Karizma ZMR Vs. Yamaha R15
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As we all know that Ninja, the quarter liter sports bike for India, with all those tech savvy features that can be used as a tourer and as well as a track tool is sadly priced as high as taking a personal loan and paying EMIs for the forth coming years. What we have a choice is now to narrow to two of the rivals that can be at least half the way affordable and can give the thrill that most of the Indian bikes can only dream of, yes the Yamaha R15 and the all new Hero Honda ZMR. Speaking of both the bikes the story turns at all the twisters revealing what both the bikes are capable of.

Let’s start about the R15; the bike comes from a legendary Japanese hand that makes the R series of bikes which rule the world as well as the tracks. The R15 sports a 150cc liquid cooled 4 valve SOHC engine that churns out 17PS of raw power at 8500 rpm with a torque of 15Nm at 7500 rpm. The bike features to be a first four stroker to have a six speed gearbox in India that is a boon for tourers and thrill seekers and also has an engine that will never run out of breath. The engine is powered by a fuel injector that eliminates the hassles of adjusting the air fuel mix when climbing hills as done on a conventional carb and also gives a long stand during touring.
The proud and the boasting factor of the bike is that the bike just weighs 131kg and with the above mentioned specs, the bike is all game to set the road or track on fire. The story of dual suspensions at the rear is just a history at Yamaha now, as they have given the best monocross suspension to the R15 which also adds style to substance. The electrical is a full DC system and boasts a twin headlamp as seen on the R series. The bike is a real fun to ride at high speeds and with a great speed comes great stopping power, the bike comes with disc brakes at both front and back from the legendary manufacturer Nissin that puts a stop to speed from the word brake. Although the bike is a bit sluggish at the lower rpm’s the bike compensates this by giving the rider a nerve chilling experience at higher rpm’s. The point is that the bike is capable of doing 120 kmph without any struggle and can be so much fun to ride.
Now looking at the rival Hero Honda has launched the all new ZMR that has come with almost all the goodies that the R15 sports about. Let’s see what the ZMR has: the bike comes with a full body fairing similar to the R15 and has a love me or hate me looks. The bike also has a signature all new front fairing that resembles the Suzuki GS150R, although Hero Honda claims that it’s not a design that is inherited for the Suzuki but for the onlookers it’s just a bigger version of the same.
Coming to the engine the bike still has the same capacity engine with 223cc 4 stroke single cylinder OHC with an addition of an oil cooler and with the added advantage of the FI. To be precise the ZMR carries the legendary PGM-FI that Honda has developed for it’s bigger sibilings. The power has increased by three quarter of a grain that churns out 17.6 BHP at 7000 rpm with a torque of 18.35 Nm at 6000 rpm. The company also claims that the bike can do a 0-60 KMPH in 3.7 seconds with a top whack of 126 KMPH.
Although the bike’s oil cooler cannot be compared to a liquid cooled engine but it’s decent enough with a nice punch that cools the engine better than the air cooled one. The ZMR also has both front and rear disc brakes that also comes from Nissin which has pretty good stopping power. The ZMR has been equipped with 5 step adjustable iGRS shocks that adds comfort for long touring. The bike also has the same rim size as it’s older brother that makes touring a walking on the cake and to add the icing is the tubeless tires that comes equipped with the bike. The bike with all the new features also comes with an additional weight tag that weighs 159 kgs which is nearly 20 kgs heavier when compared with the R15 that makes the R15 lightest and also the fastest. The ZMR is also packed with the best looking speedo console that actually scores over the R15 console with a welcome message to the rider which actually feels warm when turning the ignition on. Hero Honda have also given the ZMR the all new clip-ons that are real wide, with a relaxed seating position which is a boon for tourers. To sum up the bike, the Tourer has become a better Tourer.
Now coming to the pros and cons of both the bikes, lets see how the Yamaha R15 scores over the Karizma ZMR:
- Lightweight – R15 is nearly 20 kgs lighter than the ZMR that makes this the fastest and easy to handle bike.
- Handling – The R15 is proven the best handling bike in India with the DeltaBox frame that reminds one of the track days as soon as they start riding it.
- Flickability – As lightest the bike it’s easily flickable in the traffic and in track situations.
- Tunnel Tested – The bike has gone through vigorous wind tunnel testing that eliminates aerodynamic resistance and just cuts through air like a knife.
- Liquid Cooled Engine – The bike comes with a liquid cooled engine that cools the engine by means of a radiator that holds coolant and a fan that kicks in when the engine reaches high temperatures that provides the best way to cool an engine.
As Hero Honda has launched the ZMR after much anticipation, there are also some pretty good features that the R15 misses out and where the ZMR scores
- Ergonomics – The ZMR has high raised clip-ons with a good relaxed riding posture that gives a tourer the best bike in India for touring without putting much stress physically.
- Wheels – The bike boasts 18 inch wheels that makes touring a pleasure and also reduces the stress on the engine.
- Higher Capacity Engine – The 223 c.c engine over the 150 c.c engine has the advantage of some good head room for touring with pillion during which the engine still retains it’s relaxed characteristics.
- Chain Cover: The bike also comes with a closed chain cover that eliminates the need for cleaning the chain once a week for tourers, where they need to just lube it once and shut it, the chain cover takes all the dust and abuse leaving the chain working fine for the next thousands of kilometers. This is mandatory for Indian road/dust conditions.
- LED Lamps: The bike also has LED tail lamps that conveys the riders braking skills better at a far distance and also saves battery power.
To sum up the comparison, both the Yamaha R15 as well as the Karizma ZMR has equivalent points to justify their price tag and it lies in the hands of the rider who wants to choose in between a screamer and a proven tourer.
- Ram
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35 comments
BikeBhp.com on November 9, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Both the bikes belong to different categories all together, it is not only difficult but also unjust to compare the two. However, so far class and the art of automobile engineering is concerned I think Yamaha R15 is a masterpiece and can be considered as collectors item, the way Yamaha has summed up all best possible technological goodies in a 150cc engine it only depicts the technological advancement of Yamaha.
Raghav on November 9, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Zmr sucks man , r15 rocks
handsome_rob on November 9, 2009 at 10:53 pm
a good comparison.. but y not include the p220.. it’s also in the same class(excluding the carb)..
CarAdvice on November 9, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Both bikes are so similar. But once you see the Ninja in flesh, the price is well justified.
Karthik on November 10, 2009 at 7:24 am
Nice Review Ram.
But I personally feel that the R15 is a better bike, and that the Karizma has just had a facial done, not much of a change on the performace front ! People had really high expectations that the bike would have a complete upgrade, but are quite dissapointed…
Yamaha R15 rocks…
Raghav on November 10, 2009 at 9:34 am
Ninja is d baap of bikes in its class . n worth 3 lakhs .
Dinesh on November 10, 2009 at 10:21 am
Im in love with R15, Yamaha rocks
Ady on November 10, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Heya guys
i juzz came 4m HH showroom they gave me test drive of karizma
well according to my views guys when i touch 85 then bike start vibration like bike needs 1 more gear but its already on 5th gear and when and when i’m gonna touch 90 like it tooks around 10 seconds from 85 to 90
bike looks from front is too good but bad from back side
main thing is that guys u r gonna purchase bike for ur own purpose
if u want to go for racing then r15 is awesome
but if u want to show ur bike in a city then buy karizma/apache/fz/pulsar
and always compare bike with same segment
CC
Price
and when i drive r15 i can’t express my feelings
when i touch 100kmph no vibrations and handling is too much smooth n from 110 to 0 hardly in 3 seconds without loosing handling
guys karizma Zmr costs 91k
and Yamaha r15 costs 97k
Top speed of karizma is 126kmph claimed by HH
Top Speed of Yamaha R15 is 135kmph claimed by Yamaha
r15 is complete bike with new technology brand image
and moreover yamaha ruled when they launched yamaha 350 with 30bhp
and in India rule they can launch bike 150 with maximum 17 bhp
and yamaha r15 europian model 150 cc with 21 bhp
CarAdvice on November 10, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Yamaha rocks but it could do with more power!
Shambhu on November 10, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Ram, that was a nice review. Yes, as others have pointed out it is a bit of a disappointment from HH since there is no change to the engine and power even after change to Fuel Injection and oil cooler. Also, we are missing the action from Honda and Suzuki in this segment. Any news about a Honda or Suzuki bike above 150 cc? And Ninja 250 is priced too high to be affordable by many even though it is technologically very superior.
SUBHASH on November 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm
i am confused gays wich ia beast zmr or r15 plz call me +919998814215
kodieswar on November 13, 2009 at 5:22 am
big bro..,ur review was good.but mind it the ZMR is a tad closer to perfection in its class-sports tourer.R15 is a track tool,and lazy below 7rpm.ZMR is a sports tourer and is indian incarnation of VFR.the headlamp cluster and dashbord is from new VFR 1200f.the headlamp to be precise is from CBR’s of 2001-2002.just check that out.ZMA,ZMR are the only bikes in its class.many indian budding bikers dont know this it is awward comparing ZMR and R15
rohit on November 14, 2009 at 8:22 pm
hi guys ….. everyone has written here their best experiences that thing is sure …… but i want to remind all of you guys which is missing in these points that is the tyre size of r15 ….do we expect this fm yamaha after making such a nice bike still it lacks in its narrow tyres and outdated backlight … bike s hight is too less which can never match with a highted personality man… can we pick fazer tyre for r15?????? some techinician plz explain me… i plannig to buy a bike next month but i m totally confused in r15 fazer n zmr someone plz help me on 9768235090
Ady on November 21, 2009 at 8:18 pm
dude bike having wet tyres u can change ur tyre but i would recommended to change wid cbz’z tyre that would be rocking otherwise bike is for running (tracks) and wid fz’z tyre bike having sporty look but aint able to run
hope u got my point
1 more thing u can email to MRF cuz yahama always used MRF Tyre
swaroop,tumkur on November 29, 2009 at 1:29 pm
hii guys da tyre of r15 s narrow but whn we replacin da tyre wid fz the mllge will fully drop nd power will lose coz of more friction…..r15 have good sporty performance of 16 bhp in 150cc,,but fz has wide rear tyre but it have less power of 13bhp da mllge will balanced…….fz16 n fazer150 r same but fazer have shield in front,,,,choose r15 its never give bad image………….
Himanshu on December 3, 2009 at 7:32 am
they are compared as both hav d same price allmost. but the r15 has a lot more to offer as in more power, more style, more mileage, more value for money & more performance and the tag of world’s greatest two wheeler manufacturer . what else do you want ?
praveen roshan on December 7, 2009 at 8:30 am
zmr is well made bike. it is being my ride. every one should go for it.it will create your recognization ilove zmr and hrithik roshan
Amit Oza on December 7, 2009 at 5:19 pm
It is unfair to compare 150 cc with a 220+cc bike. Anyways look wise R15 has a an edge over ZMR.
Vineet on December 8, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Ninja is gonna rock 250cc twin cylinder parallel blocke. On road price mumbai 30,4000….
Vineet on December 8, 2009 at 2:11 pm
ninja comes in two colours that are lime green and black
Vineet on December 8, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Ninja has a top speed of 165 kmph.
Rite now I Have R15 But In Few Days i will Be A owner Of Ninja
maha on January 4, 2010 at 10:55 am
i strongly believe that in a country like india, there is lot of room for rural roads
i have a riden r15 in hyderabad for ten days
it looks great, unique, sporty and moves like a real beast
but wat i felt was the seating position does nt suit well for all persons. iam 6 feet tall where this bike feels very little as such i was sitting on a mini bike. my legs and handle bar position and my spinal bending made me so uncomfortable after half an hour journey. so i hope for persons who r more than 5.8 feet r1 cant be a convinient piece.
when read abt karizma zmr, the bike with its height positioned handle bar and good seating position may allow to njoy not only with in the city territories but can explore the true india. actually i am a regular biker who tour most of the times on bikes. i drive achiever(my brother’s) n cbz xtreme
both have positioned handle bars. so it helped me a lot in touring. i went to kurnool a place 200kms from hyd on r15. it was fun really i enjoyed a lot but the very next day it had some effect upon me. may be i must get used to that before i take a long ride.
i suggest
yamaha r15 for city riders
karizma zmr for Xploring
anky on January 5, 2010 at 2:31 pm
dude
yamaha has made a masterpiece of 150cc engine
if it gets 225 it will scare the shit out of other companies
specially of bajaj
abhinav on January 9, 2010 at 7:48 pm
karizma rocks…any day better than r15 which looks like small toy bike with thin luna type tyres..
abhinav on January 9, 2010 at 7:51 pm
there is hell lot of difference in ride quality b/w two. karizma is strdy, strong ,stable bike.
sunny on January 10, 2010 at 2:15 pm
karizma is al time best,superb…
r15 is no wer 2 b compareddd…
haan well ZMR is nt dat cool as v expected…
KARIZMA R still rocks !!!
pc420 on January 24, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Hii guyzz….nice reviews abt these two hunks..!!
but as per i think….ZMR rocks..!!!!!
and itzz the king of the indian bikes..!!!!!
(^_^)..!!!
Reeto on February 4, 2010 at 10:36 am
ZMR is an excellent bike. The PGM-Fi and oil cooler might not have added much to the bike’s performance but it has definitely made the engine a lot smoother. Mileage has shot up too. If I plan for a ride to Delhi from Mumbai, I would choose the ZMR for its comfort and the ability to maintain triple digit speeds for miles n miles. Also the ZMR’s suspension is better than the r15’s when riding on rough roads. Pillion comfort is also higher in case of the ZMR as compared to r15. The p220’s suspension wallows a lot and has the tendency to bottom out on rough roads with pillion.
pratheek on February 9, 2010 at 8:34 pm
well guys i too was planning a goodbike but iam still in dylama b/w r15 n zmr.iam 6′1′ tall and my friend had a r15.i rode it in warangal.all is ok except the sitting position.i think it doesn,t suits persons above 5′8′.we have to compramise in some aspects b’co’ if we want everything we had to go for hayabuasa rite……. so my sincere suggestion is to buy bullet????????????????????? confused………. me too when i herd the same from my friends.byeeeeeeeeee
rajat on February 12, 2010 at 11:28 am
wel bros i was never so confused lik dis but finally my search for excellent bike ends with yamaha r15.i am d avid authomobil fan and after ridin both zmr ,220pulsar n yamaha i choose d best n today after 2 months m satisfied…d class lies in r15 is d handlin @125 kmph speed with hassle free brakin d sharp n gud lookin turnin posture…and spirit of true sport bike(dont mix with super bikes)its realy fun to cruise @ 100+ speed with no hasle….
neconfusions regardin bikes do call me @ 9258736983….
naveen mathur on February 24, 2010 at 2:51 pm
i thk karizma is best one because some wht karizma is heighter than r15 and karizma is more cc than r15 and karizma had more speed thn r15 and i am said tht i bought r15 and now i am feeling bad
keval shah on February 25, 2010 at 4:39 pm
hey guys please help me out i’m confused between zmr and r15!
i prioratize for r15 but the thin rare tyre pinches me, this is what drags my attention towards zmr …………. plz plz help me……..and may be some of you techno-devils can suggest some solution for the tyre of r15…….
ganesh... haPpY bykng on March 2, 2010 at 7:50 am
dnt worry abt d tyres… r15 tyre is d grippest amoung al indian byks… but d driving pouster of r15 is not comfort fa touring….. r15 tyres never put u down easly….
happy bykng …. dude
karizma all da way on March 4, 2010 at 1:27 am
r15 is for those short people who cant handel a good bike… haha
Nahid on March 4, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Can any one tell me d best among d bikz of Zmr n R15 im a long rider of bykz once in a mnth i atleast travel lng ridz upto 300 to 500kmz so plz sugest me d best