 at 3:01 pm

pretty much seems to be a biased review in favor of FZ.was a shocker to see FZ being rated more in BRAKING department(Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler: 8/10
Yamaha FZ16: 8.5/10) inspite honda being equipped with rear disc breaks n tubless tryes.
overall the review is good.
but still dazzler is a compelling bet compared to FZ.
Dazzler(a complete package) & FZ for (ONLY looks n handling)

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Sunday October 23, 2010 at 9:33 pm

FZ has a wider tyre than Dazzler
Breaking performance will be batter as balance between disc and drum combination

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arun August 9, 2010 at 4:36 pm

Great job mate was waiting for this comparision for a long time

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shibin August 9, 2010 at 5:42 pm

wonderful review…
hoping to look forward on a comparo between r15 and fz!!

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varsha August 9, 2010 at 6:04 pm

Really a good comparison..good job..

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Captian Obvious August 9, 2010 at 6:09 pm

So should girls believe only Dazzlers and not FZ’s? :-)

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rajbasumatary August 9, 2010 at 6:27 pm

Thats a good one. Want to see a comparo between suzuki gs150r n hero honda hunk.

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santosa` August 9, 2010 at 7:55 pm

nice comparo
waiting for review on 100cc,(between pasion pro,discover 100)

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Gyan Prakash August 9, 2010 at 8:42 pm

jus one nagging doubt..does fz have a DC headlight set-up??

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ANIRUDDHA PATWARDHAN June 6, 2012 at 11:40 am

YES

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Prabhu August 9, 2010 at 9:21 pm

Yes. An unbiased review. Thanks saad. In handling and sudden braking fz is far better than all the other bikes here. But it has all its power in low n mid range. Disappoints in pulling past 75. Dazzler is really good competition for fz since both are japanese companies. But no comparison in looks, fz is clean winner. Dazzler is a plain decent looking bike, wont grab one’s attention. Tats it. Looking forward for gs, pulsar, unicorn comparison in performance..

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Prabhu August 9, 2010 at 9:27 pm

@ gyan prakash
Yes it has dc set up.

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ASDF August 9, 2010 at 9:33 pm

@ @m!t,,
fz does lacks the rear disk brakes, but it also has the tubeless RADIAL tyres bro !!!

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Ankit Tiwari August 9, 2010 at 11:39 pm

The best ever words used, to describe, since the birth of languages, am waiting for something which Mr. Saad Khan knows much better than me.

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Yatharth August 10, 2010 at 12:41 am

Nice review. Well written and unbiased.

@ First two comments:

1) No the conclusion is not hilarious. Its very much accurate.
2) That 8/10 for dazzler and 8.5/10 for FZ is not just for braking but its for performance as well. And in terms of performance FZ is better thanks to more torque it has better in gear acceleration and of course better driveablity.

Also just cuz dazzler has a rear disc does not naturally mean that it has a better brake set up. If you’ll look at the braking distances there is not too much difference plus brake feel on FZ is simply awesome.

Its really easy to criticize a good review but its very tough to support ur criticism with valid arguments. As for ur criticism of this review.. .its ur comment that is hilarious

Regards.

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Aryan August 10, 2010 at 9:13 am

A sincere review i would say…Dazzler does not hav that X-factor to beat FZ in modern style..but 5 points difference is a bit too high.

As for the conclusion i think we shud stop publishing such views, a Splendor is seem more with girls in there 20′s than a FZ,Pulsar,Dazzler or a R15…we all see that on road isn’t it.
and funny part is i hardly see grls on FZ.
A pillion always looks for comfort and not style..

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Bikes August 10, 2010 at 9:36 am

It is great comaparison & good Job.

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Cool bikes August 10, 2010 at 9:41 am

The indian manfacture just cannot match the quality and the refinement of the japs………………….kya bolta hai janta

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Rahul Shetty April 9, 2011 at 6:07 pm

thats wat im saying…indian companies are still in learning position where as these yamaha and honda are juz playing with few bike parts to create these machines…!!

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vivek nair August 10, 2010 at 11:17 am

WOW…this was a heart stopping moment while i was reading through your article, i was missing my beats after looking at the points at the end of each paragraph, however end of the article i realized that i made a wise decision…hehe
THANK YOU SO MUCH..!!

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@m!t August 10, 2010 at 12:09 pm

@ Yatharth
i think u didnt get quite hold of my comment.
i never criticized d review infact ive termed it as “overall the review is good.” But somewhere I think dat d publisher was inclined towards FZ right from the start.
What performance r u talking bout, dazzler is equally at par in terms of performance & breaking. so that doesn’t justifies FZ being rated more than dazzler inspite of lacking disc setup. FYI:Dazzler is not as bulbous as FZ, its light weight, nimble, easy to maneuver in city traffic, as quite goodd amount of torque(12.8 Nm jst 1.2 less than that of FZ), have gud accelerating power, is flickable & hav good top whack.
As u commented-“Also just cuz dazzler has a rear disc does not naturally mean that it has a better brake set up”. So, u need to say that rear disc set up is jst a add on & a technical gizmo without being practical in real use-a big LOL-lolo. Manufactures r nuts to bring in rear disc setup.
Initially you wont realize the proficiency of a Disc setup in short span. conventional drum brakes becomes sore as compared to disc brakes coz the bite effect of both disc as well as drum is good but eventually the drum starts to deteriorates its punch thereon. look at the value for money proposition, dazzler has got everything that needs to be as compared to FZ that too with better fuel efficiency and top whack(icing on the cake) so these 5 points difference doesnt makes out to be conclusive.
So, dear stop scribbling & accept d facts.

@ saad khan again a nice excellent write-up, good & descriptive.dont presume my comment to b a criticism its just d 5 point difference seems to b inconclusive which i`m highlighting here, where potential buyers will get in a limbo inspite of Honda bringing a complete upgraded package which lacked in unicorn.

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Pulsarboy August 10, 2010 at 12:12 pm

Frankly.. these two machines aren’t worth the money spent on them.. that after riding the P135LS, which is retailing at 60k. No offense to anyone or these bikes.. just my opinion. After all P135LS can smoke these two machines with ease.

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Rahul Shetty April 9, 2011 at 6:10 pm

im like 5.8 and i have rided in pulsar ls 135….trust me i felt like im sitting in a slice of drift wood…and i was feeling the whole working of the engine in my pants..!!

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ANIRUDDHA PATWARDHAN June 6, 2012 at 11:44 am

FLOCK OF SHEEP.WHEN THESE GUYS WILL BE READY TO TASTE THE REAL BIKING.BAJAJ IS KID TO YAMAHA AND HONDA

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fas August 10, 2010 at 1:11 pm

Well nice review but I think both bikes are targetted to entirely different people. The FZ to the youth mostly.

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Windhorse August 10, 2010 at 4:50 pm

@ Pulsarboy
I agree with you mate. I just bettered a FZ on the way home yesterday with my P135LS.
@ Aryan
I too haven’t seen many girls on FZs.

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siddharth August 10, 2010 at 5:50 pm

@windhorse: I guess, your P135LS might bettered FZ while it was slowing down!!….

@pulsarboy: as your name suggests you might be a pulsarmaniac…obviously you might support the P135LS….

Overall a good review buddy!!!
Happy riding!!

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Windhorse August 10, 2010 at 6:56 pm

@siddharth
You can check on any Motor bike blog that P135LS has better 0-60km/h timing and higher top speed.(if you don’t like to believe me that much)

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Pulsarboy August 10, 2010 at 7:01 pm

@Siddharth.. yes, I own a P135LS, but that doesn’t make my statement biased. Just, take these bikes & P135LS.. ride them back to back, see for yourself.

You can check with FZ-16 owners, they themselves will tell you that P135LS can smoke FZ, anytime. What I meant was.. same performance and a rear disc + monoshock, but you need to spend 15k over P135LS to get these bikes.

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aditya August 10, 2010 at 9:12 pm

@pulsarboy – Dude, p135ls is no where near FZ. Speed is not the only point considered while comparing bikes. p135 cannot smoke a Fz…i hav tried it myself..ok. and if we look at the other aspects too…fz is far better than the p135..
1) bajaj…not known for its reliability…every owner cries after 2-3 yrs.
2) low quality plastics and other parts used.
3)bad constumer care
4)bloody f!@#ing market tactics for selling their products.
whereas FZ,
1) superb stability (thanks to the widest radial tyre ever india and the widest fronk forts)
2) superb reliability…few people kno abt dis fact..lemme tell you…FZ’s front forks and rear shockers are taken from the FZ1 which is a 1000cc bike, and its chassis is taken from the FZ6 which is a 600cc bike crossing the 240kmph mark. now just imagine abt its rigidity and reliability and stableness.
5) gr8 styling(the 135ls looks like a milkman’s bike as far as my opinion is concerned..its nowhere in front of the fz..) glaring bold headlights, muscular fuel tank, wider rear tyre, and monoshock suspension etc etc etc.
6) dont wanna say anything much. the brand name YAMAHA says it all.

So, don ever compare any bajaj product wid a yamaha product….!!!

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shubham August 10, 2010 at 9:38 pm

i love the new sexy fz and if we talk about unicorn i must say…it can give a heavy challenge to fz.!!!!!!!

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laxmikanth venkatraman August 10, 2010 at 11:00 pm

@ @mit
1.2 nm of torque will definately gives a hell lot of difference. Braking of FZ might be better than dazzler. it has drum which equally gives out put like a disc… may be both should have been given 8.
@ pulsarboy:
P135LS has 4 valves dude with DTS-i… totally a different technology.. double the mechanism what FZ has….p135ls more intake of air with 2 spark plugs burning the fuel.. so it might eat a FZ which has more cc but only 2 valves and 1 spark plug..so nothing gr8 to talk about that ugly looking p135… i own a p150 UG 4.5… if my boy would had 4 valves… then p150 would eat all of them in this segment. Rahul Bajaj has no brian i think.. 135 ls was launched well bwfore p150 UG 4.5… he would have done something like 4 valve thing in this latest upgrade….

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Rahul Shetty April 9, 2011 at 6:04 pm

totally agree….pulsar and those apachez all r juz known for their raw power output….these bikez may take out yamahaz n hondaz in 150cc segmentz,… but where as if we see which last longer itz yamahaz n hondaz…n even my friendz own the pulsar 135ls n apache 180. thing is they met an accident and then they got repaired by the perticular company only….next thing we found was their chain n even engine sounds like an old plastic toy…really trust me whereas if we see these honda bikez like Shine and all have a quality engine not like pulsar which is on the top of the world beauty for the first 5 months…honda enginez are refined and transmissions are the smoothest thing you can fine next to jelly…so please these bikes are not manufactured for your idiotic RISK YOUR LIFE DRAGE RACE…itz manufactured for best experiance a coustomer can have and after 20 years of riding the owners can suggest other bike buyers for these company…not like pulsar and apaches like they have few months of beauty and left over life in oldage homes juzt want to get rid off….!!!

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laxmikanth venkatraman August 10, 2010 at 11:20 pm

@windhorse..
dude… believe what u realise… dont always believe in what blog says… its due to technology which p135ls could have bettered the FZ… even a TVS Flame can compete with FZ in 0-60 kmph drag race.. u know why… its the only bike with SOHC with 3 valves… here is where the word TORQUE comes in… FZ has the best torque than any bike in 135 to 160 segment. Even apache dont. p 135ls has best torque of 11.4 Nm @ 7500rpm..and FZ 13.6NM @ 6000rpm.. so u decide….
u love n believe what u possess… In public forum, facts are only considered.

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Lumen Shawn Lobo August 11, 2010 at 12:36 am

hi can the bike advice team have a comparo review of stunner cbf carb with any other bike of the same segment.. like the flame from tvs, discover,gladiator.. etc

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Madhu August 11, 2010 at 10:03 am

Nice Comparison done by Sadd

hey we are talking about FZ Vs Dazzler requesting all Pulsars to stay away

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Aryan August 11, 2010 at 10:05 am

@pulsarboy, i knw P-135 is capable of smoking a dazzler/FZ but only if u rattle the engine to its extreme limits may the other riders whom u smoked does not want to do the same with his engine…if u keep doing that u r killing ur engine to satisfy ur ego..every engine has its limitations
I would say respect ur bike and its limitations

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ranz January 19, 2012 at 11:00 am

very true… after a couple of years their ego will just tear up their bikes down.

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Lumen Shawn Lobo August 11, 2010 at 10:55 pm

hey guys…
finally got my new stunner cbf… silver black colored.. simply awesome…. I just wanted the bike advice team to have a comparo of cbf with any vehicle of it’s class.

Rode it for enough distances and i have got 62.3 kmpl with only 145 kms on the odo… so anticipating better fuel economy after the first service, provided I dont rip my bike…..

watse guys…

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Pulsarboy August 12, 2010 at 11:28 am

@Aryan.. Your sound really funny. You don’t need to rattle the engine to smoke a FZ with P135.. may be you will appreciate it when you do yourself. I tell you what.. even if the other rider tries.. he can’t get the better of P135 with FZ-16.. in a 0-60 sprint.

@Aditya.. so you mean, by default Bajaj products are not reliable and it’s only a huge stroke of luck that makes it possible that so many Pulsars on our roads are still running fine. is it so?? don’t try to tell me that Yamaha plonked in 1000 cc bike’s front forks in 150 cc bike.. you sound extremely insane when you say that. We all know that FZ-16 is inspired from FZ1.. it’s not a big secret.. it’s better if you realize that. To sum it up.. your post looks like a marketing brochure for FZ-16 and you pretty much talk like salesman of Yamaha. Other points you have mentioned are not even worth answering.. you sound like a frog in well. Did you ever wondered why Pulsar is still the top selling in 150 cc segment?? Pulsar’s reliability is proven beyond any doubt.. that’s why it’s selling well, otherwise Bajaj would have shut shop by now. Every company does marketing for it’s products.. including Yamaha.. may be you can help Yamaha with your bloody F###g marketing tricks, if you know them!!

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Pulsarboy August 12, 2010 at 1:28 pm

@Laxmikanth, you made a very good point there, with torque figures, but did you check the rear tyre size of both these bikes?? Sure FZ-16 has more torque, but it encounters way more friction than P135 due to it’s bigger rear tyre and p135 is atleast 5 kgs lighter when compared with FZ-16. Whether you believe it or not, P135 smoking FZ is a fact, you can try it on your own.. we are not forcing you to believe it.

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asdf August 12, 2010 at 2:39 pm

@ pulsar boy’ – sorry buddy i did try to smoke fz with pulsar 135 but failed to do so… Pulsar stands good for what it does with it’s 4 valve tech but as far torque is concerned fz rules undoubtly… I think apache 160 is the only bike that can give a fair competition to fz in technical terms… Technically as far 4 valve is concerned how about competing it with 4 valved r15..

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Pulsarboy August 12, 2010 at 10:18 pm

@asdf… not only Apache, P150 can also blast FZ-16 for a 0-60 sprint. The point is why is it so incredible for you guys to believe that P135 can smoke FZ-16!! i’m really surprised.. it has lesser weight.. almost same power.. lesser torque, but very thin rear tyre when compared to FZ-16!! which more than makes up for less torque. Just check any review of FZ-16 & P135LS.. and let me know which one was quoted having lower time for 0-60 sprint (independent reviews or comparos).. if you can’t better FZ with P135LS, may be you need to know how to rev this machine. So you want to compare 13.3 ps machine can compete with 17ps machine which weighs 4 kgs lesser and has more torque!! all of it just because both of them have 4-valve technology. May be you can go ahead and compare Splendor & Karizma.. don’t worry, both of them use 2-valve technology.

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laxmikanth venkatraman August 12, 2010 at 10:27 pm

@ pulsar boy..
i completely agree with ur points of friction. p135ls is a lighter bike than FZ 16. i said it could have smoked FZ 16.
i own a pulsar too… i can also justify here in this forum saying p150 can smoke FZ16, p135ls, apache or u name any bike. all are fine.

accept that FZ really rocks.. this machine created a trend presently what our pulsar did a decade ago. so respect it. but u know what.. BAJAJ dint analyse to re create that trend to hold its place.. though we see pulsar still tops in selling 150 segment but its figures are dropped drastically.

a decade or 8 years ago out of 10 150cc bikes, 9 were pulsar and 1 was HH CBZ. pulsar top selling.
NOW out of 10 may be 5 pulsar, 2 apache RTR, 2 FZs and 1 HH bike like CBZ or HUNK or what ever.. Still pulsar top selling.

SALES CHART going down but still top selling.

i will blindy say pulsar is the best. but how long?

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laxmikanth venkatraman August 12, 2010 at 10:36 pm

@ asdf
yaar please… i dont understand why pulsar was brought in to compare with a FZ here. pulsar is a legendary bike though.

and now R15. indian bike manufacturers will take atleast 2 more years to make a technology that equals R15′s mechanism.

please dont bring in a “leopard” when cats are fighting here. (i meant only bikes)

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Aditya Chatterjee August 12, 2010 at 11:06 pm

@Pulsarboy..
i don say dat d pulsar has lesser reliability. i want to say is that bajaj engines reliability is nothing as compared to yamaha engines reliability. speeed is not only considered. Dude, my maternal uncle is managing director in yamaha. ok. So, don ever think u kno d company yamaha better than me.and dont say that d other points i mentioned are not worth considering. they are considering at the first priority for a person hu has some real bike knowledge. not like u hu have a lil knowledge become egoistic wid dat only n bark like nething. neone hu buys a bike…considers all the following things that i mentioned. so, if U dont then just keep quite.
if yamaha lowers the prices (= bajaj) of its bikes no one can compete it. just to mentain its standard ovr these crab companies it has a lil higher price.

n u told me a yamaha salesman.
FYI i m a XII class science student. ok dude. So, get ur knowledge cleared before indulging urself into a bitter quarrel wid me..even if i may b younger than u…i kno tonnes more than u abt bikes.! :-)

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Aditya Chatterjee August 12, 2010 at 11:14 pm

@ pulsarboy—

considering ur comment abt a p135 smoking a FZ. it shows ur disturbed personality. u kno only speeding speeding and racing.
nothing more dan that.
all hu kno vry well abt bikes will comapare bikes according to all aspects./..not only through speeding only. hav u cn the aspects considered while comparing the 2 bikes in dis comparo.??
den only people said that its a gud review.
if they only had said abt speeding n blah blah (that u r cosidering)…this might not hav been a gud comparo.

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Aryan August 13, 2010 at 9:32 am

@pulsarboy, funny isn’t it we both find each other “funny”

i tend to thnk that u smoked not the FZ but the rider on FZ
I know u r proud of Bajaj products but how can u take out the tech specs
A bike gets smoked by various reasons like net weight of the bike and on the bike, engine life, and majorly r the riders ready for the drag…

all the bikes in the market just have minor diff in thr specs for a particular segment…i smoke FZ and pulsar with my Unicorn but i never say that loud bcoz i knw that my engine has few limitations…

b happy for now but wen a rider of ur type smokes u with a Dazzler or FZ u’ll come to terms…bcoz u seem to be very egoistic “No Offence”

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captain August 13, 2010 at 11:07 am

considering the comfort of riding unicorn and honda’s beautiful noiseless engine quality dazzler is far better than fz

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asdf August 13, 2010 at 4:00 pm

@ laxmikanth – yup bro – my bad.. Agree with u…
@ aditya and aryan- agreed each and every words pal…

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Pulsarboy August 13, 2010 at 5:53 pm

@Aditya.. so in case your uncle is MD of Bajaj.. i’m sure you would have modified your post to praise P135..and BS FZ-16.. I never said that I know tons about bikes are all about bikes, that shows how much you are trying to satisfy your ego.

@Aryan.. it’s not a rider smoking other rider..or the bike smoking other bike. You try both bikes on your own.. and then see the timing. No offence mate.. but you sound so ignorant. Just read any review to get the timings.. you will understand that P135 manages to edge out FZ-16 in 0-60 sprint. If you can’t may be you are poor in comparing numbers!!

@Laxmikanth.. actually mate, Pulsar sales are not going down.. if you take absolute numbers. Yes you could have spotted 9 pulsars out of 10 150cc’s.. that was when there was no alternative apart from Unicorn.. Now a days.. with so many options from all top contenders.. still it’s maintaining top spot is a big achievement itself. P150 may not be necessarily the best bike, but it’s perceived as best/more relevant bike by buyers.

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Aditya Chatterjee August 13, 2010 at 9:17 pm

@ pulsrboy
thats ur thinking folks. if u think that way. be that.
but the truth is truth. Yamaha has proven reliability in all bikes. it can without any effort kick the butts of any bajaj or tvs bike. and in case mo uncle wud hav been MD of bajaj then also i wudnt hav gone for it..k.?? my relative is a MD in that company doesnt matter to me, what matters to me is the bike i m getting. i m not at all satisfying my ego, I am trying to cool down ur false ego abt bajaj.
BAJAJ IS JUST A SMALL ANT IN FRONT OF YAMAHA….

@asdf – thnx a lot pal…truth is truth..some can understand it some cant. i can just tell them, those hu cannot understand, rest depends on them only. what say?

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apache August 14, 2010 at 1:07 pm

i have seen u all comparing fz and pulsar but i havent seen comparing tvs apache the rtr techno will make u fly through the air

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siddharth August 14, 2010 at 2:45 pm

@aditya: I totally agree with you buddy…..you said the truth…and people like Mr.Pulsarboy seems to be a totally sick egocentric person who just blabbers whatever in his favor to comply his ego.

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samyyy June 5, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Abbee saale bike hai kayy aeroplane….:)

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siddharth August 14, 2010 at 2:49 pm

@aryan: Good consideration’s, the reasoning which you have done is worth commenting…Good one mate!..you sound perspicacious! but,this post is getting deteriorated by Mr.Pulsarboy with his unrealistic comments…I hope someone calm’s him down!
Ride safe!!

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Mahavir Kothari August 14, 2010 at 5:22 pm

Dear All,

Quotes from some website

http://motoroids.com/features/bajaj-pulsar-135-vs-yamaha-fz-16-comparo.html

1. The FZ definitely has a much superior aspiration value as compared with the Pulsar. It looks bigger and more imposing with aggressive streetfighter looks – it can arguably be called the best looking 150 on Indian roads.

2. in terms of straight line performance at least. It’s quicker off the block, and the revvier, peakier engine ensures that the lighter machine gets propelled to a higher top speed than the FZ too. Let’s do bit of number crunching to substantiate our observations. The FZ’s 0-60 sprint time is 5.67 seconds, 0.4 seconds slower than the Pulsar. The 135 opens the gap further on the FZ as the two bikes advance to the 80 km/h mark. The Pulsar even with its smaller engine goes on to post a higher top speed of the two, showing a speedo indicated 125km/h before running out of breath.

The FZ, on the other hand, starts feeling harassed after the 100km/h mark. Top whack isn’t something the FZ prides itself upon. The engine is uncharacteristically lazy for a Yamaha and doesn’t like being forced into going above the 6500 rpm. Put it in a higher gear, and it’ll happily pull you along without any signs of splutter or stagger. Push it to the limit, and you’ll know it’s displeased.

3. All in all the Pulsar 135 really has the 150cc leader licked in terms of performance and handling. However, the FZ still rules in terms of street presence, aesthetics, straight line stability, refinement and desirability.

Everybody has different opinion but for the performance part we must agree for pulsar 135 LS because its something which is proved.

Thanks,

Regards,

Mahavir Kothari

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Mahavir Kothari August 14, 2010 at 5:48 pm

Dear All,

One more quote about 0-60 sprint

http://www.bikeindia.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77:an-indian-at-a-sushi-party&catid=41:shootout&Itemid=62

“The LS goes from 0-60km/h in just 5.18 seconds and has a genuine top whack of 112km/h! Several 150cc owners will be reading these figures over and over again.”

Thanks,

Regards,

Mahavir Kothari

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@M!T August 14, 2010 at 7:31 pm

hey bajaj might b a ant when compared wit yamaha`s technology but while looking @ yamaha`s portfolio in India what they r providing to us.why jst u ppl keep on bragging Bajaj just coz its a Indian manufacturer.let it hav some time to grown & compete with international standards.we must b proud of what our home grown manufacturers are providing to Indian customers(be it Bajaj or TVS).They know what money means to us.they are aware of our hard earn money & providing d best possible bike @ reasonable price.their products are well competent with respect to foreign counterparts.I do agree bajaj lacks quality isuues but it has given some mind boggling products @ throw away prices.jst comapre a 220 cc machine @ 70k whereas a 150 cc(R15) @ 1 lac.so its obvious ur getting a good(i wont say d best)coz R-15`s cost is justified(no offence to R-15)but are we really going to use R-15 as a racing tool on Indian potholed equipped roads.p-135 is a tech laden bike except FI,liquid cooled engine, diamond frame chassis etc but it has also got 4 valve engine, split seats-handles, digital meter,knee recess tank, gas assisted rear shock absorbers,decent handling, mileage of around 55 kpl, top speed of 115kph.still people will criticize coz its a bajaj product. i dont understand why this is happening always.there was almost negligible market for yamaha after rx-100 & there was no liking for yammie products, which were termed/assumed as unreliable & high maintenance bikes but all of a sudden d scenario changed when yammie brought in FZ & R-15.
even after 64 years of independence its pathetic to see that we are still under the influence of foreign products & criticizing home grown manufacturers jst coz they are DESI made brands..
a big shame for all of us.

PS: no offence to any 1, only my personal views…
PEACE!

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Quality January 6, 2011 at 7:41 pm

Hey! no one is giving comments on Honda. Honda is the largest 2 wheeler manufacturer in the world. The quality, especially the engine which is the heart of the bike is superb. The reliability of the honda engines are very high compare to all other manufacturers.

one thig that we have to accept is we Indians are very good when it comes to culture & tradition but when it comes to the quality, we are not good. Its the Japanese & german who give importance for quality & leading the world.
So please let us accept only good quality products by which manufacturer of India will be forced to produce good quality products.

As for as the Bajaj & TVS is concerned its really produces worst quality engines which lasts only for 2 to 3 years after which you have to go on spending to get it repaired.

As for as the engine quality is concerned in India according to me Honda stands no 1 followed by Suzuki 2nd, Hero Honda 3rd, Yamaha 4th & last will be the Bajaj & TVS.

So please accept the reality which the whole world has accepted. If you want a reliable & low maintance bike go for Honda or Suzuki where the importance is given for the quality & reliability followed by Hero honda & Yamaha.
But if you consider only the price, specifications, looks then it is Bajaj & TVS where you have to spend a lot after 2 to 3 years for repair.
I myself had 2 Pulsar & 1 Platina which was having the worst engine compare to Honda or Suzuki products.
Every expert accept that the best current 150cc engine in India is still Honda Unicorn which has highly refined engine.

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Lumen Shawn Lobo August 14, 2010 at 11:21 pm

guys.. I agree that yamaha is making it’s mark in the Indian market at present. but what about the shit it rolled out with the products like Enticer, Libero and the Fraser… oh god.. I see the owners crying about their bikes…. Hopethis is not the situation of the present FZ and R15 owners in some 5 yrs.

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Aditya Chatterjee August 15, 2010 at 11:07 am

@ Siddharth –
thnx a ton siddharth. this should b understood by pulsarboy.
but i don think hee has that much brain to understand it. PEACE

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Aditya Chatterjee August 15, 2010 at 11:20 am

@ amit
dude, while buying a machine, anybody will not c that the company is Indian or not. they will only see the bike they are getting. and coming on p220 vs r15. r15 clearly justifies its 1 lakh benchmark. it has proven reliability and above standard quality. every bit and curves of the bike involved peer engineering and aerodynamics. read about the wind tunnel experiment of R15. u will get to kno abt the fairing is not a shit piece of plastic lik in p220. r15 was designed by the same engineers of yamaha r1 and r6 also the r125. if u compare the technologies used yamaha r15 includes all the modern and latest technologies used in motogp bikes, like, electronic liquid cooled engine, 6-speed transmission, fuel injection, DAISIL cylinder, wind cutting front fairing, mikuni 29, deltabox frame and etc. etc. etc.
it has several sensors and ECUs which monitor the working of the engine. the deltabox frame is already a proved one in front of the world for its regidity and balance (its already presend in r1,r6,r125). All international light weight materials are used in r15. ALL THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE ABSENT IN p220. and it costs u 83k and r15 costs u 1lakh8thousand.IT COMPLETELY JUSTIFIES ITS PRICE TAG. IMAGINE WHAT IF R15 COMES LOADED WITH A 220CC ENGINE????

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@M!T August 15, 2010 at 12:44 pm

@ aditya
m not comparing P-220 with R-15.AS I`VE CLEARLY MENTIONED THAT “YAMAHA HAS JUSTIFIED ITS PRICE TAG ON R-15″.m @ people criticizing bajaj products inspite bringing with some splendid machines like pulsar 135 or say p-220(which easily smokes a bike worth 1.15 lacs)that sates the prowess of Indian manufactures.yamaha is in this industry since ages when as comapred to bajaj.look @ what bajaj has achieved since past 2 decades.a 70 thousand bike smoking a tech laden 1lac 10 thousand bike….
i see pulsars which are 7 years old still running quiet efficiently on our Indian roads, still there are some who will cry foul @ bajaj.
@ above post`s inspite of pulsar-135 smokin many of the 150cc contenders in terms of top whack,mileage….still many of us will have a heated argument not favoring bajaj.
i dont know why dont u accept a bike thats well patented n give the creditability it deserves toooo. always they will start bragging coz its just a Bajaj or a TVS bike.
its time to grow n give respect to our desi brands who r are giving a tough fight to japs.
m not here to criticize japs(honda/yamaha) here coz they are far ahead in terms of readability, refinement, fell factor, technology but jst want to highlight that Bajaj/TVS(without any foreign subsidiary) are none the less.

i jst only want to say that japs take us for a toss when it comes to pricing(say FAZER-85 k so called tourer on road, Dazzler-73 k on road) as comapred to APACHE 180,pulsar 180 which comes in the similar price bracket with a 180 cc engine.

PS: P-220/Bajaj v/s yamaha-R-15/honda will be a never ending debate.so, dont want to get into all this.
I DO RESPECT R-15 FOR WHAT ITS CAPABLE OF & ITS NOT A COMPAPRE TO P-220(in terms of technology)

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@M!T August 15, 2010 at 12:48 pm

errr…forgot to post

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY.
Jai Hind
(BE INDIAN, PROUD TO BE INDIAN)

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Pulsarboy August 17, 2010 at 8:52 am

Aditya, Siddartha.. enough of I scratch your back.. you scratch mine.. pat yourselves.. and go pat Yamaha.. for making FZ-16, but end of the day.. remember that it can’t compete with a P135LS in terms of performance .. not in terms of top speed.. not in terms of 0-60 sprint.. if you are ok with closing your eyes to these facts or lack of brains to understand plain numbers then so be it. There are n number of reviews comparing these bikes.. just check any of them. You guys don’t have any facts to mention.. and quickly turn to train your guns on me.. but in fact you don’t have any points to talk about P135.. you just waffle along the lines of bajaj’s unreliability.. Yamaha is too great and so on.. try to be objective and don’t get emotional with Yamaha..just because your uncles are working there. Just compare these two products and what they has to offer for the price.. then you will agree that P135LS is the better of these two.

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Aditya Chatterjee August 17, 2010 at 1:47 pm

ok dude. now stop this debate kinda thing. i m much bored off wid this now. CHILLAX!!

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Antony August 17, 2010 at 9:16 pm

Both fz16 and dazzler are not proper executive/commuter/family bikes. Both bikes are meant for youngsters. But both are not sporty, as they do not have lean-forward seating posture. They have straight commuter seating posture, but are not commuter bikes. An executive/family bike should have full chain cover. Half chain cover is dangerous for pillion, especially ladies, as clothes can get stuck in chain and also oil and dirt from chain will make clothes dirty. Dazzler has no saree guard, so ladies cannot sit sideways. fz16 has optional saree guard, but the saree guard does not have footrest. Dazzler and fz16 both also lack kicker.

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vishal pitale August 20, 2010 at 12:09 pm

I need to by a bike i have see dazzler & fzs plz give me a right.Bike to take

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Goutam January 29, 2011 at 1:10 pm

For looks, go for FZ. And everything else Dazzler is the king.

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Anil Anupam August 22, 2010 at 9:09 am

Whatever the comparision be all about but bajaj/pulsar does get noticed.lol

It was a good review by Saad as expected but I think the photography needs to be improved.
That will make the article more attractive.

Regarding the verdict :
Fz is more appealing
Dazzler is more practical

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venom August 31, 2010 at 2:36 pm

fz n dazzler both lack in initial pick up…

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Dani September 3, 2010 at 6:20 pm

FZ Look is rock to me, I am from Indonesia but you guys should proud more with what your country can create , Bajaj Tvs, Tata and others use your own product so the product can move forward for your satisfaction, I envy your country, here in Indonesia we do not have Indonesia motorcycle brand all belon to JAP and others, you should proud even bajaj came to our country and it proven your product reliability untill present

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Karthik September 9, 2010 at 3:45 pm

i say the older Unicorn is better looking than the Dazzler, also it doesn’t beat the lord FZ in any except the mileage…
FZ is the true lord of the Streets…

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SomeFacts September 20, 2010 at 11:06 pm

@Pulsarboy
Hey Pulsar fans! watch this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sLmSt7sVJo&has_verified=1

Now.. Im sure that woudnt happen with a bigger tire and more stability.. (I`ll spend my money in something good and safe)thats why I`ll buy the FZ =)

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innocent devil September 25, 2010 at 7:06 pm

pulsar 135 ws nwhr near to ds comparison.. bt noticed smthng jst mins ago.. its jst dragged in.. i mean no1s tlkin abt dazzler nemore all m seein z p135.. lol see? thts hw it z.. u can love it.. u can hate it.. bt u can never ignore it..
PEACE..1;)

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joko October 2, 2010 at 9:58 am

Why the picture of dazzler take from outdoor and FZ indoors… :)
dazzler picture looks dirty.

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Mack October 4, 2010 at 4:32 am

@shubham — well said dude

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Mack October 4, 2010 at 4:35 am

@ pulsrboy do you know that a 20 years old RX100 can leave a p135ls far behind and you wont get to taste the smoke either

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madhu October 5, 2010 at 1:18 am

below said things are story and it doesn’t resembles or based on any body.

again no offence please. Coz its just for lol

“To whomsoever it may concern M/S hajaj products are the one and only best in the universe.

Razor 150 will spooke even the mach50 aircraft.

I have a hajaj razor B135lols, last night I smooked out a UFO flying sauser because my razor B135lols is having 4Blades so its speed is lazer ka razer speed.

With my razor B135LOLs just a blip on the throat will make me reach heaven in fraction of seconds

so here by I declare that my razor B135lols is better than any product at any time.

With very little fuel it will smoke out all that wasn’t manufactured by hajaj.

Yours hajajly

Hajaj razor 135 boys”

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joko October 5, 2010 at 5:40 am

@SomeFacts… The accident was caused because the rider is too dirty to the edge of the track and slid, all motors can experience it …

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Rahul October 10, 2010 at 3:25 pm

@shubham– that was awesome dude!! i agree that bajaj is like f**k@d ones. no comparison to fz16 or Yamaha, YES YAMAHA!!

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ram October 12, 2010 at 7:20 pm

Hi biker dudes,

It is a long query. i am really sorry for that. cant help it man… i am in that kinda confusion.. fazer owners, pls go through my query & respond …

-I am 22 from chennai and i was looking for a good looking, comfortable bike for the past one month which can be used for 60 – 70 km daily for office commute in city-highway (75-25%)conditions.

- i am planning to keep the bike for a minimum of 8 yrs. so the machine has to be reliable in the longer run which left me an option between honda dazzler or yamaha fazer as the other engines are not known for reliability.

- i dont want the bike to feel outdated after 10 yrs. so it should have a modern look.

-the bike service & maintanence should not burn a hole in my pocket in the longer run.

- considering fazer, i have heard that paid services are very costly. is that true or just a myth.?

-If i dont use my fazer for a couple of months in the longer run, will it affect the engine & also create starting problem?

-in fazer , pillion comfort is a major worry for me. my mom will be accompanying me occassionally. since we dont have a foot rest integrated with the saree guard, sitting sideways for 60 to 90 mins at a stretch will be a problem?? or do we have a foot rest available in the market which can be fitted separately.? & is it possible to extend the seat at rear end with some extra cushion to increase the space for d pillion? or can we put a split grab like in apache or pilsar, for pillion grip?

- wat about the mileage figures if i keep my speed within 70 kmph & to a max of 85kmph occassionally??
expecting ur replies guys…

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deadlocke82 October 15, 2010 at 4:00 pm

when it comes to power, fuel eff,especially the price…ill go for honda dazzler….im a cb twister owner here in the philippines…smooth riding…why is that yamaha lack of fuel efficiency???

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deadlocke82 October 15, 2010 at 4:02 pm

in my cb110 twister…i go for about 72-74 kl per liter …lower displacement means more efficient in honda…

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Thomas November 5, 2010 at 12:05 pm

Very good comparison. This is what i was looking for. I ride 44kms to (22kms) and from (22kms) office (totally 44kms), for long rides, I guess Honda Unicorn Dazzler is better than Fz. Conclusion was wonderful.

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Antony November 19, 2010 at 2:57 pm

Guys! Stop disrespecting Indian brands here. Yamaha and honda might be big companies, but what they are giving us in India until recently (libero, gladiator, Ybr, shine) are second-grade bikes, except the Fz and R15. Even old unicorn lacked many features, but was still priced higher than competition and hence initially didnt sell. Remember, Honda was the last to bring alloy wheels. So, indian bike makers like bajaj and TVS, who first introduced alloy wheels and digital speedo in India, should get some credit for forcing yamaha and honda to upgrade their products.

I agree, the Fz might be technically superior and also a better handling bike in city due to high torque and monocross supension, but what about the practicality like pillion riding and price? At the same time, bikes like the old unicorn, gs150r, and CBZx are better for long distance rides and daily commuting even with pillion. These bikes can anyday smoke the Fz on say a longer 50-km race. The Apache RTR and Bajaj pulsar are in a league of their own, offering powerful city riding as well as decent long-distance performance and practicality at a lower price. But bajaj needs to improve on reliability is also a fact, and they are definitely better nowadays.

I think both TVS and Bajaj need to bring in a 150 cc bike with monosuspension and rear disc brakes at Fz price to settle the issue. Also, what if gs150r and old unicorn get rear disc brakes. We would be spoilt for choice, surely.

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Antony November 19, 2010 at 11:17 pm

Can we get a side-by-side photo of the Fz16, dazzler, and Apache, just to get the size comparison. The dazzler actually seems smaller than stunner also.

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Nagamani November 22, 2010 at 5:45 pm

Hi Friends I am planning to my get my first bike.My budget is 75,000.I need a 150cc bike which will be reliable, comfortable,stylish and also good mileage one.My choices are Pulsar150,Unicorn/Gs150r and Dazzler.I opted to go for honda Unicorn Dazzler though pulsar is a common one on road and have some reliability issues and unicorn/Gs150 lacks in style and pick up.But my friends said that Dazzler won’t suit my height as I am a 6 foot guy.Please consider me as I am a newbie in biking.
Awaiting some good suggestions guys….

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dani December 1, 2010 at 8:03 pm

here a lot of comment came that FZ was Photogenic but when you see in person you know how it just photogenic, different with dazzler, not on pic but when you see in person yu will see how good the bike is

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Goutam Bhadra December 3, 2010 at 9:19 am

I think,honda and unicorn is totally different thing.Dazler is a soundless beast,smooth,an unique quality whereas FZ….?Don’t consider any company’
bike with Honda?Honda is a world no.-1 company.you mad guy’s.why you compare other company’s with honda.Honda knows the quality.who used honda only they enjoy the superior power,pickup,…..etc.Please use Honda always and forever.

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Mack December 3, 2010 at 1:07 pm

Hi……Goutam…you ride Honda and be happy….honda no 1…lol..u joking……cause of FZ and r15…u’ll see some good bikes in India 2011..they started it Yes..YAMAHA…and sure u guys look for good mileage..so forget…YAMAHA..is.not for you people:)

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MNL December 24, 2010 at 10:28 am

Its a good n unbiased comparo…… Bt most of da comments r totly out of context…. Da bikes compared here wer fz16 n d dazzler so comment regardin da comparo guys…

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TVS January 15, 2011 at 12:37 am

fz s a stupid bike.it shudn even be compared with tvs star.tvs n bajaj rocks 4ever.also honda does.fz s just waste of money.i own fz but i wanna sell it back to buy apache or dazzler

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TVS January 15, 2011 at 12:42 am

ALSO FZ has got a worst headlight dat resembles a cockroach head.everyone simply dont sing hosanna 4 fz

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LAKSHAY January 16, 2011 at 3:40 am

Though bajaj pulsar is a good bike in terms of performance still it is called CHOR bike in india…
Police stop all pulsars and challan them the most (its a fact) coz of it being infamous for being used in chain snatching.Cost of maintainence is also very high after 3 years.It has become so common on roads nowdays that no one wants to buy it.
Every person doesnt want a bike for top speed only.It should have handling,looks most important which is certainely lacking in pulsars.I would certainely go for a Yamaha for its quality.
So Bajaj owners its just that u cant bear your machines insult here on this blog thats why you are blabbering.

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john January 25, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Good job. . . Don’t think about worst guys comments. . . I had FZ only… But i love all motorcycles… keep it up dude…

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supey February 4, 2011 at 11:04 pm

i prefer dazzler
Honda…and Honda….
i ain’t care with others opinion
Dazzler still better than FZ

he in Indonesia, Dazzler is New Mega Pro

FZ is Byson

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Frosty April 12, 2011 at 3:24 pm

dazzler dont have ENGINE KILLER switch…and not e1 Pilot light….and not e1 Kick start….whr as FZ has it!

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abhinesh February 14, 2011 at 10:24 pm

hi to all well i thought i would jump in to the battle of the bikes now !

nyway as far as i kno ppl here mention about bajaj p135 being a milkman’s vehicle blah blah and all non sense about quality issues well for ur facts and figures FZ has a 14 bhp and p135 has a 13.5 bhp and 13 kgs lesser than the FZ1

u can have ur calculations done and for all out there p135 has 4 value llowing u to rip and rip for long its a bike thats been just underestimated by other bike fans i have myself smoked the FZ by a far diff maybe u can tell tat that the FZ was slowing down but i will say the FZ caught up with me after i slowed down !

Adios guys wanna prove it that FZ is better a race is the best option !

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Titas Dev February 15, 2011 at 3:13 am

I am a new bee as a biker. Bought dazzler as almost with zero knowledge and so far i am so happy. I cannot compare it with other as its true every bike has an speciality what others not. If you want to use one bike my advice is go for that what your heart says.
Lastly about dazzler…. Simply rock….Its a part of my life now…

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DjFrosT March 2, 2011 at 1:27 am

Acc. to my friends
dazzler beats Fz in top speed and after 0-50 fz is slow while dazzler has great stability after 60-90. for long rides dazzler is the best…just drive it!
after 50 dazzler just move ahead of fz
fz-s radial tyre are awesome!! i mean it
both the bikes are made by japanese and indian engineers…fz n dazzler are better than pulsar, apache and hero bikes

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Julius gomes March 21, 2011 at 1:54 am

i just love FZ16 this article has made it even better, whoever has made this article is superb, exelent article, better grammer & conclusions are even better…. cheers !!!!!!

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Jeffrey March 26, 2011 at 7:58 am

Hi there. Nice review! Do you have any news from india if honda will release the dazzler here in the Philippines? The FZ 16 is already out in our market. Thank you.

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Siddharth April 12, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Wat the hellllllllll! Fz is nowhere near to dazzler. Dazzler is having a very good look and sporty but if u will see fz, it feels as if parts of different bikes have been put up together. What an ugly look. The power and refinement of dazzler is far better than fz. I think yamaha has made worst bike in the history with fz.
No comments abt pulsar – largest selling indian bike.

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Harish April 12, 2011 at 5:57 pm

Wow Siddharth,

I dont want to get in to your quarrel, but I was just amazed to see your comment on FZ16. Anyone from a Kid to Granny would love the FZ in first sight. Dazzler is just a hype name given to that 150cc bike from Honda. What is Dazzling in it? just looks like a Twister with some more plastics.

Boss have your eyes check 1st and if checked, then do have your Brain checked.
Dont ever compare FZ16 with any other bike in terms of looks.

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knott April 15, 2011 at 2:44 am

dude….fz is better only for looks….not perfomance…dazzler just dazzles FZ in race track

Frosty April 12, 2011 at 3:44 pm

i think….pulsar 150, 180 is better thn fz and dazzler…people say pulsar bikes are accident prone….
pulsar has high power…torque and speed thn honda’s and yamaha…wen new kidies speed up this bikes blindly & they meet accident[bwt it doesnt mean tht pulsr r accident prone]…accidentz can e1 happen in yamaha’s and honda’s i knw a guy who died in accident and he had fz

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karthikkanthan May 10, 2011 at 12:31 am

i would ve definitely preferedr fz over dazzler if fz ‘s rear end & pillion seats were not this kinda sleek & narrow.. both fz & dazzler comes in limited colours..fz in black/red while dazzler in golden(not dazzling but contempt)/black/red…why not white??both would look good in white..or im ready for a white dazzler

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karthikkanthan May 10, 2011 at 12:34 am

can any one suggest me how much would it cost for paintjob of converting a new black or golden dazzler in to white >?

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vijay August 22, 2011 at 6:44 pm

hey, chalo man lete ki dazzler fz se bahot achi hai. Lekin wo gadi kis kam ki jo manpasand colour me na mile. Mai pune ke 3 se 4 showroom me ja ke aya. Waha pe sirf black or golden hi available hai. Mere jankari ke nusar dazzler ko aye 1 sal hi hua rahega. Or colour he nahi hai or koi thik tarah se batata bhi nahi silver colour kab aaye ga. To abhi ye zagda to bad ki bat hai ki fz atchi hai ya dazzler. Cb Shine ko 3 se 4 mahine ka waiting, cb unicorn ko bi waiting or dazzler mai sirf 2 hi colour available ye kya hai sab ? Ab to muze na chahte huye bhi koi dusri gadi kharidni padegi. Kya kare kuch bhi samaz nai raha hai ?

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vinay .c.r October 24, 2011 at 10:56 pm

dazzler is the best…on the road fz,pulsar150and 180 can’t take over the dazzler….

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Swamykant December 26, 2011 at 12:37 pm

I love Yahama Bikes. The only big drawback is the fuel efficiency.

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dazzy April 16, 2012 at 10:58 pm

any fz will have a bad fuck to my dazzler…my dazzy fuck 120mph in doubles

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abhilash June 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm

My head said HONDA and my heart said YAMAHA,

I feel I’ve done the right thing going with my heart!!

YES! YAMAHA

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