TVS Apache RTR 180 Ownership Review by Hari

by Deepak on October 5, 2010

The time has at-last come! It is time for me to look for a new companion as my aging companion was getting really old. 11+ years to say it exactly! My companion on all my road-trips, chugging the uphill’s and cheerfully doing the downhill’s, was Bajaj Caliber. Yes! My Caliber did a wonderful job all these years. When it was a baby back in last quarter of1998, it used to be the king of the road. But now with cut throat competition and plenty of ‘kings’ trying to invade the roads, the time has come to change my workhorse.

One year back, in August 2009, I finally made up my mind to acquire a new kid on the block. Having ridden a no non-sense bike all these years (literally, I did not have to go to service center except for replacement of chain, tyre, clutch/brake cables etc), my mind had a soft corner to the Bajaj stable. So I started visiting the showrooms. It was the time when Bajaj was planning to put in the Pulsar 180 UG IV version. Luckily in my city, Thiruvananthapuram (capital of Kerala), Bajaj, Suzuki, Honda, TVS, Hero Honda and Enfield showrooms were within a circular radius of 1 km. Let me say, I am not a big fan of front fairings, bigger tanks and scoops and such extra showoffs. So, Hunk, Karizma, Pulsar 220, Suzuki GS150R etc was off from my list. And my budget was 65,000 – 75,000. Comfort and better seating was also to be taken into account for my better half.

Enfield Bullet 350, Bajaj Pulsar 180 UG IV, Honda Unicorn, TVS Apache RTR 180, Yamaha FZ 16. Phew! The list that I came up, after scouting the internet user reviews, comments, word of mouth etc. It is time to decide among the above contestants. First I went to the Bajaj showroom to test ride the P180 UG IV version. At a single look, most of its design was taken from the elder P200. It has split seats, good looks etc, but the saree guard is not having foot-rest rods. When I enquired whether it has one or not, the showroom guy said to weld it from a local welder! Also, they did not have a test drive machine. Next I went to Honda showroom. Unicorn has not changed much after their introduction into the market.

When I asked for a test ride the answer was in negative (even though I rode one of my friends Unicorn) and the waiting period is crossing one month time! Next I went to Yamaha and same results repeated as that of Honda. Even though it has everything that I am looking for, it is slightly overpriced for a 150cc bike. Next I went to TVS showroom. I rode one of my friends Apache 160 FI and so did have an idea as to how Apaches are. There was a test drive vehicle for Apache 180! But the showroom guy did not allow me to take it to highway for full testing. I took it to inter connected roads and was happy with the way of its handling. Showroom guy also said that it has a waiting period of more than 3 weeks.

When I asked him if I pay the full amount as ready cash, whether he can deliver it on a date specified by me, he told me that he will call back after consulting with the manager. Next I went to the Enfield showroom and there stand Bullet 350 with all its glory. Even after all these years, it had not lost the appeal. Personally I do have a soft corner to Bullet as my Dad owned one.

Now with all the data that I am having it is time for me to choose. With so many Pulsars seen on the road and need to do some aftermarket modifications, it was the first one to go from my list. Being overpriced for a 150cc (I accept the fact that we need to pay a premium for its style), FZ16 was the second one to go from my list. Taking into account the dry weight of the vehicle and the mileage factor (I was looking for at least a 40+ kmpl vehicle) Bullet 350 was the third one to go from the list. Now left with Unicorn and Apache 180.

I went to both these showrooms again to make up my mind. Honda people were saying that it would take at least a week to get the bike. This time though, they gave me a bike to test ride. TVS people were saying that they will try to get the bike on the date that I specified. After weighing in all the factors in my mind for a couple of days (I was sleepless sometimes, literally), I decided to go for Apache 180. I went to TVS showroom on the second week of August 2009 and booked my RTR 180. I want the bike to be delivered on 17th August 2009, as it was starting of a new year according to calendar followed by Keralites (Any keralite reading this, it was Chingam 1).

And finally the day has come. I woke up pretty early and was eager to get by baby. When the time struck 11AM, I set out to get my RTR 180. By afternoon, I got my bike! WOW! I am a proud owner of Apache RTR 180. I went to nearby petrol bunk, filled the whole tank and set out to my home.

Warm welcome was waiting for the new baby. My dad did his preliminary inspection on it and was satisfied, my mom & wife did an aarathi pooja, and my sis took a drive! Everybody was happy even though my mom & dad had a concern that I may speed out on this pint sized power-house!

I settled for a matte grey color, as black color is too noticeable and so many black pulsars around. White color? I had to wait for another week! Yellow? A definite no-no choice for me.

Below is the very first shot of RTR, being ridden below 10kms. (Showroom to home – 7.8 kms only)

And that is me with my baby :)

I first thought of writing up a review after a month, but I hold back, due to the fact that, the review may not be complete if I did not complete all four seasons in my RTR. So now after an year a month, I think it is a good time to write a review.

Style and Build Quality

When I stop at traffic lights all the people who are in their bikes surrounding me stared at me. A couple of times RTR 160 owners spoke with me regarding the performance, mileage and other stuff. Once during the night, a pulsar guy came over and said “wow, you are having blue backlight on your dash board. Cool!”
The styling is not much different from the old Apaches. It could have been given more style other than copying the old ones. The differentiator between the old and the new ones are the racing stripes on the tank and the scoops. I liked this because I can go unnoticed in the crowd. The matte grey finish is also helping me to go unnoticed.

The tank has air scoops, which helps to cool down the engine and increase the aesthetics of the bike. The forward stance also gives an impression of it being a racing-kind of bike. The grab rail/bars on the rear are not just for a show off but a pretty solid grab rail. I was able to move the bike, by picking up from the rear using these bars/rail. The brake levers are forged so that it is lighter in construction but give a point to styling.

The detachable rear fender flap is a good option. During rainy season, the flap can be attached to it, so that the vehicle/person coming behind me are not ‘bathed’ in mud and water, and on other seasons it can be removed so that RTR looks racier. If you plan to, not to attach the flap on rainy season, then be prepared to wash the pillion rider’s shirt/top after a ride!

Also, I found a pretty good problem during rains! Your shoe will be loaded with water even in a slight rain. I think it is due to the foot rest being near to the rear wheel mud guard coupled along with the fact that there is a small opening on the rear-foot rest designer plate!

The other problem which I noticed is rusting of open parts. I noticed it on the front shock absorbers, then weight-end/clips-ons on both sides of the handle bar, then on the saree guard, on the underside clamp of the headlights. For a good bike like this, these must be taken care by TVS.

These rusting happened in a life span of 1 year. I must say that, in my old Bajaj Caliber, the rusting came up only after a couple of years.

The matte black kind of finish on the engine is pretty good, the same goes for the side/rear panels. The exhaust is covered with a silver kind of plate, which helps the beauty of the bike. The six spoke alloy wheels with factory fitted TVS tyres are good, but it could be better if other brands may be used. I did have a slippery grip during the rainy season.

Indicators are good, so do the rear brake lights. Number plates are set in a visible area, just below the headlight on the front and at the rear; it is placed in such a way that, it is easy to add the detachable rear fender easily. The rear shock absorber is painted in light golden colors and having the spring/coils in black, adds to the beauty.

Electrical and Instrumentation

RTR has a pretty neat no non-sense dashboard which houses digital speedometer and an analogue tachometer. The digital speedometer console itself houses the digital clock, the fuel gauge, the speedometer, the odometer, the trip meter A & B, the high speed indicator and the shortest time indicator! Phew, so much in a single console. Having two trip meters has many advantages, like set meter A to get the mileage and meter B to count the distance covered.

Fuel gauge/indicator is faulty or not showing the exact amount of fuel left in the tank. The tachometer console houses the tachometer/rpm counter, the fuel warning indicator, the service reminder indicator and the battery charge indicator. It also has the TVS racing logo imprinted on it. Below the digital speedometer lies the high beam indicator, the neutral indicator and the turn signal indicator.

On the left handle bar, it has the horn, turn signal switch, pass by switch, head lamps dim/bright switch and the choke lever. On the right handle bar, it has the electric start switch, head lamp switch and the engine cut off switch. The ignition type is dual mode digital ignition with a bosch twin electrode spark plug. The headlamp is halogen 35/35W and the park/position lamp is 4W. The signal lamp is 10W and number plate lamp (rear) is 4W. Tail/brake lamp is 0.5/3.5W. The quality of switch gears is very good and none of them is having a pointed edge, so it will be smooth on your fingers.

Having a self start option, the battery must be maintained to its optimum. In all these days, I did not have any glitches in starting up the machine in a single press. Be it in the morning, when the engine is cold or be it at the time when the engine is warm after a ride. I usually use the kick start option in the morning and for the rest of the day use the self start option. In that way you can maintain the self starting motor & battery to its optimum and will not forget to kick start the bike, in case battery goes down!

Comfort and Handling

RTR seating position is slightly forward, meaning you cannot ride it in a spine-straight/upward postion (unless your are nearly or more than six feet tall). Having an average height I am comfortable with the forward slanting riding position. It gives you a feeling that you are going to race. The length and width of the seat provide ample space for both the driver and pillion rider. The cushion is not of top notch quality but average. The showroom people put up a seat cover, which adds nothing more to the cushion feeling.

When I removed and inspected the seat cover the showroom guys provided, it was just a leather cover with no cushioning underneat it. So I discarded it althogether.
RTR has telescopic oil damped shocks at the front and gas filled shocks at the rear. The rear shock is of 5 step adjuster, so you can set it to your liking. Riding through the poth ridden road, it absorbs most of the shocks, but if you ever fall into a heavy poth hole or just cut through the point where the new tarring meets the old tarring of the road, the front portion give a loud thud sound! The ground clearance is only 165mm, so be careful while riding with the pillion. The cowl/engine-fairing may kiss the road, on some humps and poth holes.

Having a wheel base of 1326mm, the bike is quite steady at lower as well as higher speeds. Nobody other can match the cornering ability of this one. If you a ride a Pulsar 180 and then a RTR 180, you can definitely feel the difference. The factory fitted TVS Srichackra is not so comfortable when riding in rainy days. On dry surface the grip is really very good, but that feeling goes off, when you ride in the rain/ wet surfaces.

The front tyre is having a size of 90/90 and rear tyre is having a size of 110/80, which translates to great grip and confidence. The wheels are light weight alloys, so it helps in reducing the overall weight of the vehicle (around 140kgs with full tank) without compromising on the safety aspect. TVS did a good job on that front.

Engine and Transmission

RTR 180 is built around the same platform as other Apaches and hence share the same 4 stroke, air cooled, single cylinder OHC with 62.5mm bore and 57.8mm stroke. The piston displacement is 177.4 cc having 2 valves. The compression ratio is 9.5:1. The maximum power is 17.3 bhp @ 8500rpm and the maximum torque is 15.5Nm @ 6500rpm, all enclosed in a Mikuni BS-29 carburetor. Being a carburetor version, we can tune it to our liking unlike the FI machines. Utmost care is to be taken while tuning the carburetor, if something goes wrong, the bike is dead or sluggish in performance.

I rode the RTR very carefully during the run-in period. I did not go more than 50 kmph nor did any sudden acceleration/braking and other such stuff. I rode it normally through the traffic engaging gear changes on long stretches so that engine can set in. Home to Office distance is around 22km and it is pretty near to 50-50 city-highway road. RTR is a rev happy machine, you can open the throttle and overtake or attain speed without any hiccups.

The engine is mated with a 5 speed gearbox which is smooth, the only problem being the shifter having only the toe option. So be careful while wearing a shoe which is light especially made of leather. As the bike is designed from Racing Throttle Response (RTR), no matter which gear you are in, you can turn the accelerator and fly. Once on a level road, I was able to come down to as low as 24 kmph in top gear and was able to climb back to 70kmph in a matter of seconds! The engine note said that it was not complaining but demanding more! The top speed that I was able to achieve is 121 kmph and the manual/spec says it is 124 kmph! So I was just short of 3kmph in touching what the manual said.

At night time, the headlights are powerful enough both in the dim and bright modes. One interesting factor that I noticed when I use bright light is, whenever I am passing through smoke/fog like conditions, two rays which seems to originate from the parking light bulb position, goes straight up into the open sky! The light falling area is also pretty good; you can avoid the potholes and humps.

Performance and Braking

17.3 bhp of raw power is more than enough for our city road conditions. To use the full power you have to ride in the highways or ride at mid-night (I am not mentioning cities like Mumbai or Delhi, but my own city which starts sleeping by the time clock stuck 11PM). When you are starting from a standstill and raring to go, the bike keeps up to your expectation. If your open up the throttle, it responds without a glitch and before you think that you have reached the maximum, the bike still gives a feeling like it can be pushed more.

But if you have a pillion rider, be warned, it will not perform like it used to be. That is because of high power to weight ratio. Now coming to the most often discussed part – vibrations. Yes, there is indeed vibrations creeping in, when speed hit above 50 and dies out when it reaches 70 kmph. But think about the bhp it packs, think about the performance it packs, think about the brakes it packs, then these vibration will not come to your mind. If TVS is able to tackle this issue, then I must say RTR 180 will become more desirable.

RTR 180 employs roto petal disc brakes for both front and the rear. Having 270mm at the front and 200mm at therear, the pint-sized work-horse is put to a full stop without any slippage. Be warned that if you apply brakes so hard, the bike may stop at the place, but the driver may be thrown off! Just kidding . But that is the way in which brakes are designed. If the tyres are Zapper ones, the braking may be improved and be of more precision. I am not sure about that aspect, but I am still using the stock tyres. But all these accuracy and full stops go away once you are in the rain or on wet conditions. But I think that is expected of disc brakes, in general.

Mileage and This & That

As I ride the bike through the city and through the highway, on my daily commute to office, I must say the fuel consumption figures are justified. If you ride the bike in a careful manner, like keeping the speed below 60 kmph and not changing the gears too often, not having a sudden acceleration/braking etc, it returned an average of 44-46 kmpl.

If ridden like a racing maniac (yes, I did so, to test the full capability of the bike), it returned an average of 38-40 kmpl. But I am riding somewhere between being sane and insane. The last time I check for an average, it returned me 43 kmpl. Phew! That is a good average figure for this racing horse. The tank capacity is 16 liters with 2.5 liters marked for reserve.

Some other minor things that I would like to point out are:

  • RTR 180 has open chain, means, you have to maintain the chain in good condition. Clean it every two weeks and adjust it once in a month, to give a better performance.
  • Make sure you are using the rear fender flap on a rainy season.
  • Park the bike under the shades, if possible, on sunny days, as it may leave an after effect on your digital dashboard console.
  • Service it once in two months, after you run out of service periods mentioned in the user manual.

Verdict

I must say, TVS put in all the effort to bring out a good performance bike which an average user can depend, be it buying it or maintaining it. Despite having some shortfalls, my baby did not disappoint me even once. It is a cool bike to have a city commuting and weekend get aways. If you are a tall guy, look for other options, but if you are an average guy go for it.

  • Style and Build Quality – 8/10
  • Electrical and Instrumentation – 8/10
  • Comfort and Handling – 8.5/10
  • Engine and Transmission – 8/10
  • Performance and Braking – 8.5 /10
  • Mileage – 8/10
  • Overall – 8/10

- Hari

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arun October 5, 2010 at 4:09 pm

Wow your review is very neat told briefly and honestly overall your review was fantastic and one of the best reviews on bike advice site

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Pritam dhamde October 5, 2010 at 4:10 pm

Nice review .
Just want to ask u hari that does ur bike vibrate normally coz my frends white rtr littrally makes u feel ur pulling a scooty out of its limit.
Else wise a true indian performance bike.series rtr

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Aditya Chatterjee October 5, 2010 at 4:19 pm

very gud and informative review….but i must say..its not that spicy that one cud not move away his eyes from d screen….
a review has to be spicy…so that the interest remains constant..!!

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Mauve December 22, 2011 at 12:43 am

Always the best content from these pdirogious writers.

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Shifine October 5, 2010 at 4:58 pm

Good Hari

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Sunil October 5, 2010 at 5:02 pm

Hari, It is really good to see such kind of honest and personal reviews. Good work.

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Jacob October 5, 2010 at 5:03 pm

Very detailed and perfect evaluation. I have never read such a detailed one any where on the net…. Kudoss writer… Expect a lot more from you :D

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Manu October 5, 2010 at 5:15 pm

Fantastic review! This guy has written in a language that is understandable by everyone (even the technical details). Also the write up is like story-telling and is enjoyable. I have to now reconsider my options when going to buy a bike :)

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Priya October 5, 2010 at 6:22 pm

8/10 is gud… and great snaps. I have a collegue who used to have an apache, he agrees with your review completely. Infact after reading your review he has decided to buy one again.
Quite a good write up, must say…10/10 for the REVIEW… :-)

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RAVI January 18, 2011 at 10:37 am

yes exactly.

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Arun October 5, 2010 at 6:44 pm

Never read such a detailed review, its worth a read. And I have a bit to add, I realy doubt the quality of metal that TVS use. My Victor had its fuel tank rusting from inside since 6 months of purchase.

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Hari October 5, 2010 at 6:52 pm

@Pritam,
Vibration is there, but not like you said. It is on an acceptable range. If there is so much of vibration, do a checkup with the service center guys.

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shubham October 5, 2010 at 7:04 pm

Its simply great. I think i must complement the writer. He has written superb. I love this review. I think every blogger of auto industry should try to inspire for this blogger and try to take inspiration. I rate this post as a five star. *****.

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Varun October 5, 2010 at 7:40 pm

I agree it is a great bike, good looks, amazing performance. Thanks for the detailed review

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Aswin Induchudan October 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm

Yes of course, an excellent review to ponder upon, i have many things to voice when i come across such a writeup;
At the point of time when the bike was taken-up by th owner(August 2009), we had very few to match up the TVS RTR 180 in terms of mileage and classy ride because even the Pulsar of the same order did not have the engine finess to get to quality ride or mileage proprtions in regular usage.

But if you were to be a fan of Enfield Bullet 350, you could have bought the old thumping heart and modified the Filter obtainable at below 5k for more performance in terms of mileage. Nevertheless options are at plenty since the Dignity is not shown in any other. I will put my thoughts on this later.

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Vikram October 5, 2010 at 8:58 pm

Excellent review…

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sourav patel October 5, 2010 at 9:14 pm

dude…i hv a P180 n its going gr8 guns..i can beat A180 anyday(my bike is K&n air filter equipped) handsdown..guess wat..the footrest 4 d saree guard is available as an accesory these days in bajaj showrooms..it costs 250 bucks

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Deepak October 5, 2010 at 9:15 pm

Nice, honest and informative review. Very good.

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Hari October 5, 2010 at 11:00 pm

@sourav patel, can you beat RTR180 with stock performance fittings? I don’t think so :) now a days saree guard with footrest may be available, but what I aired is what I experienced back in 2009.

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fas October 5, 2010 at 11:01 pm

The bike looks awesome in this colour. Very good and honest review.

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Krish October 6, 2010 at 12:19 am

Hi deepak,please post a detail comparison review between A160 and A180

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Balu R October 6, 2010 at 4:33 am

One of the best reviews i have read in a long time !!

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Jayraj October 6, 2010 at 5:05 am

Btw Nice Review !!!!
Dude !!!!

As you know.

NO ONE CAN BEAT ” KARIZMA R “.

I can beat you anytime because i am having a Karizma with K&N air filter. A larger rear tire and all that. But ask anyone in the market ” Which one is the best? ” ZMA or TVS CHAMP ”

:D

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navin jain September 13, 2011 at 11:16 am

i can beat ur karizma R….. i had ported my 180cc with K&N filtter… i can cross 140speed, in just 2 km… karizma cant cross 130 speed… u can cheak…

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Kanagu October 6, 2010 at 6:42 am

Hari,

It’s great. I admire the extent of passion you have on your bike.You have really gone thru each and every aspect of the bike. I had a general low rating for the TVS bikes in my mind. But your review has changed it. Do write more about other bikes your friends are having as your style of review is informative, comprehensive, honest and all the more ENCHANTING.

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su ka pha October 6, 2010 at 10:29 am

This is one of the few honest and well written reviews!
brother i like ur RTR, u have maintained it well! i am a pulsar 180 owner still i beleive we are bikers from heart and not rivals.! hail to you for the great piece of info and keep driving go safe! regards

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Siju October 6, 2010 at 11:28 am

A great review!!!!!!!!

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The Menace October 6, 2010 at 12:35 pm

Great Review Hari. I have a Apache 180 and I can’t help but agree with you on every aspect. The joy that I get riding my RTR is something to treasure. The throttle response is probably the best part as you get power instantly and dn’t need to even wait for a second for the engine to respond.

Amazing review and amazing bike. One more thing, people having k&n on their karizma’s and pulsar’s must know that TVS has a racing kit available. If they are so interested in dragging with a rtr180, go and challenge a race kitted 180 and end up seeing yourself humiliated.

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Hari October 6, 2010 at 4:29 pm

@fas, yep, this color is good. you can go unnoticed in the crowd, but can be powerful at the same time :) thanks
@Jayraj, thanks & can you beat me without K&N filter :)
@Kanagu, happy to know that you loved my review. I can do other bikes review but I do not think my friends will give me their bike for a full year(unless you go through all the seasons, the review may be incomplete):)

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rajbasumatary October 6, 2010 at 5:42 pm

hari, a very good review. Its good to see you pointing out small things like how mud can be all over your feet due to the foot pegs a little behind than normal bikes. Now these are very honest points. I mean these are things people would face while commuting to office, college or while touring. Good one mate. Raj

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Sachin October 6, 2010 at 9:28 pm

Nice review Hari

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VijayRaj October 6, 2010 at 10:50 pm

Cool stuff…and very informative…
Reviews should cover each and every bit of your ride life cycle..as Hari did..
Keep the good work man !!

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Jayraj October 7, 2010 at 4:42 am

Ya Karizma can surely beat ” TVS CHAMP ”

You can ask any one dear !!!

:P

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arun October 7, 2010 at 2:04 pm

There is no way that karizma or pulsor fitted with k and n filters can overtake an apache with k and n filters i agree that karizma is a great bike when it comes to racing with apache 180 with k and n filter it is apache that takes the lead

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yogs_deo October 7, 2010 at 2:47 pm

Hi… nice review.
But only mentioned the prons.
Some of the problems worth mentioning are..
1) The bike vibrates a lot.(@3k rpm the stearing n footrest vibrates like a hell)
2) Bad service centers.
3) Gear box is nutchy(get stuck quite often)
4) Expensive spares(Changed one WAY CLUCTH couple of times which would cost 2k to 3k Rs if not under warranty)
5) Mileage ranges frm 35 to 45(HARDLY).
6) Pillion Sitting is not that comfortable. (For old peoples like mom N dad.Mom is afraid of sitting on it)
7) Stock tyres really sucks on wet regions.

One more Suggestion make sure to test drive before making your decision.Coz afterwards u dont have to refrain your decision.

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aaa November 3, 2010 at 8:05 pm

@yogs_deo,

I agree with you except for points 5 & 6.
This is a performance bike and dont except high mileage from the rtr180. Its a power monster and u have to pay the price to get the power.

And this bike is certainly not for old ppl. Dont risk their lives. :)

For the Point 3, get ur bike serviced at a good service centre under a good mechanic. My gear box is smooth now. I hardly face issues with my gear shift
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Param October 7, 2010 at 6:01 pm

@ Jayraj

You are comparing a 223cc machine to an 180cc “LOL”
Though this 180cc delivers more power than the 223cc of yours as per the company specifications ;)

For your information, any bike can be upgraded with a KnN air filter; you are not the only user.

I must say that your comment ‘NO ONE CAN BEAT ” KARIZMA R “.’ Sounds childish to me because Yamaha R15 can beat Karizma, Kawasaki Ninja 250R can beat Yamaha R15, Yamaha R6 can beat a Ninja 250R and so on…

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murali October 7, 2010 at 6:07 pm

great review off ur baby

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Hari October 7, 2010 at 9:55 pm

@yogs_deo
1) I do have vibration problems, but not to the extend that you mentioned (Please see the 2nd paragraph of Performance & braking)
2) Till now, I did not have any problem with service center
3) Please see the first sentence of 3rd paragraph under Engine and Transmission
4) Not sure, as I am still lucky to have the stock spares :)
5) 35kmpl (you are a racer) 45kmpl (you are a normal commuter)
6) It may be a problem for older generations (but wait, this bike is for younger generation, right :) )
7) Please see the last sentence of, last but one paragraph, under Style and Build Quality.
So I did mention about the cons also, right :) I think you were not able to see those because I did not separately mentioned about the pros and cons (Did I mention about pros anywhere? All are there for your eyes to see :) )

Yes, if anybody is going to purchase any bike, take a test drive. I too strongly advice it.

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Passang October 10, 2010 at 7:00 pm

Hii!
Namaste to you all.
Thank you very much for your great informative review,
I have same bike but i am having lots of problem like..

1. front and rear shockers sounds lot when i drive on small whole.

2. I am from himachal pradesh, Dharamshala hilly area its not giving good power and i have to go for 1st and 2nd gear but i drove Pulsar 180 its runing on 3rd gear easily and also when i felt that current gear is doing good when i shift to lower then power of bike decreasing very fast then i have to change back to higher gear.

3. My top or High Speed console show me 140Kmph. i never drove on this speed.
I am happy to get your kind advice.
I am really upset with bike but when i drove bike in plane then speed is much better… please help me what i can do… this is also for other Indian Friends too.
email: passang82@gmail.com

Thank you,
Passang.

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Mathew October 12, 2010 at 4:05 pm

Hello Hari,

Superb review. have you tried getting a job with any of our auto magazines ? (if you’re interested, that is) i have an rtr 180, have had it for almost a year now, about 16,000 kms, couldn’t help feeling that you were spot on, on all aspects ! i did get mine up to 130 kmph, though. am looking to fit an after market exhaust, not many options available in kochi, or thrissur.. And, what the bike really, really needs is one more gear !

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Hari October 12, 2010 at 8:06 pm

@Passang, I am not sure why this happens when you climb an uphill. Better check with service center/personnel. Check you speedo console for any read errors (on second thought, did you gave your bike to any friend of yours for a ride?). And till now, no problem with the shocks, whatsoever!

@Mathew, wordless now :) And happy to see a fellow rider!

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Lakshmi Menon October 16, 2010 at 2:48 pm

This is one of the finest review that I had come across. Like Mathew said why don’t you try to get a job in an automotive magazine? The way of your writing is exceptionally wonderful. Well, we too have an RTR 180 in b’lore. I must say most of the things that you said are true. On a speed racing front, pulsar or yamaha may overtake us, but it is the initial power that we love. Quickly able to overtake anybody, on traffic stops being able to go first etc are the plus, since the roads do not allow for much racing because of traffic.

Also I am planning to install a racing kit on it :)

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Passang October 17, 2010 at 2:34 pm

Hi!
Lakshmi Menon,
I am interested to see your bike when you done modification by installing racing kit.
I am interest to do on my RTR….
Once again waiting for your pictures…

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amit October 22, 2010 at 9:29 am

congratulation mr. hari….

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Hari October 22, 2010 at 2:13 pm

Thanks, Amit :)

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Nizar October 22, 2010 at 7:28 pm

Congratulations Hari…This is a fantastic review..!

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Hari October 23, 2010 at 4:18 pm

Thanks Nizar :)

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Mathew October 22, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Hello everyone,

Any suggestions for an exhaust upgrade? tried last week at thrissur, but all the options available involved reducing the pipe diameter so that it fits into the new canister. didn’t want to do that, could reduce power..There is a video on youtube of the 180 fitted with a “Racefit” exhaust..do not think it is a real Racefit canister though.. :)

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Hari October 23, 2010 at 4:19 pm

I am still hunting for it.. like you said, the stock measurements needs to be adjusted in order to accomplish it

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yash November 7, 2010 at 3:53 pm

please tell me the service costs of this bike .
and also the bad things about this bike.
i m planning to buy this bike in this month .

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yash kariya November 8, 2010 at 4:35 pm

hi !
please tell me that what care u take of ur open chain . how and what do u do for cleaning and what adjustment do u do every month .

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Mathew November 30, 2010 at 11:40 am

@yash: What i do is, when i get the bike washed, i ask the service chap to spray their soap oil mixture on the inside of the chain (on the top of the bottom half) while i turn the wheel slowly, and then later get them spray it off thoroughly with the high pressure water jet. after the chain is dry, (the ride home does that) spray the TVS chain spray (can get that from the dealership, i think 250 rs) again on the inside of the chain, with the bike on the main stand, running in gear so that you can get it evenly on the chain. best to let it dry off for atleast an hour before you ride the bike.

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yash kariya November 30, 2010 at 10:30 pm

thanks for ur reply .
and please let me know the on road price of ur apache rtr 180 with all accessories and also on road price of apache rtr 160 with all accessories .

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ananthakrishnan February 11, 2011 at 9:52 am

hai…ur review was awesome….actually i was also in a dilemma wid all dese bikes as reported by u….bt i had always a softcorner for apaches……nw i cud i finalise

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shubhodeep ghosh February 23, 2011 at 12:26 pm

@yash kariya RTR 180 is a superb bike. Bangalore, on-road price is Rs. 78000-79000, I inquired 3 days back. Not sure about the cost of the racing kit. I am planning to pick this beast up in a weeks time. :)

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Jithin Sarma May 12, 2011 at 11:02 pm

Hi chetta , I ‘m also frm Trivandrum..but i’m a 19yr old. I’m planning to but the Apache RTR-180 , but I am 174 cm in height and I dont knw if it can create problems for me. Can u pls help me out ? :/

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nithin June 18, 2011 at 5:52 pm

Hey guys i’m just about to get a new bike,i would like to buy an apache but all my friends told that it will get blasted just after 1 or 2 year… My father told me that none of the bikes in the market today lasts long as old bikes as he’s got a HH CD100,it’s 10years old but its only got a change in the rear tire other than that nothing… I wanna prove him wrong, but can i do it with an apache… Some1 pls help me out over here:-)

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Prakash June 27, 2011 at 2:24 pm

Hi Nithin,

I don’t think that Apache will give life of atleast 6 years. I was owned Bajaj Pulsar 150 (when alloy wheel introduced) for 6 years. Of course, there will definitely be many differences between new and 6 years old but not much. I only get bored and upgrade to 180 UG4 it is fantastic for me. Nowadays, every bike after 2 years get some difference. Honda CB Unicorn (not Dazzler) will be fulfill you. Just test drive all bikes and choose your own best bike.

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Harigovind July 1, 2011 at 6:21 pm

hi jithin,height is nt a prblem.,.me have RTR180 white one.,.and ma height is also 174cm

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karan July 6, 2011 at 3:17 pm

A 180 is realy good bike…..

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abhishek July 14, 2011 at 10:42 pm

rtr 180 is good n i think the abs will help a lot in improving the grip of the bike n if anyone really
understands the importance of abs he will definitely choose the rtr 180 abs than p220

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manish August 4, 2011 at 6:39 pm

can any 1 suggest me i am buying apache in dis month but i am confused whether to buy 160 or 180 plzzzz help me out.thnx in advance

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Sureshkumar August 11, 2011 at 10:41 am

Hi All, Yesterday I test drive the New TVS Apache rtr 180 ABS and the following are my personal feedback,

First of all, the bike looks really very sporty.
When I sit on the bike, I felt like sitting on a sports bike.
Dashboard looks really cool.
Beat of the engine is like a rhythm I like that very much.
The Most important thing I would like to mention here is the Handling of the bike, It is simply awesome. So far I rode Unicorn, Splendor, GS150, Yamaha r15 among all I felt very comfortable handling in this bike.
Next month I will book this bike… :-)

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ramachandran August 11, 2011 at 1:37 pm

do any one knw how to turn off the service reminder manually by ourself?i own a white rtr 180….

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anup August 17, 2011 at 6:23 pm

press both the mode and select button simultaneously for some seconds…it will go !

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mohit kadian August 12, 2011 at 10:25 pm

i also want to buy a new muscular machine which one i should go for the apache rtr180 abs orrrrrrr in 4 yamaha r15

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nagesh August 22, 2011 at 9:19 am

dear all,
i purchased RTR180 But YOUR TCI UNIT N9060430 is failure, that y my bike repair amount 6,000rs my bike is only 15 months old , the dealer(10018 RANGARAYA TVS, KHAMMAM,ANDHARAPRADESH,INDIA ) also should not given any warranty so pl given any subjugation for me.

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abdul September 3, 2011 at 1:53 pm

i am a owner of the white beast can u help me in turning off the service reminder cos am sick of the service they provide.. so am giving it back to my local mechanic but he doesn’t know to turn it off. can u please let me know

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Varun September 7, 2011 at 2:55 am

I’ve Booked Apache RTR 180(White)
and will get my dream machine by next day!!
wooohh.. i’m not able to get a nap of some hours!! even didn’t watch the Cricket match b/w India and England(India have lost the match Though :/)

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Rajesh sharma October 3, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Hi Hari,

I am going to buy apache in nxt 2 days
But confuse btwn 160 & 180 plz suggest me..

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Rajesh sharma October 3, 2011 at 6:04 pm

Hi Hari,

I am going to buy apache in nxt 2 days
But confuse btwn 160 & 180 plz suggest me.. Thanx

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Ravi October 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm

Good review Hari. I congradulate you on that:)

Hello Everyone..
Am working in a MNC in Bangalore where i do not use bike much.
I’m planning to buy a bike (majority of ride will be during my weekends).
I think this craze of bikes will be there for next 3-4 yeras.
Considering the Bangalore traffic,safety conditions and my craze about bikes, i feel RTR 180 ABS fits good for me..
But still am in Dialama whether RTR180 ABS or Karizma or Pulsar 220 or R15
Waiting on your suggestions…………….

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varun October 29, 2011 at 2:57 pm

me too from tvm… So where u r frm at tvm… And abt ur review … Dont hav any wrds… I was glad to c that u r also from tvm…. Bcoz i could undrstnd the exact riding cndtns wen i buy one… I just wanted to ask u sum questions:

1:i am abt 6 ft… So will it b dffclt for me on apache….?
2: and does dis open chain later affect the chain alignment…?
3:will it b bad for the byk if we add perfmnce upgrade parts…??

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varun October 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm

sorry frgt one questn… Frm which dealer did u buy ur byk and howz the service there….

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prakash November 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm

planning to by a bke..but m cnfused between cbz xtreme or apache rtr 180..both r same price..which 1 to choose?

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salman December 5, 2011 at 6:49 pm

Prakash,
My brother does owns a cbz xtreme2011 its really cool ,great pickup but not like the 2008 model ,but somehow its fine with that.Both the bikes are good .If you are a racing mania go for rtr 180 or If you just want a sporty look go for cbz.But it’d be better if you just go on for a test ride.

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salman December 6, 2011 at 12:07 pm

Hi friends,
I’m planning to buy the white beast with abs the next month.People say its a crap ,not worthy ,no good resale value , after a year its starts to give problems,poor service by TVS ? Is it all truth please someone using this beast for a year please do say about my queries ?
Actually its gonna be my first bike so please do help me out yar ?

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Ummed Jangid January 11, 2012 at 11:04 am

Hi All,

Even I have Apache RTR 180 and I touched 132 KPH… and for those who touched more speed than 132…guys I’m coming…..

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Dilip Rocher February 8, 2012 at 4:55 pm

Nice Review. Seems like it is very useful. Cheers Mate! Tvs Apache RTR – 180. 8/10

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sandeep February 29, 2012 at 6:50 pm

i love apacheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ifa April 18, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Nice review. TVS must consider the vibrations. it should be eliminated.

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Lakshmi kanth May 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Hi Hari,
I am going to buy apache in nxt month
But confuse btwn 160 & 180 and i have to know about price levels in 160 & 180 models (show room price levels) plz suggest me..

Kanth

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osvaldo White (cr) July 10, 2012 at 6:50 am

i ´d love to say that the White One really Rocks, and regarding the ABS should be included as a Standard in all Apache, tks U guys for all your cmmts i m excited about getting one RTR Apache, i concerned about your cmmts on Vibration.

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Jasmeet November 11, 2012 at 5:12 pm

Hey hi.. Excellent review.. My height is 6.1”.. Your last line read that tall guys should look for other options.. why is it so?? Is it not that comfortable for someone like me?? Whats the problem??

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Rahul March 21, 2013 at 7:26 am

thank u sir!! many many thanks to u!!!
u have done a great job! i m seaching this full review from a year.bt all the websites diappoints! again thankx for this full review of the bike.
i m 18yrs old guy.about 5ft 5inch-5ft 6inch in height &weights varies between 60-66kgs.i doesnt like racers & races.
the mn tng is i was confusd between many bikes.i am a fan of apache for last 4yrs.bt the reviews disappoints me.and someone in the review says the mileage is jst 35!! i was sad.and sleepless.bt aftr reading this,i m confident about this bike.
earlier,i rode apache 160 grey color.its awsm! bt i m new to 180.
i like this previous model,not the worst beast model. this model is on production till now.
thank u sir.

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vikas March 31, 2013 at 10:03 pm

i have just brought a new apache rtr 180 abs.happiee with my bike and also the abs is awesome

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