Performance enthusiasts all over the country already had some fulfilling launches in the past few months in the likes of Apache RTR 180, Pulsar 220 DTSi, Yamaha Fazer and it seems like they have something more to cheer about, this time from (the least expected) Honda stables. After nearly half a decade, their flagship model, Karizma is all set to burn the roads in a new avatar and this time it promises to be not just another sticker upgrade! Karizma has symbolized the epitome of performance in its heydays and remains one of the finest bikes in India, still. Serious bikers can still vouch for the sheer fun and pleasure it is, riding this bike.
Some call it street fighter; some call it a perfect tourer, but the fact remains that, Karizma still remains one of the most desired bikes in India even after so many years in the market. After having tested every inch of a Honda lover, with some very lame sticker (so-called) upgrades, Honda seems to be serious this time and it feels like all the wait was worth it and here we have one of the shortest of glimpses into a (expected) brand new world of motorcycling in India. Hero Honda is caught testing its brand new Karizma PGM Fi and here we come with the scoop of the much awaited bike for all these years.
Hold your breath, it doesn’t just look awesome, internals are also expected to be as fiery,
- More Power: The new bike is expected to produce more power and more torque from the same 223 cc engine that has been doing a wonderful duty for all these years.
- Revamped Front Fairing: As clearly depicted in the pics, the bike would be a full faired stunner (second in India after Yamaha R15) with stylish new clear white indicators and stylish and curvier headlamps.
- Mounted Rear View Mirrors: The Rear view mirrors would be mounted on the fairing, but sadly, they look so traditional.
- LED Tail Lamps: The bike would do away with the traditional bulbs system and would sport the much better and more efficient and upmarket LED Tail Lamps (probably similar to CBZ Extreme’s)
- Rear Disc Brakes: The bike would sport rear disc brakes for an even better braking of the bike.
- Gas Reservoir shock Absorbers: The bike would now sport a set of inverted Gas Reservoir shock absorbers straight from its smaller sibling, the Hunk which would make the bike an even better one for long rides.
- Liquid Cooling: The bike would (in all probability) have a liquid cooled engine for an even better cooling of the engine and to null the effect of the lack of air because of the full fairing.
- Fuel Injection: The bike would have the much touted and advanced PGM-Fi from Honda. PGM-Fi already does its job in smaller siblings of Karizma and it, sure would add to the overall character of the bike. Because of Fuel Injection, new Karizma is expected to have a bump in both power and mileage at the same time, along with a much better throttle response.
- New Sticker job: The bike gets a fresh new sticker work which works wonder to the overall looks of the bike.
- Split Grab Rails: The bike also gets a (rather non-matching) new set of split grab rails to enhance the ‘feel good’ factor of the bike.
- Clip-ons: The bike also gets a lovely set of clip-ons. As a result, the posture thus obtained is unmatched and perfect which could be called a mix of sporty and touring. Honda, for sure has sorted this out well.
Apart from these, the engine also appears to be painted golden and the bike could sport a silencer which currently does duty in Hunk (with internal tweaks). The tyres are expected to be the same 100 rear section MRF Zappers. And along with this the meter assembly is also expected to be revamped a bit. Ultimately, it feels so good to read all this, but who knows pricing could dampen our spirits. Pricing would be major criteria and we expect this bike to cross the 1 Lakh rupee mark with ease and could also probably be dearer than the Yamaha R15. We expect this bike to hit the showrooms before or around Diwali ie within 3 months all over India. Let’s see what does this bike has in offer for us, especially with some scintillating machines already winning enthusiasts’ hearts over for all these days. We have our fingers crossed!
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The only thing i would change is the tyres and i remove the mirror when i get his bike everything looks perfect i jus hope milage i above 35
Price definetly would range in between 85k-95k for sure!!! For dis reason i think the r version will also continue to sell by side!!!
It seems that you have already decided to buy this bike. Great. Would like to have a review from you when it is in your hands!
Finally My Dream Bike is going to launch
“I am going to exchange my older version R and i am going to take this ZMR Fi ”
Now all the Tvs, Bajaj and YAmaha Guys will stay back to me on the Roads.
yea but im not gonna get on the day of release ill wait 1-2 months cause first few sets might some defaults in them
I don’t think Hero Honda would do beta testing on its customers. I hope they price it well.
the bike looks not so appealing in pix…..may be look in original better….but we expected a better work from HH
this is FATHER of all bikes in india. definately power will increase with fi but price will increase. when it’s lanching?
the fairing is good…but big(not very proportionate) and lack of bigger tires would further decrease the overall appeal.
new karizma zmr pgm-fi comes with a price tag of rs/- 85000
and it have a digital speedo meter,223cc engine with 21 bhp power…..
Still way to go guys it shuld have been given mono shock suspension with also change in the chassis and also decrease in the weight well i dont knw how much it weighs but might be heavy,the bike would look Hooooooot if it was given inverted telescopic shock absorbers,i would seriousy appreciate Hero Honda if the bike can compete Yamaha Yzf R15 on a race track wid serious corners.I hope Hero Honda Feels wht i say.
I am sorry if i upset any Karizma Lovers bt I am excited abt this Bike so much and i would be delighted if this bike can defeat YZF R15 on a drag and on a race track,Then we can see the look on of an proud R15 owner…..
….dude… i do agree vid u …
Some how i get a feeling that the fairing is huge and the body looks lean
Hey Abhishek..
if you want to race out r15 then you need to go for race bikes buddy… Karizma is not a race bike. Its a sports tourer. It can go fast enough to give r15 and p220 a run for their money. karizma is more a perfect blend of speed, refinement and comfort. If you want to make it a racer you will have to mod it.
From the picture of the new fairing, it is clear that this bike will not be comfortable banking on race tracks as much as RTR or R15 can..
Let Karizma be a mini VFR of India.. the sports tourer.
My fear is not the pricing… its the after sales service.
The service center here (in new mumbai) was incapable of resolving issues with my Karizma. My bike is still suffering from electrical issue which non of the 3 service centers here could figure out. A suggestion they gave was to replace wiring and rectifier total costing 3,500Rs+ without know if any of the two were faulty at all! And here Hero Honda is launching an even more complicated bike for the jerks here to handle!
What a bike
yes,, HH has finally gotits beast.. but when this beast will arrive// i want to sell my karizma R.. n really own this fi
The bike will be a complete failure..people r just excited hearing the name karizma!!
Look at the fairing
they have tried to put hayabusa graphics nd fairing on not so big bike which is looking overburdened..Not expected from hero honda guys
Arpit..
its true that they got graphics on its fairing similar to hyabusa.. but the truth is that Hero Honda has derived its flagship models out of couple of true Honda bikes.
For instance Karizma’s engine is Honda CRF203f’s engine and the front fairing design is inspired out of VFR800 of the 90s
to give you a better idea see the images below:
flickr.com/photos/40357919@N06/3709379942/
flickr.com/photos/40357919@N06/3709380362/
flickr.com/photos/40357919@N06/3709380884/
You may say Karizma looks are taken from CBF 150.. incorrect.. CBF150 came later and it is produced by a Honda similar to our HMSI in perhaps Indonesia and Singapore.
Moreover, I suggest you to not jump in to conclusion by seeing pics taken by a novice using mobile camera!
The only area in design that I fear is the Speedo meter console. The VFR has a lot to display which Karizma doesn’t. And, both Karizma and VFR share traits of using Digital calibration with Analog-cum-digital displays.. so if you are used to bajaj-type digital displays, then you have end up with a shock!
this is a gr8 bike. butttt when will it finally be launched…………….
i need a new bike and that too as soon as possible………
i want the price not above 85k(on road).
hello everyone!!!
i work as assistant manager in hero honda delhi head office vasant vihar.
i do crawl the web to see the feedback of our bikes.
i was out of town for a while and today when i see several website showing new karizma
well im not the one to disclose anything from the company side, but to protect our bikes sales performance,
“I DECLARE THAT THERE IS NO NEW ZMA, AND THIS IS JUST A RUMOUR”
THE R ZMA IS UNDER PRODUCTION AT ALL OUR THREE PLANTS IN HARIDWAR, GURGAON, REWARI.
the pics posted in dis site is nothing then a modification done by some ppl to promote false rumours regarding zma.
@ Anupam Kumar
Well, Well. I could have just deleted your comment, but I just wonder why would anyone from the company worry about the free publicity that the company is getting. Even if this turns out to be a rumour, I am increasing the brand equity of Hero Honda.
And secondly, NO ONE CAN DO A MOD LIKE THIS. One look and we can say that it is a company bike or a local mod.
Perhaps the info was not even revealed to people like you inside the company. And HH is not going to sleep while R15 and P220 rule the market. After all its the No.1 in sales in our country.
And I have another guess. These three white Karizmas are going to be featured in an ad with Hrithik. And may be the ad involves some high end cars like Porche and Merc. Perhaps they get out of it and start driving the ZMRs. Just a wild guess… but what if the ad theme was going to be exactly as I defined. Everyone, just take a note of this.
Hello sir.
I have by zmr
can i use the oil castrol power 1 racing?
And can i fit the remote kit mins on,start,stop and off with remote?
Plz sujest me
thankx
rahul patel
frome:ahmedabad gujrat
Yes the Body looks very lean compared to the fairing. I feel they should have at least redesigned the Fuel Tank by giving it a muscular look to compliment the Full Fairing. This would have negate the feeling of After-market Modification done on current Karzima. Seriously, What you guys say?
Bike also badly need wider rear tyre.
Nevertheless Bike looks Awesome & will definitely turn heads, specially all the Pulsar & R15 owners.
I can smell something burning!!
This Diwali Karizma FI 2009 will set ablaze its competitors.
and yes one more thing i forget to mention, karizma r sales figures have increased after bajaj launched new 220.
ppl have lost faith in bajaj as they have played stupid games wid ppl. think about a person who bought 200 cc pulsar for 70k and what they have done now stopped producing 200 and launched a carb 220 in the same price range.
this is a very sad situation for a 200 owner.
this is the reason the new 220 is not recieving that prompt response as fi did.
zma sales figures are no.1 in the segment.
Karizma karizma little star…..I love karizmaaaaaaaaaa………….
When are they going to launch Karizma FI? I am eagerly waiting for it.
Please…share, if you have any information or should I go for Karizma R only.
Are you sure? Cause, I got the information that there will be a new Karizma FI very soon on the road. Nobody knows the exact date. But I got this information who works in Hero Honda. I am planning to buy and I can not wait anyone…in case their is no new Karizma until next year or so I will go for the karizma R. Please reply.
every one!!!
there is lots of confusion there regarding new zma.so keep fingers crossed as time will only tell us!!!
i think “avi” there is no harm going for the r series.its the best.
even if there would be a new zma it will be priced quite high around 1.2 lac, and a new bike also need to prove itself.
zma r would be value for money!!! for sure
And i read somewhere that HH people have complained in cyber cell about the pictures doing round everywhere…some of the blogs have already removed the pics….i was so delighted hearing abt the new ZMA…now quite confused if at all the bike is gonna be our in near future.
-Sandeep
Hi Avi,
I think it will be better waiting to see what happens.
The bike in the picture does not appear to be any kind of local mod.
Yeah unless its done by some one like Dilip Chabria or so.. but even then they wont go to an extent of making a PgmFI with blur image of HECS3 on the centre cowl — which is some kind of oxygen sensor.. probably a catalytic converter that appeared in VFR models on and after year 2000. so you see.. there is no way this could be a modified bike if we are to believe the stickers as well.
Wait for official new of the bike. It will be more expensive than current karizma.
Wait !
might be the bike is an international version of karizma.
just like wagonr car has different looks in japan and other countries u can search in google images
All bike lovers know the craze for karizma,..indeed the new new karizma is still in the verge of launching and it has ended up getting thousand queries, and it makes as one of the best bikes… thumps up.. n proud to be a owner of this beat
i think the new karizma coming it is a only rumour its fake cant trust.
This sure looks good and if the power is in the range of 20-21 bhp then my karizma r is going to have a new owner. It has done 13000 kms and was bought 11 months ago. it is in very good condition. how much shall i expect for it.
@ rusty, this is not a trading website….ok. go to a dealer he will tell u the resale value.
Allright guys i confirmed. there is a new karizma cominp somtime near diwali. confirmed it from one of the guys in the showroom who had gone to see the bike. now this showroom holds the record to sell most bikes in the country and the owner was honoured in japan in a honda festival. so news from this showroom carries a lot of weight. but they still arent confirming it officially.
Didnt know i asked ur opinion vipul. but i love imbecile opinions neway.thnks a ton buddy.
Hey Anupam !
I also heard from sbody known that this new ZMA is coming.
Which depptt are you working with in Hero Honda?
Are u sure it’s not going to come in market.
Pls tell so that we 4 frns should buy Karizma R(we r waiting for this one to come)
My freind works as the head mechanic for karizma. he has seen the bike and claims it looks beter than r15. so better wait. but it will be alunched only around diwali he says.
my advice is tht u shud wait.
@ scorpio,
i can confirm you that there is “NO NEW KARIZMA”.
u can definetly go for r version widout any issues.
cant wait for da new zma-fi
hope it has got more power n torque dan before so i can kick da ass-es of pulsar 220 n R15 as i have been doing with my zma-r
If that is so…..then why dont you advice your company to launch the new zma in order to increase the sale of the company…Bcoz of the new bajaj Pulsar 220,launched this season,the sale of zma will reduce alot because P220 has extreme power of 21bhp whereas zma with only 17bhp….and even the yamaha bikes launched which are just 150cc generates a power of 17bhp…so Hero Honda must do something to stand in the market in 200cc+ section bikes…
karizma sales figures have increased after bajaj launchhed 220(as published by autocar).
220 doenst have even a chance to stand against zma.
Don’t know man…what’s stopping them from launching the new Zma. I am tired of waiting. Next month I will buy the yellow zma r only.
hey awi, i recommend u to gor for karizma r widout any second thought.
once u buy it , u will never regret ur decision. i promise u for that!!!
wait till diwali avi. they will launch the new karizma around diwali. dnt go for zma r. though a very good bike(i have one myself) u will be irritated no end once the new amr launches within a few months of ur buying zma. trust me u will hate urself for the haste. if the new bike is too expensive u can always go to zma r(from what i gather if the new one is too pricey they wont stop production of zma r). it pays to wait remember tht.
new karizma FI is fake, coz from last three years i m hearing about that, but till HH hasn’t launched, r they launching a karizma or terminator who takes 12years to come, its truly fake, if HH launch karizma FI, then it will be different from the existing bike.
Yellow Karizma R booked!
@deepak, Yes its true new zma is fake, why hh need to go for a new version when their r version is selling in better figures than 220.
and also its almost 3-4 years since then we are jsut hearing that new zma is coming and coming……………………..
i think these rumours are spread by those ppl who just want to promote pulsar 220.
@avi, congratulations on your decision, and keep my words for ur record”YOU WILL NEVER REGRET YOUR DECISION”
its a foolish comment
we hate R15 because it has no sudden pick up (like KARIZMA)
KARIZMA is the only one motorcycle in india that reaches 0-60 KM/hr just 3.8 sec
Wooooooohhhh!!! Please launch this sexiest bike as early as possible! I can’t wait for longer. This bike is the most beautiful bike in India. I love you Karizmaaaaaaaaa!!!
Hey Deepak,
Can you please give a definite answer on the PGM FI launch? atleast the probability?
We ppl dont really have access to project insights as you might have, being into business.
I know i can be pretty satisfied buying a “R”. But then i dont want to regret on missing the DIGITAL advantage and better tech/specs that might be on offer.
We ordinary readers do get to see some test models of future cars and bikes on Pune roads in covered form.But never a ZMA. no production unit on here! You may consider this query as a challenge!!! a friendly one though!
Do reply.
Sandy
@ Sandy… Hero Honda was very upset when the spy image of Karizma PGM Fi was released… If there is no such bike in real, they need not get so upset. Also the photo does not seem to be photoshopped and also it is definitely not a mod, because the pic had 3 similar bikes and the job was sharp to the edges! PGM Fi is coming that’s for sure! But may take 3 or even 6 months.
as per HH showroom, they are not confirmed for ZMA FI, as per them HH is goin to launch ZMA in 350CC, but when they dont know, its fake about ZMA FI in current model.
i dont think hero honda can ever launch a 350cc bike, if the bike is there then it will be not more than 250cc and price would be high around 1.2 lac.
still the zmr is rumour as stated in vicky.in forum
I agree it will be expensive and cannot be 350cc at all!!
even 250cc is a high expectation. It will be 223 or bored to 225-230cc.
and vicky.in has always been pro anything but Hero Honda.
For any1 who has read his review, it will be better to looks for more inputs. anyways it just my opinion.
i always waiting for launching of karizma fi
I went to one of the showrooms in Coimbatore to book Karizma and the sales person told me that we have to wait till September 10th for the new Karizma FI release and the price range would be around 85k. Even enquired whether bookings are open for the Older version and he told that the version is going to be stopped for ever. So I think the New Karizma price tag will not go higher than 85k.
Face lifted r15 is also coming this diwali
Deepak you are right… This seems to be genuine one…Only a small?! complain is there is no monoshox! they make the machine look sexy. And why that Yucky red color?
Anyway i plan to get a ZMA on 22nd October thats my birthday and no big Festive day or so!! hopepully i get to lay my hands on this one. Otherwise ‘m gonna settle with “R”.
HI ,
santhosh is it true that the sales person in coimbatore told that the new karizma zmr pgm fi will be out in september 10th ah? Please reply if u see this.
Guys
Forget karizma yamaha is going to launch new R15 with more power and split seat like R125 before diwali
Hi Ambrose it is true since they are not delivering any new bikes now. They told that you have to wait till September 10th for the new FI model. He also updated that the delivery of Hunk is also stopped since FI is coming on Hunk also and only CBZ Extreme delivery is only given right now.
HEY ALL YOU BOYS LOOK HERE!!!!!
HH KARIZMA ZMR PGM fi not a rumour. India’s leading auto magazine ‘BIKE INDIA’ has confirmed the news about karizma ZMR PGM Fi. You should see the pages starting from 20-30 (I dont know exact page no.) from BIKE INDIA magazine published on 1 Aug 009. Bike India has lot of experience since many years. There team will not be wronge anytime. Few Informations related with the new karizma are also displayed on there website(u Should find). I also believe that the new karizma is coming, after receiving there reply. Definitely, The new karizma will be in Showroom before Diwali. SO Dont follow any fake comment. I always contact many websites to find informations related to New Karizma but they finally suggest me to follow bike india. So let us celebrate this diwali with the all new karizma ZMR PGM Fi.
Yes N Kariz is absolutely right!!
Karizma Zmr Pgm Fi is not just a rumour. i fully believe that the new Karizma is coming for sure becoz India’s leading auto magazine “BIKE INDIA” has also confirmed the news related with karizma zmr. BIKE INDIA has lot of experience since many years. Their team will not be wronge at anytime. You should see the magazine published on 1 Aug09.Some informations are also available on their website. They don’t have the official launched date but they are sure that the new karizma will be in showrooms later this august and definitely before diwali. Im one of the registered user of bike India. I always try to find the informations about karizma zmr from every website but finally they suggest me to follow bikeindia. Apart from this, You can also imagine the present situation of Indian market. The competition is getting tuffer among the two wheeler companies. Today, Pulsar 220dtsi,yamaha r15, fazer are being preferred by younge generation and their demand is going to increase. After all this, how India’s leading two wheeler maker Hero Honda can stay behind? You should think of it instead of thinking about negative or positve comments. I was
thinking this is a rumour. Karizma will come soon as per the speculations. I also want to buy this bike but if you see improper informations, You will get confused. Let us see what
happens………
Thanks.
Thank U santhosh i had visited more than 10 showrooms in chennai and none of them let a word about this new karizma fi model.Thank God! U told this.I was about to book the R model.
anyway i will now go and book 4 the fi model.
i dont belive in bikeindia magazine, they said it two years back also………
I will be waiting…:-)
Hi Ambrose, I want to contact you. Plz Send your email to http://www.sameer4856@yahoo.co.in. I’m waiting for your reply.
ppl its such a confusing situation. here in NCR region i have visited around 25 showrooms and out of 25, 10 says that there is new zma and 15 says that there is no new zma \, its just a rumour.
lots of speculation on web also, there are fights going on on several blogs, for the new zma scoop.
what i think personally is that every manufacturer before launching a new model definetly declare officially about 2-4 months earlier before the launch so that the prospective buyers dont purchase similar model from their rivals….
but herohonda has not given any such confirmations….
even i have called hero honda head offices, their factories at gurgaon and haridwar but all says that the r version is under production and no new zma…
this situation is totally confusing and messy,,…
I agree with Ashwini’s comments. this situation is totally confusing and messy. no one has exact informations about new Karizma but if you’ve called hh head offices I think, no one from head offices will give you such confirmation .I had also called bajaj head offices about upcoming model of pulsar. but they said nothing about pulsar220 and the same was launched later that mnth. Sometimes i think personally, Are the spy photos taken by hh themselves for hearing the opinions of people? what you think friends?
Yes! even i feel the same way, that HeroHonda let those spy pics out to get initial response, by now there is this news every where that new karizma FI is coming, but know body knows when, not even my friend who has HH dealership in MP knows when will the new karzima hit the showroom, but one thing is sure that old Karizma R production has been reduced and new orders from dealers are not been obliged by the company, as in the coming days MOST PROBABLY JUST BEFORE DIWALI they will Launch the new Karizma FI. till then even its Specs will be only speculated. whether it is 223cc or 250cc with the new PGM FI.
I am eagerly waiting for this Bike & they who are making such False & Stupid Declarations that there is going to be NO NEW KARIZMA FI are only making fools of themselves.
Oh My God!!! Friends,I think this the first blog that contains 71 comments relating with the new karizma ZMR. What a response!!! and MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, “ONE CANT SAY THAT A RUMOUR WHEN YOU CAN EASILY SEARCH AND SEE THE DISPLAY OF A PARTICULAR MODEL ON SCREEN.” Becoz i’ve also seen the pictures of new karizma spread on many popular sites and blogs & this is not the modification done by someone becoz this bike is powered by Honda’s PGM-Fi(Programmable Fuel Injection)
I think, I’m ready to purchase brand new karizma r instead of modifying in this way. Ha Ha Ha…..Friends, karizma zmr pgm-fi must not be a modification & it’ll come for sure definitely before diwaali.
Hi Abu, you are right. Those who are making STUPID declarations gonna fall right on their faces as this time around it is not a rumor. Lets just put a full stop once and for all to this dilemma.
go to the below link
http://walls.indiauto.in/2009/07/new-karizma-fi-spy-photos-pics.html and press F!! to get a full screen. Guys its a brand new ZMR naked in front of your eyes !! cant you just believe it and stop just speculating of the so called rumor?!!
It may take a month or even two. But then havent we waited for last few years for this thing? So why hurry? Also HH created this premium segment when no “B”s and “Y”s were even capable of thinking it. So why would the king let the throne go so easily?
Its there . Almost there. And as the old saying goes-”Patience is bitter, but it bears sweet fruit.”
Cheers!
PPL I JUST SAW ON CNBC AWAAZ NEW CHANNEL THAT “HERO HONDA WILL LAUNCH NEW ZMR PGM-FI IN 2ND OR 3RD WEEK OF SEPTEMBER. PRICE WOULD BE AROUND 90 K EX SHOWROOM DELHI, WITH R VERSION TO CO-EXIST WITH NEW ONE, JUST LIKE STUNNER AND HERO HONDA GLAMOUR.”
Hi Ashwini,
Plz tell me When did you see? How can I see the same again? Plz reply I’m waiting for your reply.
My God! what anxiousness every bike fan is waiting for the Karizma FI.
Ashwini even let me also know, which Program on CNBC AWAAZ you saw about New Karizma FI. Would like to see a repeat telecast.
Just for all you crazy for Karizma guyz here is a Video Clip on Youtube, which I saw yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdHEz-1w-3k
It is nothing but the Latest Karizma PGM-FI caught on mobile camera while testing. Though is is fully covered you can easily make out that it is the Karizma FI coz of its Full-faring, Shape, Size, and the Golden Colored Engine. Pity that even this testing mule had skinny Rear Tyre.
Anyways, I am very excited for the Launch of this new Hot Bike, definitely by now Hero Honda must have canned the TV Ad for New Karizma FI featuring Hrithik.
Just watch-out for the Fireworks before DIWALI.
i saw it on biz news aired at 10 or 10.30 at night…..on cnbc awaz hindi news channel……
or u ppl can contact this hero honda dealership in delhi – oswal motors(they will confirm u that new zmr is on way to be launched). ph no – 011-27034485.
iam eagerly waitng for karizma zmr fi.may i know when it should be launching?please
Hi Ashwini Its a good news to hear.Can anyone say the actual date of its launch?????
Hey guys i just sold my pulsar 200 for the new karizma zmr pgm-fi. This bike gonna RULE THE ROADS. I just want to look the upset faces’ of 220 and r15 owners when i will ride my karizma infront of them. Yeahh THIS IS A KICKASS BIKE.
Hi Areeb,
I’ve also decided to buy the new karizma. I think We all New Karizma Owner should make a new biker team with the particular name. I’m just joking…Anyway
Thanks to Ashwini & Abu for doing the great job. Both have already shut up the mouths saying that the New Karizma is only rumuor. Thanks once again.
Thanks to Ashwini & Abu for doing the great job. Both have already shut up the mouths saying that the New Karizma is only rumuor. Thanks once again.
my dream bike is on the way hh karizma pgm fi will rule the roads i will definetly buy it and can any one tell me exact date when its launching
Watch closely the specs ( Wow..! we have the Six speed transmission heading our way – overdrive stuff ) + PGM-FI + HECS 3 sensors. All this would surely cost you more than 90k. The tacho console would have a left speedometer(Digital) and a right tripmeter fuel gauge etc(Digital) and looks some thing like this alphanumeric stuff =O=. Also we have a VFR style front fairing.
Only thing disappointing is the whole package with the tyres, However we get the same stability as that of thr ZMA R.
Dont know if it is the same sized mill as that of the ZMA(223 17bhp@7000) or else rebored mill with 20ps@7500 RPM. Let us wait and see.
mmmmhhhh!! sounds good to hear abt new karizma fi…m gonna buy that o exchanfe wid my karizma R.god whn wil it launch!!!
Kev! Man, I can’t believe its gonna gave 6-Speed Transmission with Overdrive…….WOW…is that it for real?
Digital Speedos have become order of the day in today’s Premium Bike Segment. Surprising how Kawasaki Ninja doesn’t have any Digital Stuff.
I am totally in awe of the Digital Speedo Console of Honda Civic / Pulsar / Apache. Yet, old gen Analog Speedos have their own Charm ….whats your take?
By the way what is “HECS 3 Sensors”?
Definitely this Hot Bike needs Bigger Shoes (TYRES)
Whatever be it this Bike gonna Rock On!
Hero Honda! you guys are really testing our patience.
Someone please tell me when it’s gonna launch exactly?
Just to amend my earlier comment wherein i had said the red color looks yucky…All i referring was the springs on shocks absorbers and not the sport red colored bike for which i have atomost respect. So guys dont feel offended if at all you have noticed it.
The bike is superb and so is the color…..Anyways sooner or later will post the review of my own black ZMR (PGM-FI).Cheers!
You deserve it.;)
Sandeep
this is the long term wtng 4 we peple who r crazy abt racing bike…..
nw after seeing new karizma zmr its tough to waite 4 its launch….
so hping it to be launch in this mnth and i am going to have this bike as it launch
I talked to the showroom guy…he said not before Deepawali. BTW I have bought Zma-R yellow one and enjoying it.
i think this bike rocks in india bcoz graphic wise they look like hayabhusa.and in 223cc u get more power and sporty look
plus point of this version is engine; graphic; and; speedometer
so abhi bajaj yamaha honda ki vaat lagne vali hai
U know guys the more i think the more this bike and karizma in general makes sense. I mean look at R1 for example. the 1000 cc beauty is a joy to behold but u cant ride it 7 days a week(even if u cud afford one). u cant ride one full day.they are meant only for a few hrs ride on track. the only option left are heavy cruisers cos sport tourers are plain ugly, check the international sport tourers they look like crap. karizma is one bike that has drop down gorgeous looks, can be ridden whole day and 7 days days a week traffic and all. check out other sport tourer from ducati(looks damn ugly), honda kawasaki etc and u will know that a more powerful karizma can hold its own against any bike in the world for pure functionality and looks. a true sports tourer. time will come wen we will see 500cc upwards karizma variants(and hopefully even 1200 cc ones) once the market is ready(only 500 ‘superbikes’ are sold in india every year) because this is one hell of a bike and u dont have to kill ur back if u want to ride it day long or week long as in the case of R1 or ducatis or even the silly r15 tht we get in india. And please dnt scream p220. what will be the quality after the recent price drop is neone’s guess.even the new karizmas dnt seem to hold as good parts as the first one tht was launched but it is still better than almost nething on indian roads.
you will not get any new version of Karizma on diwali, coz if they have then they will stop the production of ZMA, thats confirmed, and as i think, there is no ZMA in FI model.
thats my view.
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Author: deepak verma
Comment:
you will not get any new version of Karizma on diwali, coz if they have then they will stop the production of ZMA, thats confirmed, and as i think, there is no ZMA in FI model.
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Not necessary to stop production. As you can see its a totally new avtaar. Although, it will be same engine with new technology (pgmfi etc.. ), it will be priced much higher than current karizma. So, the current version will be pocket friendly version to the anticipated one.
Also remember Glamour pgmfi and Glamour carb both were available from Hero Honda. And the two looked identically same.
What I want to see if quality of plastic.. the body work..
the current karizma have very fragile rear plastic.
Actually, the plastic quality is not the issue.. the manner in which they have mounted it on chassis indicates that its done on purpose to ensure after sales bread and butter. –too bad!!
Only Yamaha have given the best build quality to Indian consumers.
(I own Karizma model:2006)
new KARIZMA FI goin to launch in 2nd week of december with insurance free offer on 31st dec booking..secret news
Hi RV
What? Secret News!!! Ha ha ha ha….
explain something with proof friend! We won’t believe unless you prove something. There are many experts in India working for various Magazines & news channels. They also confirmed the news that New Karizma will be launched definitely before diwaali but None of them have actual date of launching or booking and You’ve already decided the date of booking and made offer of free insurance? No one knows how will be the new bike atleast. Ha Ha Ha Ha…..
I agree with K. RoHaN. he is right.
Its comfirmed that, Hero honda going to stop, Their old models like Karizma ZMA or FI, they will have only one model after Diwali, its PGM FI. And Its more then 1 lakh. its also confirmed. im gonna guy this bike its also confirmed.
No Good News Yet!
I visited a HH Dealer, he had no idea when new KARIZMA FI is launching. No Date, No Pricing & No Specs were known to him.
All he told me that, there is meeting with HH Officials in a day or two in Delhi where he will come to know when exactly KARIZMA FI is coming.
He also told it may come after Diwali. Its difficult to digest as every Automobile maker 2-Wheeler or 4-Wheeler are launching new Models or at least new Variants to take full advantage of the Festive Season. It has been observed over the years that the Last Quarter of every year Sept-Oct-Nov-Dec, sale go up considerably.
I also visited Yamaha Showroom to checkout the Latest Variant or say a New Color Option in FAZER called FAZER Limited Edition.
Yamaha guy told that it was launched yesterday and they had on 5-6 Bikes in FAZER which are all sold and No-More avaiable even on Order, only available were Yamaha FZ-S with same Limited Edition Theme of White-Blue Combination Colors & Graphics…..at Premium of Rs.2000 just for new Color….looting public!
Whats wrong with HH Guyz? Sleeping or What?
Well I have a Hunch that, this Giant is currently sleeping, but once it Wakes-up……its gonna Shake-up the Biking Market…..
the above dude is wrong man !!!!
as far as i have heard about it
from a sales person the bike is gonna be dere in showroomz in mumbai on 20th september!!
karizma zmr … now
GAME ON!!!!!1
Hi Abu thanks for posting this message becoz you gave me chance to express myself. The dealer whom you met may be correct, knowlegeble & informative. I don’t mean that dealer is wrong. Dealer may be correct but as far as I know, Some dealers never give any exact informations about new launches becoz I’ve read somewhere in book of business laws that disclosing any informations before the product is launched is against the law for any dealer.(I want to tell something about a product but sorry for not disclosing its brand name) It is not a recent experience I had the in a showroom before a new model was about to launch in 15-20 days. I had gone to a nearby showroom that time.(I was too excited about that model). I requested him to give some informations related with it. but he told the product will take 2-3 months to come out becoz company is suffering from some difficulties. But the same was launched after 20-25 days!!!! look at my experience. I was shocked. Finally I think all of you should wait for offical launch of any product instead of getting confirmations & news from Dealers & showroom guys. Some showroom guys may not have enogh knowledge I also don’t have enough knowledge about all these things. Many of the users of this blog may be more knowlegable than me but what I suffered I explained.I see some blogs where some users have already stared blogwar on the matter of New Karizma ZMR. Dont know Why they’re doing this. Relax freinds let us wait and see what happend….
i booked new karizma fi at our local dealership with rs.10000 they insure delivery in navratras period any body have any query and quetion than call me @ +919779000001.
hey guy’s u r panicing a lot
don’t worry new karizma is coming in the market by the end of this year or may be some months before
hero honda is actually trying to make a fool of us by misguiding us thats all.
it will definately be a knight mare for bajaj, honda and yamaha
vrooooom!!!!!!! the roads
karizma is like heaven guys
and still in the market there is no bike that can give a competition to the karizma………
i agree wid troxx that ones hh wakes up then mind it! no one gives a competition to it. no one
You are right Truly Karizmatic, dealer have to abide by the rules of book.
But the GOOD news, I spoke to a very close friend who is a HH dealer in MP and he told me that the New KARIZMA FI is going to launch in next 2 days around 19-20 Sept and all the dealers are called by the company to Delhi for Product Presentation and other formal training program. Confirming to what HH dealer told me here, that there is a meeting in Delhi around 19th Sept.
The Bike will be in the market only around Diwali or after Diwali though its booking might start off soon after its Launch.
And my dealer friend has already booked one for himself, so Sumer Goyal could be right by saying that he has already booked the bike, though officially no dealer is taking any booking for the new bike as Company has not yet Officially launched the bike.
The BAD news is that its definitely going to be Priced over Rs. 1 Lac.
Question for Sumer Goyal: Did that dealer where you book KARIZMA FI give you any tentative Price? Ex.Showroom Mumbai?
The Excitement is increasing.
Watch-out Bajaj, Yamaha….
brother wait only ten days to see the real bike in all india.
19 sep 09 is launch date of new zma fi.
I too have confirmed from my dealer here in rajasthan. but what dsnt make sense to me is that if the bike is going to launch so soon y arent there any ads on television? something dsnt make sense. is the company planing a surprise launch and will launch the ads after its launch. on one of the blogs some claimed that he was in the stunters team and that the ad had hrithik roshan in it. but there is simply no publicity ne wer and if the bike was about to be launched in the tomorrow or the day after than it sure isnt normal.and confusing. m happy with my r but wud lov to see the new bike on road.
im too happy wid my r……
the new version is too ugly….i never will buy it…..
also hh is not sure about its success…thats why r version will also continue….today i visite hero honda factory…and i saw bikes being manufactured their….
Hi Abu
as our phone conservation i told about the company price of the bike is Rs.86000 Approxx + VAT + Exise + Carrier + Other duties like all vehicles sold in india = the bike reach at home approximate cost Rs 1.06 + insurance + registration etc.
Hi! Sumer, By the way when did we have a phone conversation? you must have spoken to somebody else and got confused.
anyways, the Price you are hinting is quite High as it doesn’t include Life Tax, Insurance & Registration. What will the Price be OTR then??
Current Karizma R is for Rs. 81,000 to 83,000 in different cities and this Price is ON-ROAD Price including all kinds of Taxes, Insurance & Registration.
and by your figures it gives an idea that New Karizma FI will be around priced Rs. 25,000 to 35,000 more than the current Karizma R, this pricing will hurt many prospective buyers like me.
At the most I was expecting it to be launched around Rs. 1 Lac (ON-RAOD) all-inclusive-price, that too only if the Bike had got a 250cc engine, 21 Bhp and a new 6-Speed Transmission. Of course with the new FI
But, if there is only a Fuel Injection System to it with Full Fairing, New Speedo Console. then it should be priced around Rs.90,000 to 92,000 ON-ROAD
Well the D-Day is here, today is 19th Sept, and my dealer friend is in Delhi for the Company Meet, lets keep fingers crossed, until we get some First-Hand Information about the MOST ANTICIPATED BIKE OF THE YEAR 2009.
hi
Sumer Goyal in which Stste R u in? I’m coming from TN still here there is no confirmation of zma fi.Please tell me or post a comment when the bike is launched in Ur state.I thing Could U confirm the exact price and tell me?
just wait guys… its surely going 2 b launched…
autocar india has also confirmed it…
it wud b my lyf….
Hi……
what a nice bike…………….
Realy very attractive……..
very mind blowing
Forget Confirmations Guys
THE NEW HERO HONDA KARIZMA FI IS LAUNCHED!!
Bike looks Good but really disappointing are the Specs as I read only 17.6 Bhp & No 6-Speed Transmission.
Still all the details are not yet known…..no word from HH
Bike looks Awesome though Headlight is not as impressive, as YAMAHA FAZER! It looks nothing different, very common / similar stuff is seen in the market.
Nothing ground-breaking but Only A Modified Version of Current Karizma R.
If you guys have got other details / Specs / Pics please share the URLs over here
To me only WHITE Color KARIZMA FI looks Better than other Colors, probably BLACK Color comes 2nd, But its really sad they have not introduced the Trademark YELLOW Color for this FI version of KARIZMA!
Guys The MOST AWAITED BIKE “HeroHonda KARIZMA FI” is Launched.
Though the Bike looks Good, with the striking Full Fairing & Unique Digital Speedo. But there are few let downs & few shockers.
Let downs are the the Headlights, which look very Common and not as Impressive & Striking as Yamaha FAZER. Fuel Tank doesn’t gel with that beautiful Full Fairing and also the rear-side profile looks little awkward.
The only Color this KARIZMA FI looks HOT is White color & 2nd comes Black, rest 2 colors Red & Blue look horrible. And its pity that HH guys gave a miss to their Trademark Yellow Color on this new Bike.
And the Shocker is, its the same 223cc Engine with ONLY 17.6 Bhp, No 6-Speed Transmission, Tyres could have better much better.
Over all I feel HH has just tried to give Cosmetic Modification to the current KARIZMA-R and only add a new thing to it i,e. Fuel Injection (FI).
I wish they had seriously put in some more efforts to it while designing, especially the Headlight, Fuel Tank & Rear-Side.
Keeping the same Old Engine Specs for a new bike is not a sensible move by HH.
Performance Enthusiasts, it real-time DISAPPOINTMENT for you guyz.
& MOST SHOCKING IS THE PRICE TAG Rs. 91,000 (Ex-Showroom) making it go beyond the Rs.1 Lac ON-ROAD-PRICE.
Give your comments comments.
Yo Friends,
Good News!! that I confirmed from Goa State also. Bike will be in showrooms within 10-12 days!! Excitement is increasing. Autocar, Overdrive & Bike India all have already confirmed that bike will be in showroom definitely before Deepaavali. Onroad price will be around 1,08,000 and will not exceed more than 1,10,000.
Hi Karizma ZMR!!!
You are looking like a white dressed new bride! I think my GirlFriend is nothing… You are so cutec & beautiful! When u r coming!! I’m eagerly waiting for you!
Hi guys the bike has been launched to see the photos visit http://www.indianautotalk.com
well the wait is finally over.Damn all that excitement for this bike?17.6 bhp??17.6bhp??? man if this is true than hh is surely going to the dogs. and what with the ugly headlight?there is one shape i hate more than nething else in the world and that is the shape of headlamps of suzuki gixxers and in india suzuki gsx150. and hero gives the same shape. damn. i was hoping the headlamps wud be somthin like a fireblade that hh will take its cue from suzuki is pure blasphemy.i know enough not to judge from pics but still the headlamps look pure ugly.my r looks much better and hey do they expect me to pay almost 30000 more on road for .5 bhp increase in power???? the only thing that consoles is the amazing speedo. it can beat speedos of all the ducatis and yamahas and kawasakis combined. pure beauty. but otherwise thumbs down. agreed the fi wil give qicker throttle response(but that increases the cost by only 4-8 thousand in market-m a mech engg i know)and the oil cooler(now tht can increase costs) will make engine capable for even longer tours without stops adding to the already legendery capacity of karizma(i have done 700 kms non stop on my r, ofcourse the backache killed me but the bike was ready for more the next morning) but still even on the technological scale a lot remains to be desired vis-a-vis power and torque.and a top speed of 135kmph, as the company claims, is also not in the range of r15 and p220.
another thing is that the front and rear just dont match something is surely amiss.
and man the ugly headlights.oh good lord the ugly headlights.
hey rusty, i think ur brain got some rust, the headlight of the bike is quite good. and ZMR is quite beauty. and Dont compare it with R15 and P220, its uncomparable.In terms of technology and in term of Quality of product. A guy Who has bought allready a Pulsar or yamaha bike he will never like to buy a Bajaj or yamaha, I know ders lots of victim. But the person WHo has Hero honda he will always buy Hero honda. in terms of comfort, reliability, and in service. Hero honda is best.Its company claim that top speed is 135, but everyone knows wen karizma RUN none can chase………….Thats why people jealous…Because they cant win.
i know the issues with pulsar. a frnd bought 180 and when after some initial problems he went to showroom the guys having learnt tht he usually went more than 70kmph advised him to go slow.bajaj is that bad. and m yet to meet a content pulsar owner though i no doubt agree tht there nust be many.as for this new version i agree tht with eliminating the need of manual choke apart from other tech upgrades it is technically strong.views about headlights can vary the desigmers surely felt the headlamps wer good enough. i did not like the headlight wen the karizma was first launched but later fell in love.but tht is cos i m stuck on dual headlights like the fireblade and r1.neway u shud understand that i wrote the harsh review only cos i was disappointed by the small increase in power and torque and what with kawasaki ninja 250 to be launched wer will this bike stand? but then it is a tourer so there is no ground for comparision.but let me tell u that karizma is easy to beat on straight roads and curves by both 220 and r15 provided they r in right hands.only thing is tht karizma wins in 0-60kmph drags but after that within 150 mts p220 gain almost a bikes length over my current r. ride quality is no doubt superior but tht is manily owing to straight up riding position.shockers of 220 too are almost as good karizma.on later thought i feel tht the bike isnt really ugly as most ppl on diffrent blogs claim but they will learn to appreciate it. also the hight price of the bike has more to do with the heavy royalty that hero has to pay to honda and less with exceptional quality which no doubt comes with all hh bikes.yamaha is pathetic with their 150cc toy bikes but surely hh cud have given more power in the engine and atleast 6 speed transmission.now wer was the problem in that?neway i hope this bike will do good. all the goodwill to hh.and as for u, u shud not have taken offence on my comment and made a personal remark afterall i do have right to freedom of speech.
its too cool
but price is more than my poket mony
i agree with rusty….
Even i do have a grunt about the headlight…Guys there have been more than 100 entries on this thread and not a single bad mouthing comment towards a brand or a person.So we need to maintain the decorum and express what we feel.
I am so committed to this new karizma that very soon will be buying one despite some cons that i am ready to bear with and the heavy price as well.
Cheers!
when the karizma was launched for the first time, it claimed a premier price.but it was worth it.there was no other bike in that segment and hh was the first to trust the indian buying power wen the yamaha and suzuki still treated us like 3rd world country that wer fit only for bikes the rest of the world rejected.even after hh launched its 4 stroke cd 100 we still got 2 stroke bikes from yamaha and other japs as we wer not good enough for better bikes acc. to them(all the yamaha350 fans read tht wen it was launched in india after it was already banned in most countries including US for not meeting emission stndrds and we only got the left overs and not cos yamaha respected us as customers) and we got crap for decades. hh deserves all the honour and love for trusting us.the first karizma deserved the heavy price it was too good. but with current zmr if this is true tht it has a top speed of only 126 kmph then my heart aches.being a regular tourer i have often felt tht the road conditions permitted faster cruises sply the golden corridor near udaipur,rajasthan and i was counting on better speed as tht can be made use of.first karizma was too fast for the then roads and the competetion but with the cheaper bajaj and new r15 they shud have kept the top speed atleast in the range of 135-140 as some sites claim.but i saw a scan of the brochure and hence m apprehensive.on one of the sites i found detailed report on the technical aspects of the bike and this bike beats allother.so those who dnt go touring as much as i do or dnt have access to the very fine and empty roads like the golden quad stertch of udaipur maybe this bike will function well.i just dnt want it to loose to the upcoming ninja and other competition.my best to hh.but somethin is missing.
the new karizma good for nothing..
HH suck……..!!
do something new……..HH……..!!
hi this is Tanmay Hotkar.
I was really waiting for this version of Karizma but after long time I purchesed other. This was my dream that Karizma with fuel injection & fully digital meter, also rear disk break, because this will going to give very tough fight to Yamaha YZF R15 & Bajaj Pulser 220 which dont have fuel Injection now. So, now I think the fastest bike & biggest engine in India is HH Karizma. Now it is hanving more style, more power & more better performance. I am a true lover of HH n now more for Karizma. Now I am feeling that why I hurried to purchas bike?
Loooooootttts of LOVE for KARIZMA.
TANMAY HOTKAR.(9867249661)
I saw the ZMR in delhi.
It looks cool, man.
Just too good, it zoomed past me when i was at a U trun.
It was legendary Yellow;(color of Karizma)
i am impresssed with digital speedo..(didnt copy those with p220 n apache 180..)…bt price tag above 90k.without ny power upgrade..kk a lil “ps”.bt still dont impress…fi hasnt been succesful in indian market yet..look at p220 ..i’ve been always fan of karizma bt aftr so much of awaition still 223..guys do smthn.i expctd at laest 300…nywaysgood wid the looks..
rear tyres r still 100/80…at least it should be 120..it would hv given it muscular look..impresed with “welcome note feature”.whch cm in high end bikes above 10 lac/…kool..
monoshocks r missin ..
k i m sure it wil reach 150kph ease..overall i wl say nt disappointin bt nt impressive though…
150???? u r wrong friend.the website of hh says 126kmph.the hh says the karizma top speed to be 125.i have a karizma r and have touched 130 but that is mostly speedo error not real time and the karizma analog speedo was always wildly optimistic.digi will be accurate so u r unlikely to see more than 127-128 ever.ofcoourse there is a video on youtube showing kari to go 146 without ne performance upgrades but tht is a bad lie.
150 is a dream i wish was true frnd.i wish was true.
Hai, I saw this bike in Kochi showroom. It looks really good than in pics. When I saw the pics of it in the web, I was not at all impressed, but when I saw it in the showroom, I was really surprised because I never expected it to be so. It really looked damn good and sporty. The only problem I felt was the rear tire. Rear tire should have been thicker like YAMAHA FZ16, then it could have been much better. At one first look, one will definitely want to buy it.
hi
its yogesh
i m excited to see this bike
but not to bought
because its a boaring bike
not preefereble
not comfort
not successfully
not looking good
only for hero honda brand
if u have any obction then call me @09437625716
by by friends
subharatri
can any body knows where zmr available for instant delivery in north india.i want to buy it as soon as possible.
i already owned karizma 03 actually i give all amount (90000) last month(14 Sep) to our local dealer but bike not avail here so the dealer said to refund my payment bcz of long waiting if the bike is avail any where i will contact them to buy it same day.
Sumer Goyal
9779000001
I think that the new ZMR can’t beat P220 & R15 now don tell me about power diff in R15 & zmr the one imp thing is the true automobile engineer have to maintain the power to weight ratio of the vehicle….
I am from Assam. Went to the showroom yesterday to ask about the current rate of Karizma R. But when I entered the showroom and saw Karizma ZMR, I couldn’t stop myself from getting close to ZMR. It looked gorgeous in real life. I instantly asked the dealer if that bike could be bought, but sadly he said that the bike has not been launched yet for sale, and that it was kept in the showroom just for display. The guy told me that the price would be 98400 Rupees on road and I would get the bike within this month. Man! that bike really looks good in real. It was red in color. The size of the bike seems to be huge too. I have never rode a bike maybe that’s why it seemed good to me. Any way I will now have to decide which bike to buy. (1) Royal Enfield Bullet
(2) Karizma ZMR
(3) Karizma
Man I too saw the Bike in Flesh yesterday.
Believe me guyz Photos cannot really justify what Karizma ZMR is in REAL.
One Word the can describe in its limited meaning is “STUNNING”
No other word comes to my mind. Its a Sheer Beauty. What I saw was in Black Metallic Color and it looks Awesome!
It bigger than what I had imagined. All u R15 & Pulsar Fans, U will get floored at the first look itself.
Second, third, or how many ever times u look at ZMR, u just cant stop admiring, u call it a Copy of any other Bike or what ever.
Just have a look at the Digital Speedo Console, it puts to shame all the Bikes that are currently in the market.
THE ONLY SINGLE -Ve Aspect of the Bike which almost 99% of it Admirers will also agree is the size of Rear Tyre. Its just too skinny for the size of that Bike & it doest go with the Rear-end of the Bike
check this link every body. This can be the actual modification of the karizma ZMR which should be considered ny HeroHonda(Munjals) or the Design engineers from HH.
Below am pasting the link for the Modified ZMR
http://s565.photobucket.com/albums/ss98/sonushar/?action=view¤t=karizma1.jpg
Its actually my mod of this crazy god. taken from Honda Combines ABS 1000cc CBR
Its a good bike but i have a confusion wheater to take R15 or this mighty Karizma ZMR P
Hi,
All HH Fans can any one tell mi when d zarima ZMR going to be lauch in mumbai. and when it booking going to starts bzc i can;t wait for a loo long time.
Hey guys.. i had a p220 eariler.. u knw wat.. even girls hate to sit on it.. p220 sucks..both in performance n in looks.. i was miss guided by my own bro in buying p220.. BUT NOW i am going for new ZMR.. i like to change only the tyres of it after buying..
Have Fun For all new ZMR owners..BE SAFE…
CHEERS..
…hey …guys ..but still I guess Pulsar 220 ..stands out to be the fastest bike as the company claims …what does the hero honda claim about new karizma ……….only quality quality quality …………….whats the fuzz about quality …….I dont know how many out there are ready to pay for quality & looks …….with out a speed claim ( youngsters first prefer speed then perhaps looks ……….I think most them expected a much more faster bike from hero honda….but new karizma is a disappointment ……….
@above…
I guess you dont own either bike.. moreover there is not a huge speed difference between the two bikes. Your comment felt as if p220 takes to 7th heaven! it doesnt.
Where speed and stability is important at the same time.. karima becomes the right bike (alongside Yamaha R15). The pulsars does not have as good weight distribution as Karizma and R15 does. And .. consider test-riders claiming ZMR being better than Karizma/(R) in the stability and comfort.
The point is clear..
If you are some1 who wants a hooligan machine with raw power, then Pulsar is your bike.
If you want a bike that can give ample power, speed and provide you with superior comfort for daily commutation and occasional long rides.. then Karizma/ZMR is ideal! (of course you can take pulsar on long rides.. but be prepared to bare the fatigue)
And both brands thrive on this aspect. If they cross in to each others traits then there is a risk of losing its face value.
hey anup dude…….no bike in this world takes you to to 7th heaven hahahaha…………..I own P220 n Karizma R(Old) and honda unicorn ..as well ok…but Pulsar 220 is worth ..80K …..but Karima ZMR does not justify its price tag above 100K ……….I have rode Pulsar 220 mumbai to banglore …I dint stuck anywer…….am not degrading any of the bike …..If you say bajaj quality is not good …then how come every 3rd bike in town is pulsar I think your age is 40+ …so you are right on your point stability ..weight n all …okhe….chill dude….we are here to share opnions and not to argue( If company starts making bike for quality and looks, lacking speed …0% sale
@razzyan … LOL! another one!
It doesnt need a 40yrs+ to tell you what about weight distribution of a bike. If you really had Karizma and P220 you would have never made such a comment at all..
I never disagreed that p220 is not worth the price.. and all pulsars are worth the price. That is the selling point of Bajaj anyway .. and its plastic and paint job are better than what I found on Karizma(old).
My group goes on long rides every year.. just that Karizma gives hell lot better comfort than Pulsar.. and it is a well established fact which various auto-test-riders have affirmed time and again.. neither your bglore-mumbai ride nor my say change anything buddy
so y argue!
“we are here to share opnions and not to argue” — u r right.. my opinion is that if you need raw power then pulsar.. if u need ride comfort with ample power then Karizma is good.. I have only elaborated that in last post.. guess u missed it!
“( If company starts making bike for quality and looks, lacking speed …0% sale” — lacking speed ??? you are saying that abt karizma… 130kph opposed to 135 kph of pulsar(bcos u havent mentioned any other bike in ur post)? Is that what you call lacking ?
Oh.. btw.. you disgraced many drag racers of India by your 40+ age comment
Hey dude ………..
( If company starts making bike for quality and looks, lacking speed …0% sale” — lacking speed ???” you are saying that abt karizma… 130kph opposed to 135 kph of pulsar”..you got it wrong ….am comparing Old and New Karizma …….No much improvement on power aspect …….same speed / same mileage rather less I guess/ same power output ( BHP ..juz .6 increase which does not make much off difference ……overall only Full body faring added…….??? and ..Programmed fuel injection added…..huuuuh….nows whats tat ….in simple terms …if any modification is done to th bike the Chip inside can be re programmed/mapped with a laptop connected using a serial or USB cable, while the engine is running…….a major selling point of Karizma tats it …………..for which tey r charing 30K extra ….
anyways ….now lets freeze…….chill….all is fair in quality and speed ….
Thats not entirely right.. PgmFi is a technology from Honda (used in cars as well) which does a lot more than just being fuel injection. It also has catalytic converter mods what Honda calls HECS3. All this has definitely come at a cost to Hero.. and eventually the consumer will pull from their pockets. Whether its right tag or not.. I cant say.. I have yet to ride the bike.
On paper.. the ZMR is not very different from Karizma/R
But PgmFI will do more than just 0.6 BHP.. Let me explain.. Karizma’s Carb is inconsistent.. even slightest climatic change affects the performance of the bike (those with air filter keep a set of diff jets). Here PgmFI will keep the power delivery constant even at altitude. So performance wise thats the only thing that will come out clear when riding the bike. Of course not a big one wrt existing Karizma.
re-programming.. well.. I think that may not happen. I dont think HH/Honda has given scope for it. If I am not wrong, then bike is perhaps speed-limited.
More than the cost of the bike.. I am more concerned about after sale service. I had very hard time with HH service center. Electrical issue and u r screwed. They can never find.. they will tell you to replace entire wiring !! In ZMR of course a device will help locate the issue unlike Karizma. but still I am not confident with HH service for Karizma and ZMR. They are good with splendours and passions..
now the guys having 220,r15…
cant stand on roads ….
Well reading this whole thread again and the comments I just realised how companies lack ethics and post comments like bike is not being launched just to save their sales.
karizma zmr is a very good bike and my thought is karizma zmr always good pulsar 220cc bike i am always purchase karizma zmr in kanpur city
krizma zmr 350cc launch
i have wait for krizma zmr350cc n very nice look
I’m coming to IND on OCT 22nd.I’m getting my ZMR Black, I couldn’t wait for 350cc..Any suggestions?