Hi all, this is Shyam Prasad Nandigam, basically from Eluru-Andhra Pradesh, currently residing in Bangalore-Karnataka. Today I am narrating a love story of mine, and yes it’s a love story. A love tale between man and machine. I am 5Ft 9inches tall currently doing the most boring job in the world, i.e. “Working as software Engineer”. I am not a racer, but I love machines, sports bikes, and cars and am a freak of long tours.
It all happened in the year 2003, when Hero Honda launched the first 225cc bike in India with brand name “Karizma” with the tagline “Jet Set Go”. I fell in love as soon as I saw it, may be this is called as love at first sight. Later in 2007 they upgraded the graphics and named it “Karizma R” with the tagline “Always Game”.
Undoubtedly the new version impressed me more than the previous version and I strongly decided in my mind that one day or the other I am going to get that one. But in year 2009, hero Honda came up with a complete new look to the bike and named it as “Karizma ZMR” with the tagline “Above All”. As in all love stories, there is a villain, and here comes the villain “Money”. Due to financial crisis it took me 7 years to marry my lady (here on wards I will refer to my bike as “My Lady”). Initially I thought of taking “Karizma R” as it is 20,000 rupees cheaper, but after so much of research and reviews (even I had taken one from Deepak, bikeadvice.in) I decided to go for “Above All” lady.
For all die hardcore fans of R15: I agree that R15 is the highly advanced technological bike, but it is a bike for racing. It is good on circuits, but surely this bike is not meant for city riding and touring. For all die hardcore fans of P220:I agree that pulsar 220 gives more power when compared to 225cc Karizma, but there is no reliability for Bajaj products, within 2 years the bike performance is lost completely. For a guy who changes bikes frequently, he can go for Bajaj, but one who plans for a long relationship, HH is the first choice.
What made me to pick ZMR over Karizma R?
- Obviously, the looks at first
- GRS rear suspension,
- LED Tail Lamp, Tubeless tyres, rear Disc brake, split handle bar and new improvised digital dashboard
- “Above All”, it’s the mileage which is 10Kmpl more than R’s mileage due to the advanced PGM-FI technology.
So I guess, 20000 rupees extra is worth in long run due to the petrol costs when compared to Karizma R. The bike has the best comfort as I found that it doesn’t shake at higher speeds, the braking is better, the suspension is excellent and the beat of the engine is awesome. You will definitely fall in love with the beat. The Oil cooled technology does its job at its best; I didn’t hear any sounds even when the engine is stopped after a high speed run. (Generally we hear some sounds like ‘tik’ ’tak’ while the engine is cooling) Though it looks heavy, it doesn’t feel that you are carrying a heavy vehicle; you won’t feel that you are riding a bike which weighs 159Kg.
The tubeless tyres are perfect for a touring bike; it does its job in reducing the weight. I reached a speed of 113 Km/h, but surely can say that we can extract more. I am just waiting for the opportunity. I was inspired by my best pal who named his bike. I did the same. Let me introduce my lady “Goldy”; A small review of the same:
Styling: It’s not a sticker job, but a complete makeover. Karizma has always been regarded as a bike with a cool design. The Karizma ZMR takes this forward. The bikini fairing is gone and the full fairing is here. The distinctly shaped headlamp with twin position (pilot) lamps reminds me of Suzuki’s GSR series. The paint quality is top notch and many would praise the body graphics and decals. Karizma ZMR looks electric in pearl white.
Engine: The 16 bit ECU processor uses idle air control valve and Honda Evolutional Catalyzing System (HECS) ensures better idling characteristics and lower emissions. But all these have pumped up engine power by a meager 0.6bhp to 17.6bhp at 7000rpm and unchanged 18.35Nm of peak torque. A five speed transmission and anti judder clutch gets the juice out of this mill. Not so excited! Remember don’t judge the bikes by spec.
Performance: You can’t see but feel! Under the fairing many things have changed. Now you have 6-sensors working overtime to ensure that your ride is pleasure. The 223cc, PGM-FI, oil cooled mill uses throttle position sensor, bank angle sensor, crank position sensor, oxygen sensor, manifold absolute pressure sensor and intake air temperature sensor. It’s refined and the acceleration is steady and smooth. Even on potholed bad roads ZMR offers superior ride quality. It doesn’t matter whether you are a rider or a pillion, it offers supreme comfort. Hero Honda retains the ergonomics of Karizma. Addition of split handle bar increases your comfort.
Dashboard: The digital cockpit welcomes you with a message “Welcome aboard Shyam… ” and sign off with “Bye, c u soon Shyam”. You have to toggle between the two buttons mounted on top of the speedometer to switch modes. The panoramic large display gives you everything you need except in hot sun. Real time mileage indicator, 2 trip meter and digital bar tachometer, digital fuel level indicator, digital clock and digital bar tachometer should be more than enough for any mathematician to analyze data.
Downside:
- It doesn’t have back lit LED’s for controls
- It doesn’t have sensor to auto off the blinkers
- Due to the PGM-FI, the bike has to be serviced in authorized service center only
- The costliest bike comes with the costliest maintenance; all the parts which are not covered under motor vehicle insurance are too expensive, for example the front plastic costs more than 30000 to replace.
Verdict: This bike to put in simple terms the Tourer has become even more better with the advanced FI technology that is reliable at high altitudes and also being it as Hero Honda, will work for the years to come as strong as a Stallion. So, people who can afford that extra money will definitely be satisfied with that extra features that Hero Honda gives.
– Shyam Prasad Nandigam
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Hello Shyam Prasad Garu! may be ide e site lo first telugu guy post chesina review kavvachu. anyway a detailed though funny review. Nenu kuda meelage bike freak ni. koti rupayala car kuda bike mundu baladoor. just like u i love my bike and i’ve been into relationship with my RTR for the last 3 years. I am a web designer from Hyderbad, proper Gudivada mee oori pakkane
Hope ill see your reply soon.
first of all, use a language that is understood to all, congratulations u r the first telugu guy.
@Garu: Love your job and like your girl (bike)
Hope could see your next post soon!
Hai Prasad,
Your passion and deep love for the beloved machine which goes to the extent of calling it as your lady is awesome. It’s great that you young guys (I am 50 and my son is 23)love your bikes so much. Best Wishes.
Do care for the safety while enjoying your dream machine.- Kanagu
this bike has so many sensors but why only 17.6 ps my rtr 180 with no sensor even fi it make 17.3 ps
hiiiii dude, it was really an awesome and funny review .. i also own a karizma ZMR blue coloured . this bike is awesome man , better throttle response , a very good mileage of 40-50 kmpl, very good looking , with good road grip and the most awesome part is its braking capabilities specially front brakes.. if we choose Karizma ZMR over pulsar 220 then we can save something around RS 15000-20000 in a single year on petrol, if we travels daily 100 km. And also we got the quality of hero honda.
according to me ,
we should not go for zmr bcoz
in this price we can get a r15 (little more money)
r15 looks far more better than zmr and it has a liquid cooled engine and many more features and its a yamaha ,
yes yamaha.
i am going to buy a r15 in a month .
hi mazid,
is it true ur zmr give 40-50 kmpl
is it highway performance or city performance
tell me friend i want to buy this 1
@banjara
Right ZMR has a mileage of 45 in city drive..i am having a ZMR and giving me a 47 …mostly drive in city…
nice review……..
didnt find about milage/litre,
i want to know the milage difference in PGM-FI and ordinary carb?
so wats milage u getting?
its about time sum1 posted a review of this bike!!!!!
gr8 review!!!!!
made me confused between r15 n zmr..=[
Very nice review Shyam Prasad Nandigam, congratulations on your new bike. I would say that you are one of the lucky owners of ZMR. When I enquired about Zmr, the waiting period was 4 months in Chennai and 3 months in B’lore showrooms. Most of Karizma fans are taking a u turn and buying a p220 of Fz bikes. I have heard some of the owners of P220 saying that, they wanted to buy a karizma but because of the waiting period they switched over to Pulsars. Enjoy buddy, and ride safe
Hero honda bikes are just craps..They dont have their own R and D.I sold off my cbz xtreme within 1 month..It shakes at a speed of 80km/hr.HH bikes are only known for their reliability.They dont have the guts to introduce a racing bike…
Very nice review.It’s really a great bike!
Hey Prasad,
Must say a nice post!!! I too am proud owner of the Karizma ZMR… residing here in Bangalore, same doing the most boring job in the world
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The engine is too refined and does not give any jerks or any sort of problems at higher speeds… after my first servicing I took my baby to a top speed of 120 kmph and oh my God… she did it with style
Also you are correct that though it looks bulky, but it isn’t that much…
The post does show all aspects of the bike and too agree that it is bike with whom you fall in love with instantly…
Nice… keep it up..
‘Dramatic’ review. Please let only the people who’ve used the bikes to post their complaints about reliability.
Its a Pleasant Review, But I wonder why do you need LED Back lit Switches?? Do You want to look at the Switches every time when you use them in dark?
by bajaj pulsar 180 is still running fine after 3 yrs….no problem…
For all die hardcore fans of Karizma.. the bike starts rattling and makes noise after few year….my friend’s karizma had engine problem….the engine had ceased..only after 2 yrs….his engine had to be opened 4 times…..where is the reliability……
u know why….
1. aftr 7 years they made this silly design, which is nothing but looks like a modified karizma tht a locla mechanic would have done better in few grands.
2. why they havent changed the tank shape , it looks so mismatched with the bike…though whole bike is the combination of ugliest parts ever,tail lights & rear panels from cbz extreme , tank of zma , body is unthoughtfull ,its like whatever fits no logic at all(one should look at R15′s) n yes front from suzuki gsx (what the fucking connections is between honda & suzuki,god knows,they jsut did copy,perhaps they shold have considered copying frrm honda stable rather cbr…but omg wait…. honda makes the worst designed sports bike even in the international market …oh wow…)
3. stickers…. oh yeah .they truly copied even the style of stickering form hayabusa(suzuki again,evn a 12 yr kid will prompt it …”dekho hayabusa jaisa sticker”…damn right kid….it is a copied one rather a cheap one…)
4 . what is the reason of costing it 20000 more….all hondas are just taking advantage of its name , simply fooling india thts it..a simple fuel injection wont cost 20 grands more nor those heavy plastics!!
5. what id in RETURN..ok…they took 1
wts d mileage in bangalore city
ya niks i agree with you..HH Has copied something or the other from the other existing bikes..and after 7 years they have just upgraded the bike from 17 bhp to 17.6 bhp..The performance remains the same due to the increase in weight of the bike..come on hero honda…
ya i agree with you niks..
@niks………..
none of your points actually makes sense except the 4th one
1. “silly design”??? who r u to “declare” it as silly?? evrybody has a different opinion regarding the looks of a bike. that is strictly personal. u mst hv taken cre of it.
And yes, a local mechanic can do a better job than the honda professionals. A local mechanic surely has a more intense R&D dept. n obviously a much much better knwldge abt the aerodynamics n designing of the bike. and how can v ignore the fact abt QUALITY . a local mechanic will use top notch prodcts n the plastics wud surely last for 10 odd years. Honda people dont stand a chance against THE LOCAL MECHANIC.( i think u might hv got my point)
2. why shud have they changed the tank shape??? karizma’s knee recesses are just PERFECT. no bike in India is more comfortable than the karizma for long rides n thats bcoz of its tank’s knee recesses.
agreed to the fact that front looks copied frm suzuki gsx bt wats wrong in it?? every bike in this wrld is either inspired or based on another.
well u mentioned it has a combi of “ugliest parts”. but IMO the led tail are good, big enuf for the big bike. the only drawback in its designing is the rear tyre wich is a bit thinner for the size of the bike(strictly IMO)
3. “hayabusa jaisa sticker”…….so wat man??? u wont deny the fact that it certainly looks edgy. and if u do, n think that it looks gud only on the hayabusa, then go ahead and buy 1 (if u can)
4. this time i cmpletely agree wid u. 20000 is too mch. a hike of 10000 wud hv been welcmed but 20k is certainly too mch.
5. god knws wat the 5th point is all about.
nicks no offense, bt i thot that ur comment was too biasd. n looks like u simply hate the new karizma (or the honda brand). so i jst made an attempt to try to clear ur thots about karizma.
as far as this review is concernd, Shyam u hv done a gr8 job. congrats for ur new ride. happy riding n ride safe.
you re just a hero honda cry baby…….the bike is ugly…
I too Agree with you Niks, Except Point 3, Atleast HH is coying designs from a World Class Bike, But what about others like UG 1,1.5,2,3,3.5, 160 Refresh,160FI, 180 etc.
Moreover I personally had a chance to ride a ZMR for about 30-35kms, The bike is not where in comparison with the P220 in terms of Performance, but you get the “Gliding/flying in Air” feeling like the R15 because of the absence of vibes over 100kmph , which is not present in any other Indian bike except these two, be it the Royal Enfield or Avenger.
Looks, same as you I hate to see a Yellow color ZMR.
look i appreciate the things wich r good about smthing. n also dont hesitate in criticizing the points wich r not gud. as far as the ZMR is cncrnd…..it looks a gr8 bike to me. n sch a biased comment about it seemd awkwrd to me.
Sir,
Iam pleased with ur review..
I’ve always ignored pulsar generations and their reviews..
Iam going 2 take this bike as I was waiting for launch of this vehichle in Kannur District(Kerala)..
Here it costs Rs.1,03,000…
Just two Questions,
Whats the mileage nw u r getting ?? and
Any issues so far ???
Pls post ur reply…. Thankx in Advance..
hi, Vivek i m from assam i want a bike is zmr is a right choice?
Design:
HeroHonda nerve concentrates on design. This design simply wears a big skirt in front and the rear like stamped by elephant.
Even R15 Design is worst.. Go and see the R125 Design.
If I covered my bike from head light to bottom of engine is this full fearing bike?
Front Fearing:
Simply copied from suzuki hayabusa (GSX1300R ). See that bike Engine is 1300cc so that they designed that such a huge one.
Letter ZMR looks like Chinese letter.. That to simply copied from suzuki hayabusa..
Rear:
If the bike has monoshock and underseat exhaust then the rear need this much of width. Unnecessarily they designed this…
ZMR is simply eyewash bike. There is no change in performance between ZMR and old Karizima. It got simple refinement bcos of Fuel injection. But R15 is for better than ZMR.
Want to criticized by others then go and buy a ZMR… LOL
The new version of hero honda karizma-karizmaZMR has came up as an ultimate bike at an affordable range. It has got a dashing look liked by all bike lovers.On my first look I thought it was any version of Hayabusa but later I came to knew about it. According to me it a comfortable,powerful,stylish and unique looking bike
hi all,
a bigggggggggggggggg thanks for your response
and for all those who are asking about the mileage: in bangalore city roads i am getting 36Kmph…thats not too bad i guess… and on highways it is 40+
hello anil—-, mimmalni garu ani pilavali antara?
just kidding..
ee garlu idlylu manaki endukandi..:)
any way thanks for the first comment and sorry for my late reply…
R u making any kind of community out here?
you guys write in the english…..
hi Vivek.S,
you are lucky to get this bike for Rs.1,03,000…
i took the same in bangalore for Rs.1,10,000…
Ex-Showroom cost:94,XXX
Insurance : 2,XXX
Reg and Road Tax:13,XXX
Total :1,09,XXX
most of them agree with me…..i have also ridden it many times…it doesnt perform and those skinny tyres look out of place…actually everything is just assembled from here and there and copied into one…17ps.WTF.
go ride a RTR Fi or RTR180 & see how performance and design of the bike should be…TVS & BAJAJ are the sole indian manfucterers who make something sensible at sensible price.
one more its just an cheap design of chinese and filthy japanese mind…thtsall.which has nothing to offer..yuck!!
i agree that bajaj and tvs upgrades same thing but they have design of thr own PULSAR & APAChe are lookers and not copied from any china or japanese bikes.
and the winner are ofc both of them cause they lack nothing..
apache 180 has 17.3 ps which is more thn karizma so it perfroms better than karizma in every aspect rather efficiecny performance or take RTR-Fi it is a smooth and most grunty one..one should learn about FUel injection from RTR,and the big thing is it doesnt even cost 20-30 thousand more.
@shaym prasad avasaram ledu bro, u seems to be around 25 or somethin and im 22. if possible catch me in facebook gmail or twitter. this is my id “ani446@gmail.com” . awaiting for your reply take care n drive safe
hi friends , i was just 14 years when my father bought me my first bike hero honda passion plus. the bike was awesome man . easily touches 90kmph. then after 3 years, i sold my passion plus and my father bought me apache rtr 180,because i was a racing maniac, this bike was truly a beast man . then 2 months ago on my 18 birthday my father bought me blue coloured karizma ZMR. when i compare both bikes, i found that Apache rtr 180 has better accelaration but only upto 60 kmph, after then karizma ZMR rules. both the bikes have same mileage 40-45 kmpl in cities. I want more power and top speed (coz i love speed) , then i think to modify my bike . ZMR was fi so it was not easy to modify even it was very new . So i modified my apache rtr 180. i put NGK iradium spark plug and spark plug wire , K and N r-1060 air filter, got a new exhaust system,along with a new high perfomance crank shaft and ring-piston , and a urbo kit and high engine tuning. i got all these acesorries from http://www.performancezone.co.in . after all this installation my bike becomes a land rocket . its 0-100 is in just 6.5 seconds and its top speed is now 171 kmph single seat on 10000 rpm. all this modification cost me something around rs 60000. i think that even a ninza 250 can’t touch me in a drag. the souund of my bike is now like a jet plane . And now my bike is also capable of flewing girls skirt. ha ha ha.
Hey niks,
I think u r personally against to Hero Honda products just because they use the technology from japan i.e. from Honda.
I appreciate that our Indian makers like Bajaj and TVS and their own R&D and giving tough competition, but if they are not reliable at the end of the day, what’s the use of that R&D!
In S/W industry we have term called beta version, which means a software product is released to market and then analyze its negatives based on user’s feedback and then modify it accordingly and new version was released.
My dear niks our proud Bajaj is doing the same, they release so many versions which are not at all consistent, it’s just experimenting the market for which royal consumers have to pay.
And coming to TVS, once upon a time there called a bike “TVS Victor”, now can anyone recognize it? But same once upon a time there was a bike called “Splendor” and even now people are craze about it!
That’s the difference between Hero Honda and rest like TVS, Bajaj
Compare the sales figure every month in the same site and you come to know the facts…
Hero Honda is king of roads and largest two wheeler manufactures in the world.
Think globally, and act wise. Don’t let your patriotism rule your mind
FYI: I am not a fan of Hero Honda; if Suzuki/Yamaha gives me good product then definitely I will go for them.
And as of now in 225cc segment ZMR rules>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
hey mazid
w r u from?
hey Dhiraj Chawla ,
can u share your details
and how much milegae you are getting for ur ZMR????
Hi all
any interested can follow me in twitter @shyam63
thanks all bye!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi buddy mazid
U didn’t change ur chain bracket then how is possible 171 kmph?
17 Inch Rim at the RPM of 10000 u can hit only 132 knph
If u modified all and ur chain bracket it may go 140 or 145 at the RPM of 10000
It’s simply odometer mistake. Take video and calculate the speed and distance covered
U can get the true speed that too has some mistake.
Apache has a Top speed register can u mail me that Photo “171 Kmph”
Then where u r from? I am from Chennai. If u r in Karnataka or AP or KL I can come to meet u with my RTR Fi or R15.
Mazid are you Alive? , If Yes then Please write a complete Review of your Jet RTR lets get some real bike Advice.
@ mazid
nice job man…u should post ur apache’s photo sometime
hi mr. mardras . few things i gorget to mention frnd , plz sorry for that . My bike is now turbocharged and i also changed the full chain set which consist the smaller chain sprocket and brackets. Sorry friends, but i live in Patna(bihar). And i touched this top speed on Mokama-Barauni bypass highway. This highway is generally empty because it is very dangerous due to anti-social (criminal) people. And due to less traffic this highway is like an expressway. I tightly hold my tank with my knees and touched my helmet to my bike’s headlight(visor) and gives the full throttle. i get the following gear ratios:-
60 in 1st gear .
92 in 2nd gear .
121 in 3rd gear.
146 in 4th gear.
and finally 171 on 5th gear.
I also think that its not just speedometer falut cause earlier after deadly ripping i got highest only 134 kmph.
Hi Guys, Hope u doing well, pls dont go for bajaj bikes its waste piece of shit.
Wonderfull review dude !
I am a proud owner of ZMR and has run more than 5300 KM till now…ZMR is awesome…the Karizma engine has now become more smooth in ZMR…Best ever LCD console/Clip on handle bars…and superb mileage…i am getting 48 in city driving….rear disc too are great…and more over Fi best ever…other bikes manufacture has to drop there Fi due to lots of issues in there bikes….but ZMR has best ever Fi unit…Disc brakes are of NISIN…
I not not agrees with this statement “The costliest bike comes with the costliest maintenance; all the parts which are not covered under motor vehicle insurance are too expensive, for example the front plastic costs more than 30000 to replace”
This is totally wrong that 30000 is an amount of an fairing…ZMR fairing is divided in two parts top and bottom..top fairing cost 1750 and bottom faring cost 550 for one side..if you are changing the complete fairing total cost will be 4600 only…
I know RTR engine is not an ordinary one.
But still my mind is not accepting this top speed.
I am not discouraging you.
Can u pls tell me the front and rear chains bracket teeth count and radius?
What is the compression ratio?
Did u change the cooling system?
Mail me ur Top speed pic to my mail id
madras.mister@gmail.com
Hey Shyam,
I have a Black Color ZMR. I bought it from millennium motors domlur, almost 2 1/2 months ago.
Currently I am getting a mileage of 36-38 kmph in city and on highway I took it only twice. At that time I calculated it to be 42-44 kmph, which seems pretty good to me.
Btw, I will get in touch with you on twitter… we can share more info on that.
Dear shyam prasad nandigam,
Thanks for your reply..
3 questns,
Do ur ZMR facing heating problems nw ???
Whats the mileage that u r getting in both city and highways ??
What about the rear brake ???
Becoz Iam taking the first time having rear disk brake..
Thankx in advance…
hero honda bikes are bando bikes..they are only reliable..tvs makes great racing bikes,hh dont have the r and d to make such bikes..they only know copy paste jobs and stickers upgrades..
Bhai bahaut sahi review tha par naam dekho GOLDY!!!!!!!! Aisa lagta hai ki jaise Ferarri ke neeche plastic ke pahiye jad diye hon. Miyaan damadaar bike ki itni beizzati. Chee….. Thooooo……yuck. Dekho miyaan naam aisa ho ki jab koi sune to hil uthe. Main scooty ka bhi naam na rakhun aisa. Naam badlo ,miyaan warna begum khafa ho jayengi. Aur ek aur baat ki ye plastic aur fuel injection ke liye 20000 extra??? A strict no no no. Khuda bachaye aisi loot machane walon se.
hey Vivek
the first day and my first ride, i faced heating problem…
but after that, till now not at all… the engine is very smooth… oil cooled boss…
milegae i had answered this question earlier any how again for ur sake..
36kmph..
i filled the tank on the day 1 of my purchase and it got over at reading 542km..all the 542km i roamed in city only…
next i went to a long trip and i found it is surely 40+..
no exact data..
breaks are excellent.. don’t think about it…
let me explain the design technique of HH here.. when compared to front disc break the functionality of rear disc is low..but i promise that is done merely bcoz of safety…
with both the brakes applied simultaneously the bike will stop at the same moment and same place.. no skid..nothing…
with out second choice u can go for it..
hi shyam…
Recently i purchased zmr pearl white after long waiting n it was awesome but only prob i getg is skidding on wet surface while applying rear disk… N pls giv d soln 4 ths prob yar..
hey Dhiraj,
even i took the bike from same dealer..
what ever the mileage u specified is the same my bike also giving..
but how come some users are saying they are getting 45+..
its better to ask them !!!
hey Lokesh…
w r u from?
how come your bike giving a milegae of 48 in city riding?
thats pretty interesting bro..
Bro just tell me that which engine oil do you use for your bike. Mineral or Synthetic? Of which grade? If you get the oil changed from the service centre then better be careful coz they often dont care about the grade and pour same engine oil in high end bikes which is made for Splendor and CD-100.
hey r u the BABAR… who won the mtv stuntmania re loaded???…
i am from Delhi…till now drive in City traffic only…with traffic jam on daily basis…my average speed is 65-70 at 4500 RPM….
I have checked with many of the ZMR owners they too are getting almost same average.
Dear Shyam Prasad Nandigam,
Let me first Thanks 4 ur reply and advice…
I’ve already booked the machine and costs Rs.1,01,987/- and white colour….
The machine is really awesome…
See u soon with ur posts….
@Babar
SVC peoples always put a engine made for the bike…each HH bike has there own engine oil…they come in 1 liter of pack and they have different packing as well as mentioning of grade
hi dude i dont want to compare any other bikes with ZMR
But want to tell some draw backs.ZMR is a big bike with huge looks and some of its parts dont suite like
1.very huge tail lamp looks like a 14inch TVscreen CBZ Extremes tail is better than this
2.the front and rear tires dont carry the looks.the front tire is too worst bycicle tyre is much better
3.the front forks are too thin for a huge bike
4.even though split handle they dont make any difference in handling same as the old version(cam make the hanling sporty like R15 )
5.can increase the power till 22BHP
i examined each and every part of the bike as i worked in HH showroom for quite some days
my bike is YAMAHA FAZER 150 in my opinion my bikes huge tires and huge front forks will give a better look to ZMR
any way nice review take good care of ur girlfriend safe riding
Hi Shyam,
Read the entire tread. A good blend of different thoughts. Anyways Here comes a Big Fan of Karizma.
1st Karizma – 2005 (May I think) – Did 88,000 Kms and sold it for 32,000 in 2009 Jan. Parts replaced ( Break pads, Headlight bulbs, Tyres, Clutch and Acc cables, Culutch plate, Some rubber thing which fits in the rear wheel and Battery.
2nd Karizma R – Apr 4, 2009 – Did 22000 KMs and sold it yesterday for 59,000 ( PArts replaced – Break Shoes and Clutch and Acc cables – Thats all)
3rd Karizma ZMR White – Have received a receipt of 59k and waiting for the delivery
My Experience of over 1 Lac Kms :
Down Side –
1- Costly if you look and CC and Power.
2- Costly to Maintain ( 1 Set of Front Disc pad costs 2250 Rs)
3- Costly to Run ( Have never seen a 40 ka milgae in city)
Up Side -
Only 1 – Safe – No accidents as of now. I remember few incidents where i would have not been here had it not been a karizma.
Waht makes it so safe?
1- Low center of gravity
2- Perfect wheel base
3- Non Aggressive Front disc breaks. Remember – 90% of riders fall down first due to a skid and then crash.
Ask yourself a Question – How many hit PulXXXs you have seen and how many Karizmas?
Regards,
Mohit
Im Also a owner of Black ZMR, Almost complete 12,000km now,
Its not expensive to maintain ZMR, i dint feel anything yet, people said Disc pad and fairing is costly its not at all, Front fairing replacement will cost u hardly 4000 rs/ the whole upper and lower, and disc pad is of 1000 rs/- For ZMR. I had replaced allready the front. after 11,000km.
Its a good bike, I love to ride it. The people who think its so costly as it seems but its not at all..
Best of LUck…
I’ve fell in love with karizma ZMR in my first site and this would be my first love over machines and i’m gonna getting married with in my lady(ZMR) in 2 months. i thought of buying it immediately when it’s launched. but i was waiting for the users feed back. i never heard any negative feedbacks of that bikes and i’ve decided to go with it. when compared to it’s efficiency it not so costly as people think. it’s worth getting with that cost. i’m satisfied with it and you too will be…………..
Sir,
Iam pleased with ur review..
I’ve always ignored pulsar generations and their reviews..
Iam going 2 take this bike as I was waiting for launch of this vehichle in Kannur District(Kerala)..
Here it costs Rs.1,03,000…
Just two Questions,
Whats the mileage nw u r getting ?? and
Any issues so far ???
Pls post ur reply…. Thankx in Advance
i use malai grade synthetic engine oil in my zmr..
can any one say me,exactly how to set the time and welcome message in zmr..???
plzz giv me the exact cost and mileage of karizma zmr… hw much does it cost to replace the front fairing
Hi Mr. Shyam
This is chandra, your post is really nice. M die hard fan of zmr. I also reside in blore . I m planning to buy this piece n take the delivery on 10th sept. Can u pls give me some tips about accessories n all or which is the right place to buy? There r 5 showrooms in blore. So far Except 2 showrooms other response was pathetic. Pls help. My id chandu037@gmail.com
can anyone please how to set personal message in start up
Please refer to ZMR Manual….
very nice review..
I do not know what world says.. but my heart is always with Karizma – whether R or ZMR.. just love it.. i know Pulsar might be more powerful and cheap..but my heart only says Karizma.. you can call this love with the name and bike or its a way of life.
I currently own Zma R.. i will buy the next bigger Hero Honda bike whenevr it comes.. i will wait and till then i will ride Zma R.. i just love the bike..
None of teh Brands are bad – be it Suzuki or Honda or Bajaj.. we should go by where our heart lies.. if you like Pulsar plz do not say bad abour R or ZMR.. no one benfits from such criticism..
i wish i could have bought the ZMR
I also have my Hero Honda Spelndor since July 2002 and it still rides great… may be i have become Brand loyal but to me Karizma looks just perfect and nothing seems to replace its image inside me.. i just miss full fairing in Karizma R..
Nishant
For all Pulsar and ZMR disliking fans,:P
I bought this machine before one month ago and first I was worrying about its mileage & the awareness of the side covering…
Now I assessed my machine and came to the conclusion that it gives me a mileage of 45 – 50 in city at a speed upto 60kmph and 48 – 50 @ highways with a top speed of 130 kmph without any terroring vibration…
The side covering is added for the safety and it costs Rs.8000/-
No big heating problems so far..
A comfort rather than Tata Nano upto a great extent…
So pls dont post as “ZMR is a crap” (For pulsar fans)
Just Re-think and use ZMR for one month…
All the best for all of u….
hi all,
I am extremely satisfied with my GOLDY…
I love this relationship
For all those who are asking about mileage:
36-40 KM/L in city
42+ in highway ridings when drove @<80kmph
80 Kmph
I am getting 20kmpl@100kmph
Get a good mechanic nearby who have strong knowledge in FI and latest trend and make friendship with him; he will help you with the rest…
hi shyam ,
even i am a proud owner of ZMR
.
now my bike is due for first servicing. can u advice me something on this pls.
waiting..
-chandrakant
hey dude i think u look cool on the bike nd love to buy this one and will have it in january
Hi,
All ZMR fans thanks for your ideas especially shyamprasad it makes me to book ZMR. 3 years ago i was used passion plus and later i moved to apache RTR but iam not satisfied with RTR since engine-noice , mileage and main thing is uncomfort. Now i feel happy, today i had booked ZMR(White).Sad news is that waiting period is upto 4 months in chennai.
All thanks again for your ideas,reviews and comments on ZMR. . .
Catch u later ,
KAMAL
please tell me service costs u had on this bike
hello all..
i m one of the proud owners of ZMR.
guys i m having a typical problem in my bike. thr is a typical vibration sound in the dome n also under seat, same type of vibration sound. when i took my bike to service center on Banneraghatta road(Sai Motors), they r saying all bikes have this problem.
one more problem is with the mirror. since i bought the bike left mirror is loose these ppl at same service center r saying to wait till next service due to unavailability of spares.
pls lemme know anybody has these kind of problems n also suggest me some garrage or service station whr i can get rid of this problem.
pls help.!!!
@Chandrakant
for tight mirrors you can purchase allenkey and do it yourself…
Hi,
Shyam and ZMR folks, I have some questions about this vehicle pls clarify,
1) Does this vehicle have starting problem at early morning( Since it doesnt have kicker option ) ?
2) Is it possible to fit funnel horn and HID bulb(White bulb) ?
Regards,
KAMAL
@Kamal
1. There is no starting problem in ZMR…whether its Cold or Hot climate
2. Yes, HID can be fit…
Thanks a lot lokesh…
Hi Shyam. I would like to know the maximum speed that should be maintained when the bike is new. I own a Karizma ZMR, and the technician asked me to keep the speed below 60 KM/hr for 2000 KMs as the engine is new. Will the engine go bad if driven at higher speeds?
One more thing, I have noticed that the bike was already driven for about 50 KM when I took the delivery. Is this normal? Do the technicians supposed to ride the bike for such a long distance? Would this have affected the bike in any way because I m unsure how they would have handled it
thanks
@ jack,
as the mechanic said the bike shall be maintained below 60kmph till its first service. after that wen the change of engine oil happens in first servicing then its ok u can fly!
this is mentioned in owner’s manual also.
n my bike was drivn fr 8 kms so its ok.. 50 km is a long distance, just ask them. bt thr wil be no impact on engine as such coz of this..!!
happy biking.
Thanks a lot for your promt reply, Chandrakant
I was bit worried bcoz the dealers are supposed to ride the bike for such a long distance. As I have paid a huge amount for the bike, it is obvious to worry and I love my bike.. Its a real beauty 
I was even thinking if they had kept it for test drive or something. I dont thinl these guys will even look into it if i ask them.. I have crossed my fingers and praying that nothing goes wrong
Everything stated so far is correct but u failed to mentioned the superb control which the bike have on the road i managed to stop the bike at a speed of 85 km/h jus in 4 seconds and it stopped in a range of 3-4 meters not only this the front cowel not only is good quality but its covered under insurance too and hardly cost you 3000 and the cowel itself is divided into 3 parts… so no worry juss go grab yours today……..
I own first ZMR in andhra pradesh…I am getting battery problem.it’s not getting charged..Can it be corrected?:-(
Logical, pleasing to read. Indian consumers are surely pampered especially in the last 3 years or so with huge choices. I’ve had a Suzuki 250(entry) then a 650 from Hyosung. Trust me; they did not have all the features the new Karizma has. Triumph 750 looks bland and has nowhere a feature-filled offering such as this m-cycle. Must be, The HH folks decided to make it a bucket-list. You sure got yourself a bucket-full of features!
Hi Chandrakant, Kamal,Jack…
wlcome to the family of ZMRians..
i think we shuould form our own community..
ptoud owners of ZMR
..
ZMR rocks..
no problems upto now..
2 services done…. and servicing costs are minimum..
i am trying to install ABS to my goldy…
will update you with details once done the set up…
once gain for all the folks:
There is no starting problem in ZMR…whether its Cold or Hot climate..bcoz its has a sensor to control the climatic conditions..it can be start even in extreme cold conditions
HID can be installed no problem at all.. but be sure that if u are a regular rider..
when HID is installed, u should keep running ur vehicle for morethan 10km daily otherwise it affets ur battery life very badly..
front fairing costs are very low.. my apology for the same as my review says that front fairing is too high.. they are vailable in 3 separate parts and all can be bought around 11000 bucks..
@chandrakanth, even i get some rare vibrations in front fairing..
when i contacted ZMR expert, he said it is due to resonance with engine vibration and front fairing and says nothing to worry..
the vibration is not always and also not very noisy.. so i too lite….
@deppanshul yeah ur 100% correct the bike has excellent control… when i was at speed of 124kmph i was hit by a bumble bee to my left eye.. at that speed the collision made a very high pain.. and i stopped the bike all of a sudden to see what happened exactly to my eye..
@sunny contact ur nearest HH Authorised delear, u r battery comes with a 3 years replacement warranty…go and gets replaced..there may be something problem with ur battery…
Hi Shyam,
If you are planning to create a ZMR group then count me in…
Yes you are right about the HID… I also inquired about the same from Millennium Motors, Domlur from where I bought the bike… HID costs around 2000 Rs. and that too certified by HH…
Please do provide more information about ABS, I forgot to inquire about that…
Also wanted to ask, is there a possibility of getting a back seat fairing as provided by R15 or Ninja???
if anyone interested in converting your karizma to zmr ,den contact me…im planning to sell my bikes full front fairing.pearl wite colr… 5000 rs… no defects… just plannig to fit r15 fairing
NITHIN
+919539234122
hi i like to fit KNfilter to my ZMR if we fix any problem will occur a because it is pi-injection so pls tell its use full r not rply me as soon as possible
i have installed K&N high performance fliter…and i hit 132 on chennai highway…then i found karizma R was doin 140 at d same time…nd i could beat it easily…..nothin to worry..go on n install it..for more performance,go for irridium spark plug nd high ignition wires…
nithin wat was the model that u have installed ?? is it r1060?? the k&n filters just give a greater roar to the engine bt nothings as good as the stock filters ,rest as your wish kiruba bt what i suggest is to go for other performance mods bt not for filters it would really ruin the engine..
I wont suggest you for going for a filter change ,since the bike is totally equipped with sensors which would surely be affected by installing k&n , since k&n increase the amt of air flow inside the engine therefore sensor would not be able to provide the same amt of fuel so there would be no change in power instead you would be facing missing problems,moreover it would also end your bike’s warranty
so let it be stock condition ..if u really want a power increase ..just go for spark plug change [try iridium plugs] or else feel free to call me i would suggest you the best options for your bike
9711081420
i ve installed k&n extreme performance filtr…3800rs.. im sure der is power change for my bike..nd ive checkd it with othr zmr which is in stock condition nd i saw it by myself….derv was no missin probs for ma byk nd it sounds excellent….wen more air is intaken, sensors wil suit fuel supply accordingly rite?also my byk had a mileage of about 40-45 on city ride too… bt my frnds r disappointed in der byks mileage…i usually rides my byk in the range of abt 80-90 al time too..nyway zmr is so junky lukin nd so i ve sold the byk…so ,today is my last day with with my zmr….it wil be sold by today eve…:-(.. nyway itz best in terms of performance nd reliability..
zmr has odometer troubles i think..i had gone for a trip to ercaud with xbhp club a few months b4… dat time i checkd its speed comparing with karizma r….on highway ,karizma r was doin 140 wen i came side by side nd at dat time, my speed was 132…dont knw y… der wer 220 s also nd i was d lead on highway.. i had k&n filtr,irridium spark plug nd high ignition wites installed on ma byk..bt the othr zmr which was in stock condition couldnt beat 220… nw dont tel dat itz driving skill..coz on highways, itz ur bikes performance dat wil do nd nor ur skills…i was really proud of ma byk dat day …
@Nitin.
ZMR shows accurate and error free speed reading due to sensor named like “contact len” (i am forgetting name..could remember actual sensor name) …This is confirmed by Autocar India too
i am disappointed with zmrs stylling… itz too junky…so first i thought of modifying with r15 fairing… bt it would spoil d byks identity.also an overall modification wil b necessary for the byk coz itz tial piece is also too big.. so decided not to go for it… den nw i got 85rs which i thought is a reasonable price… itz taken jan 2010 nd done 15000 km…nyway i loved zmr very much nd stil i am sad for selling it…
nice review buddy…
gettin a black zmr ..delivery on jan 2 ..
Hey Shyam,
I am also frm bangalore, working here in electronic city.
I am also planning to buy this beauty in next month, so wud appreciate if u share ur contact no so tat we can talk over all the gud n bad things (if any) abt this bike.
Looking forward for ur response at the earliest.
shoot a mail to shyamprasadnandigam@gmail.com
i will share my contact info
Hi Chennai ZMRians,
I had booked ZMR(White) on the month of October still waiting for it. Can anyone tell me how long it took to deliver u from booking in Chennai and which showroom ?
Regards,
KAMAL
xatly 3 months for me in nagapa autos ….
hai iam kamesh from chennai i own my karizma zmr white where r u from
Hi kamesh,Iam from old washermenpet, chennai. last month i had completed the second service.
1st af all thanx to Shayam !!!!
Dude a wonderfull blog for dudes likes us to analyze the pros and corns –Great –
I was in great dilemma to get R15 or Kharizma or PB …After seeing your Blog..
Decided Kharrzzimma is gona be my costliest Baby —-(ur doin a good marketing for a ultimatley competing bike —-LOL!!!!)
I want to know only one thing dude …
Apart from White colour which is prioritized in your mind — Guess Blue would do great ..!1.)What abt yours ????
2.)Am not goin to Own for a Life time ..So what will its depreciation value …resale downline 1 year>>>>>>>
3.) Dont you face any back pains during long rides…..i ask u tat since i too work in
a software company –with weaker ergonomics—
no back pains…. very good ergonomics by HH
resale values will be higher than a brand new pulsar 220.. dude its once again HH,,,
HH are upper hand in resale value….
and regarding color.. i go for RED if White is not available….
Hi Shyam,
Should appreciate you to gather all HH Karizma ZMR fans out here in one single blog. Kudos !!!!!!
Even am a proud owner of Karizma ZMR (Red) from Hyderabad, done 7000km till date, no issues as of now except for some heating issues when going on long drives…
Would like to know how to include my name in the display….
hope to hear from you soon….
HI Everyone….. i,ve heard many complaints in this bike regading its gas filled shockers and starting problem and its fi engine4m news and friends!!!! m a great fan of this bike bcuz of looks and technology…. i,ve sold my p220 to buy ths bike nd now m extremly confused !!!! is tht all true or not??? plz plz help me out
@Aryan…
There is no Complaint in ZMR in single part…Fi unit is best in its class…i am owner of ZMR from last 11 months…no problem at all..you can buy it
can i fit KN to my ZMR a pls any one tell i am in hurry
thnx lokesh!!!! but i want to knw smthing more about ths bike could u help me out….. in paper the news was flashed tht all hero honda karizma zmr was recalled bcuz its Fi is defaulted and its rear gas filled shocks is leaking ….and ths is also mention tht all zmr”s r hold bcuz of ths issue……nd ths news also flashed on TV too…. PLZ Everybody PLZ PLZ ND PLZ I NEED UR COMMENTS ON THS>>>>>>>>
aryan i’ve also heard ur exact same statement abt zmr.m also a big fan of ths bike… nw were the r all of u nd SO CALLED NANDIGAM PRASAD SHYAM JI??? nw give answers of all ARYAN ND MINE TOO!!!
all false/fake news…
no complaint in Fi and rear suspension…
i am using bike from past 6 months… still no complaint and i pretty much sure that i don’t see any in future…
i had already met so many ZMRians personally and even they expressed same…
every one who owned a ZMR are extremely happy…
and i am proud to say i am one among them…
@aryan, @sid, @all
don’t believe any false news/rumors, go by our decision, you will definitely feel the difference…
@Aryan and others too…Firstly may be the news you have heard on some where Bajaj supported blog/news…just kidding…
There is no what so ever complaint on ZMR for Fi unit or so…ZMR Fi unit is best in its class with 12 port…i my self is having a ZMR from last 11 month and no problem in any of the part….as shyam said…don’t believe on any of the rumors about ZMR…
@sid,
y u ppl r targeting shyam? he is nt the promoter of ZMR. he has juz put his views here.
i also own ZMR its juz awsome.. thr s no prblm with neither engine nor suspension. last week my bike was in the fog (temperature around 14deg.) on nandi hills. Engine dint take any little pain to start. juz a sinlge press.
but only prblm in this bike i found was the vibrations in flairing and dome. bt ppl have told me its coz of resonance frequency. it will reduce upon usage.
i have kept my fingers crossed fr tat.
anyways tc guys,
don target any1 in ths kind of public forum.
ya bro this problem is in my bike also
Thnx Lokesh nd shyam …. m satisfied wid ur answers. as I,ve already said i,ve sold my p220 bcuz of zmr… thts y m making little a bit more queries… m going to college nxt yr… nd m going to rule the roads wid zmr in january 2011…. i jugde myself both u guys rockstars… bcuz few people hv capabilities like u… i,ve told al my frnds in class abt u… nd thy also become harcore fans of u…thy r askng 4 ur number too… be in touch forevever guys….
@aryan: yeah definitely…
please share r mail id and face book profile we will be in touch…..
by the way, recently went to a ride and touched a max speed of 128kmph….
no problems so far… and i am able to control it fully even at that top speed… no heating problems… no vibrations…
hey shyam im also from ELURU.. yesterday only my brother got ZMR after a long time waiting period….. hw is ur bike now….
sankranthi subakankshalu… r u coming to eluru for pongal…
ZMR is very good looking in flush than in pictures… but i”Ve booked yamaha fazer just because of YAMAHA TAG,,FATTER TYERS,,,
im going to get my FAZER nxt week…
i want to buy a yellow colour karizma zmr.
sham , do u have faring vibrations in ur bike ??? reply me plzzz …. this is the oly prob in my zmr ..! any solutions for this?
@vivek: yes i do have…
any solutions for this ?? is it common bro ?
hello boss,,
i’m ajeesh. i hav heard somthing abt zmr’s headlamp, its gave low light for us wat abt u said abt dis, pls reply me,
nd can we change its headlamp to any other powerful smthng too pls inform me wat it is
You can change it to 55W bulb…it works very well in ZMR…
Yes Ajeesh, eveyone feel the same.Its better to change the headlamp to HID. If anyone using it pls suggest……….
Cool,
KAMAL.
Hii shyam,
I agree with whole heart. Do an power filter (air) and a fine tuning could increase the performance..? And also is it possible to fix the r15 head on the zmr..?
as ajeesh said. i could feel the same from my lady
Exciteddd!!!! Getting ma Pearl White ZMR in 3 Days….
Will Catch u Guys sooooonn…………………………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i really love this bike dude…… bt whats its high speed? well u hv dne a great wrk
Hey Guyz! I got ma Pearl White ZMR yestrday. Superb Byk. But the dealer has suggested me not 2 exceed the speed above 30-35Kms for minimum 8 days. And ma byk is also getting ovr heated. Is it the same with all u guys. Really nervous plz give sum suggestions.
@omi : don worry bro , its common … in the beginnin ,it has over heatin issues later it wil automatically reduce
@vivek: Thanks buddy!!!!!!!!!!
Curently i have CBZ old, using this from last 10years,now i want to switch another product from Hero Honda,which one should I buy Karizma R or Karizma ZMR?
& tell me the site name where i can compare the both bikes……
Thanks guys.
@shailendra
go ahead with ZMR… the FI technology machine.
hai ra
i think after seeeing ur advice, ther is no need of getting details frm anyone regarding our lady
evn me 2 crazy about zmr, planing to get one, n i luved d way treat ur machine(i.e,ur lady). have a safe ride my frnd, last bt nt least ur narration, its aaaaawsome. luvd it byeeeeeee
ZMR has a 9.0:1 compression ratio so what should be the octane value of the fuel used in this bike and kindly mention the name of the petrol which has that octane number…
guys is it advisable or possible to change the tyres of ZMR…..any R & D is going for this
Hi…… biker boyzz……. Firstly i wud like to tell all of you that KARIZMA ZMR is AWESOME !!!!!
Good job Shyam……..
Ur review regarding the Above All babe is fantastic !!!
i hav read each and every ones opinions……….. i wanna say one thing……. every one compare the bike performances…. bike specifications…… bike designs…. blah…blah…blah….!!!!
But, if all the bikes of indian manufactures are brought at one place…….. and if a KARIZMA ZMR just crosses in front of them…….. i bet no one can take their eyes off the ZMR
King of All…. Above All…..
i own a ZMR yellow……. planning to use an HID for ma bike…. wats ur opinion…. did anyone of u guys tried it ?????
and one more thing u hav bn saying that it gives a mileage of 35-40…etc…etc….
the avg mileage indicator on ma bike…. is something different…….. it shows 38… sometimes 55…. sometimes 71……. sometimes even 101…….. that was crazy man !!!
Can you guys plz suggest me how to check the mileage on ma ZMR….. this avg mil indicator is sometimes FREAKY !!!!!
if anyone has a solution please mail me….. my Id is daredevilzracer@gmail.com
Thanks in advance
Hi Veer,
Congrats… m also a proud owner of this lovely machine ZMR…
The mileage indicator (Real Time Mileage Indicator, RTMI) tells you the consumption of petrol for previous 10 seconds.( if u observe it changes every 10 seconds)
To check mileage fill your tank till its neck wen it reaches its last tip, then wait till it reaches the same level. then calculate km per litre.
normally once i fill my tank its runs for around 580 to 590 km.
hi, shyam i am a medical college student in pondicherry i am a big boy my height is around 5.3 and im planning to buy a karizma zmr, my friends has a yamaha r15 another has a pulsar 220 can i compete with them in road and the roads in pondicherry r the worst can I handle the bike properly and also suggest me a color as I will be the first person in the college to buy zmr pls reply me and ur bike looks awesome congrats
dude go for white color.. it catches everyone’s eye..
n also go for 2011 model.. it has some cosmetic upgradation….
Dude in my suggestion dont go for 2011 zmr white…. its look totally crap… they have painted body coloured mirrors, grab tails etc… better go for black its look awesome and make luxurious looks in those gold exhaust shield…. i too have booked… soon goin to get in 3 days…. just see it a glance, u will fall in love with it…:-)
currently doing the most boring job in the world, i.e. “Working as software Engineer”.///
whom you are trying to please here bud! didn’t tat boring job pay you to buy this bike!!
You turned me off right at the begining.. didn’t even cared to read whats below
bet this is a dumb review about this dumb bike
Hey Guys…
I brought my new Karizma ZMR yesterday…Panther Black Metallic…Awesome bike…Comfort…Powerful…Stylish…Am Loving it…
hi guys recently i buyed zmr bike. can u plz tell me how to change the time in that digital meter plzzzzzzzzzzzz
One point i would like to mention is that No 1 two wheeler manufacturer in the world Has No 1 poorest R&D. Honda guys sucks in R&D. They are just like an age old guy who always try to prove his word true!!!!!
Hero lacks a lot of things 1)Innovation 2)Improvement 3)Response to customers expectations. Look at the bajaj or TVS or even current Yamaha india how they respond to customer expectations. Hero is just like an age old fellow who never listens anybody and try to prove his word true. No need to say that hero is also going to follow the tradition of cosmetic upgrades.
Guyz….I mean ZMRians……I am planning to buy this bike next month. Recently sold out my Karizma r…just wanted to know any one of you has used the diffrent rear tyer i mean broad one…coz just after buying i m planning to change the tyer….@ Shyam…bro any other pro’s and con’s you have noticed till date…..up date us….
Raaj
Abe loudo,kya sabki ma ki chut me zmr dalni h kya? chup baitho kya chapad chapad kar rahe ho?
I have read many comments on this site and some were asking about Height and age and such regarding getting the ZMR. My opinion is that if you are a biker, than go for the bike that suits you. Only thing is, are you able to handle the bike you choose. I am 60 years old and I am planning to get the ZMR, even though I used to be an Enfield lover. It caught my fancy and all the reviews I have read so far are encouraging. I ride for the pleasure of riding and most of all for long distance rides.
Ronald