Hero CBZ Xtreme Ownership Review: A Chemical Engineer’s Chemistry With His Xtreme

by Deepak Raj on February 27, 2013

Hello friends, This is Arunkumar, 25, a chemical engineer by profession, living at the outskirts of Chennai. I am the one which posted a review on my previous Bajaj Discover. I did purchase Hero X-Treme 2012 on 10-12-2012. This review is going to be a quite lengthy one relative to my former post. Just note that in this article QRD means. Quality, Reliability & Duarability.

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Scrutinizing phase

I was scrutinizing for a quite long period. That does not mean that I was in a mission to accomplish a massive technical evaluation. Instead, I was doing it because I did not have enough finance hence I used technical evaluation as a vent for my eagerness for a new machine. If I had managed to arrange Rs.1,10,000/- three years ago, I would have purchased the TBTS, if I had managed to arrange Rs.1,26,000/- some months ago, I would have purchased the YZF R15 v2.0 and If I had managed to arrange Rs.1,13,000/- four months ago, I would have purchased the Karizma ZMR.

I was not ready to go with EMI and wanted to avoid interest. But all these does not mean I have landed on an incompatible or a trivial machine. But I have diligently worked to select a best option filtered by price, mileage, QRD, comfort, features etc..

Royal Enfield Thunderbird Twinspark

I am a great enthusiast of the RE bikes and a former bodybuilder and was very fond of buying a Thunderbird four years ago as TBTS matched perfectly with my physique. Then, Thunderbird became the harbinger of UCE engines of which attracted a more number of customers. During those days TBTS’s on road price was approximately INR 95,000/- about four years ago and those were the days I started learning about bike technology though I had a Discover which was 2 year old.

Then, its price went to 1,04,000, and 1,10,000 and then to 1,16,000 because of new emission norms. Then it finally reached INR 1,28,000 which was very hard for me to grab. Yet I was quite inclined to the TBTS. Finally, the TBTS 350 was upgraded similar to TBTS 500 and the price reached around 1,40,000 which was according to me, not a wise investment, as I am going to pay Rs.45000/- for the same 350CC engine. Since I am a normal middle class man with average earnings, I just ruled TBTS out.

YZF-R15 v1 and v2.0

High end motorcycles were predominant in my list since I had plans for occasional long trips and it is my dream that I should take the GST road (Chennai-Trichy-Madurai-Tirunelveli-Nagercoil-Marthandam) through Marthandam since my native is Kanyakumari district. I had both R15 and TBTS in mind since they were the powerful bikes in the 1 lakh category. I loved the v1 of R15 very much because of its comfortable seating position and was planning to buy it even without having ample savings. I test drove the v1 from Raj Yamaha, but couldn’t even reach 40kmph (because of test driving distance, not even a kilometer) and the bike behaved like a normal 150CC bike at the lower rpms.

I started day dreaming and was seeking a day to quench my thirst on biking. Soon after, the v 2.0 was launched which was cosmetically excellent, but did hardly attract me since it was not a bike for the pillion, even for the rider at long distance touring. I had to consider the pillion’s comfort as well since I am married and can’t be so selfish on my decisions. I even had a chance to own this bike through military canteen since my uncle was an ex-service man and through the military canteen, YZF-R15 v 2.0 costed just 94,000/- with 15000/- as registration and others. I had a chance to save 18,000/- through the military canteen. Listen, still I did not save anything and all my hope was on the auction chit which is a local form of investment in Tamil Nadu. Owing to the poor comfort it offers to the pillion, it just kicked it off from the list since it lacked a kick start and was off low mileage (Raj Yamaha, Chennai reports it to be 32-35 kmpl)

So, no other way, I stepped on to the commuter segment.

Suzuki GS-150R

I tested it at SMK Suzuki, Guindy, Chennai. Despite of its low power (13.8 BHP) and high weight (149 kg), the bike responded well. I could hear the voices of people who say that GS-150R’s pickup is poor, but comparing it with my Discover, it was fantastic. It had a sixth gear and the engine has been tuned for peak power at higher rpms, hence perfect for long distance touring. Not only long distance, my daily commuting itself, is like a touring, because I travel 40 kms a day with a pillion, my wife and I was looking for a touring machine which would offer enough torque for a ride with pillion. It had rpm blinker, and excellent mileage, super stability on highways. But the only drawback was the tyres.

I don’t know why Suzuki prevented a set of tubeless tyres. I enquired all tyre dealers in Chennai for 18” tubeless tyres. But it was hardly available except Ceat. I was looking for MRF/Michelin/Pirelli. So I would have to spend additional Rs.5000/- on tubeless tyres. Additionally the bike’s aesthetics did not attract me more or prevented me from being keen on it. It was ruled out of the list.

TVS Apache RTR 180 and 160

I took both 180 and 160 for test driving from Ramkay TVS, Medavakkam, Chennai. Wow! Monstrous pick-up. Not even the R15 can beat at within 4000 rpm. (Beyond it, R15’s story is different, you guys know it). Alas, TVS gave it a facelift which was actually a facedown to me. I did not like the new model of RTR bikes. Users reported 43kmpl for RTR 180. All my expectation was, I should not end up in frequent maintenance which my previous Discover gave. Go read my previous post which would clearly describe all my ordeals and woes about the cheap quality Bajaj product. So I was looking for a reliable, durable engine with a top class quality. Though TVS’s quality cannot be compared with that of Yamaha, Honda, Hero Honda (Hero, now), Suzuki and Royal Enfield, it is far more better than the Bajaj products (in terms of durability and reliability), as I heard.

But the former Bajaj products were excellent. I could still see scores of Bajaj M80s ruling the roads and it is over a decade, M80s’ production were stopped. It runs still. OK, coming to TVS story though I was inclined to the RTRs and I had a TVS showroom just within a km from my home, I ruled it out. Because many owners reported that it’s brakes, despite of being powerful, wear out frequently and the bike gives rattling sounds at high speeds after a couple of years of purchase. But there are no issues about the engine of RTRs. I have even seen a Dazzler’s engine opened, but have never seen an Apache’s engine open. Anyway, because of negative feedbacks and comfort issues, I neglected it.

Yamaha Fazer and FZ-S

Users reported its mileage to be 30-40. Excellent engine and engineering, reputed for its QRD, great handling potential, beefy front shock absorbers, mono-rear suspension, full DC set-up, great tyres, etc. Still I was not inclined to make it to FZ-S. Because mileage figures made me repel from Yammie products.

PROs

WHAT MADE ME NARROW DOWN ON HERO X-TREME

  • 14.2 BHP of power and 12.8 Nm of torque. So better pick-up. I just hated the old version of CBZ because of its design. To me, it was repelling. But Hero Moto Corp, played a nice game, giving it a major facelift in design and safety features. Ie., everything except engine has been changed.
  • It’s on road price is INR 81,423/-. Paid it fully in cash. Thank God which enabled me do it! All new X-Treme will now have a kick start facility but sheds the Honda’s prefix “CBZ” and it is only Hero X-Treme. I was the first customer at Mohana Automobiles, Wall Tax road, Chennai to purchase this model. I started rushing to many dealers after having it confirmed new models would have a kicker.
  • Split handle bars.
  • Excellent paint quality. Hero and Yamaha are always known for their best paint quality.
  • MRF Tube-less tyres.
  • Powerful engine for commuting and touring as well.
  • Excellent comfort with heavy duty suspension. Seats are the best attractive factor in X-treme. In my, perception, no other bike in 150CC category (except GS-150R) would give such comfort. Seats are quite stiff. Believe we would get accustomed to it.
  • Nice foot pegs for pillion and rider.
  • Mileage was reported to be 45 kmpl. It is OK for me. Mileage is not a major concern. We have to sacrifice something to get a better thing.
  • Good looking and long lasting rear brake LEDs.
  • Dual disc brakes. Rear disc brand is NISSIN and front is from BYBRE. So no worries. I have read reviews complaining about braking efficiency of Hero Honda bikes. But, for a person like me which used a bike lacking even a single disc, it is indeed a boon.
  • Nice digital, blue lit, instrumentation panel with separate analogue fuel meter. But the brightness of the illuminated numbers are dull during night, i.e., the contrast between the black display and blue lit background is quite less. But that is a frivolous issue.
  • Key shutter is an excellent security feature. No one can use even a duplicate key.
  • Diamond frame which is reputed for best stability.
  • Above all, QUALITATIVE, RELIABLE & DURABLE engine which would never make me suffer.
  • No vibration or atleast negligible vibrations. I mention it so because no air cooled engine is vibration free. There would definitely be minute vibrations even in FZ-S (my mechanic says). The issue is how much the vibrations make us feel concerned of it.
  • Excellent fit and finish. You cannot see unwanted free spaces between the engine and frame.

CONs:

  • There are also some negative factors which did not prove themselves strong enough to make me withdraw from X-treme. After doing so much review hunt, customer surveys, mechanic opinions, I found that no bike is 100% perfect. All bikes have negatives and let downs. It is all gain some and lose some. But confined to my expectations, Hero X-Treme was the only bike which had the least negatives. Let me list them down and explain.
  • Comparing it with other 150CC machines like GS-150R, Pulsar 150, Yamaha SZ-R etc., it provides low mileage (user reported). A 150CC commuter bike should give atleast 50 kmpl. But, owing to its weight, 150 kg, and 14.2 bhp powerful engine, low mileage is obvious. But I was ready to have it compromised since I was formerly looking for R15 and Thunderbird whose mileages always lie between 35 and 40 kmpl.
  • Lack of engine kill switch. It is very useful in tier 1 cities like Chennai where traffic signals make you angry more often. I don’t know why Hero and Honda are so reluctant providing a simple on-off switch. There is not even pass light switch in CBR-150R. I would never accept if Hero and Honda would say that the answer is cost cutting. So I made my mind to ignition key during long signals.
  • Not a complete DC set-up, just partial. Only the pilot lamps (HMC people call it parking lamps) glow when the engine is not running with the ignition on. Head lamp is the same conventional AC setup. Quite disappointing when I discovered it since thought it to be a complete DC set up. But it is negligible.
  • Paint was found missing in some minute spots, on the gearbox and engine fins. Some paint was missing around the bolted areas. I fixed it myself, by touching it up with black paint and covering it with araldite. If anyone of you have better ideas, please share it with me. A minor scratch near the left indicator. I informed the showroom staff to check the vehicle for such scratches and damages but they failed to notice & were very reluctant. They have ignored my information. But I believe this is the fact in all bikes. All bikes perhaps have some minor scratch issues when brought from the showroom.

HOW I WOULD EXPOUND MY HERO X-TREME’S FEATURES:

DESIGN

An excellent design. Hunk may seem more muscular than the X-Treme, but it is the X-Treme which has an edge over the hunk, with big digital screen, key hole shutter and high comfort split seats. You cannot find unwanted free spaces between the engine and frame, petrol tank and air filter box. Astra gold colored front shock absorbers are really attractive. Though a set of vibration dampers are not indeed mandatory, they add to the aesthetics. Rear LEDs are very bright and powerful, they have been covered with an overall glass casing. Silencer length, diameter and angle of inclination are all perfectly balanced for aesthetic appearance and efficient back pressure, for a better torque delivery. Edge of the silencer is covered with another metal plate, which prevents rusting, (I think so) and provides better contrast with the black color of the bike.

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The integrated front indicators were really a curse for the previous variant, now it fits better with the current one. The rear indicators are also of integrated type they contribute of the width of the pillion seat, hence more comfort. Not foot pegs of rider as well as pillion are provided with aluminium base and with lever locking facility. You can hear a “tick” sound when you retract the pegs, both rider and pillion. I would recommend going for a Teflon coating since it protects painted parts and plastic. My bike felt smooth and soft when touched, after a Teflon session. It costed Rs.356/- inclusive of taxes. Teflon coating provided at Mohana motors, Velachery, Chennai offers 1 year warranty and free Teflon re-coating after six months. Avoid soap, shampoo and wax based cleaning products on a Teflon coated bike, says the Teflon warranty card.

COMFORT & SUSPENSION

Hero bikes are always known for their comfort. But, there are some inconveniences as well. The knee bending postures does not correctly place my toes on to rear brake pedal and makes me bend my ankle more. Who cares?! I don’t consider it a great issue because it is a minor inconvenience. You cannot find these issues in GS-150R. Otherwise, rider and pillion comfort are to the extent possible with a set of split and widened seats. It is indeed a boon for my butt. I did not feel any vibrations.

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I would define the word “vibration” that a vibration which makes me feel concerned of it. Repeating it, all air cooled engines produce vibrations, in case of a liquid cooled engine, the liquid jacket would absorb all the vibrations hence R15 owners don’t report vibrations. In my case, it is all negligible. As stated earlier, front and rear suspension is great and easily absorbs pot holes.

HANDLING

Is it a 150 kg bike?! I will not accept. Because it handles like a baby when you get on board. You will not feel any excess weight during ride. Even in slow moving traffic, with a pillion on board, I did not feel uncomfortable. It feels indeed lighter than my Discover. The diamond frame being an excellent and reputed design, makes the bike sturdy and ready for all conditions. Weight is perfectly balanced. No Indian bike could be balanced as the R15 is.

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But I don’t need such a balancing and I am not going to burn the tracks. But it stays equal with its commuting adversaries. No issues. Tyres, are just 100/90-18” at rear and 80/100-18” at front, but are tubeless and brand MRF, feels planted better to the road because of weight. But please don’t handle it like the RTRs at corners, wet roads and muddy surfaces.

ENGINE, GEAR BOX & PERFORMANCE

14.2 BHP is perfect for a 150CC, 150kg bike. Crispy pick-up. But within 3000 rpm and with a pillion, throttle response is quite low. Pleasant engine and exhaust note. This is my experience upto the first service, since I did hardly cross 40 kmph and 3500 RPM during the break-in. Engine and gearbox looks quite small. But that’s one of Honda’s characteristics. Gear shifting was notchy and hard during upto around 200 km.

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I experienced even false neutrals 3 or 4 times. Certainly, almost all bikes are prone to false neutrals when gear shifting is done at higher gears and lower speeds. I don’t remember at which speed and gear I experienced false neutrals but I believe it to be temporary, at least does not deserve much concern. After crossing 200 km, gear shifting became quite smooth and smoothness is progressing everyday. I believe I would have butter smooth gearing after the first service. Clutch is absolutely smooth. I could keep the clutch engaged for a quite long time, whereas it took pain using my Discover’s clutch within seconds. I just love the exhaust note of my X-Treme since it sounds (to some extent) like that of an K&N air filter fitted bike.

MILEAGE

I don’t know how many of you would trust me. Many X-treme riders has reported only 44-48kmpl. As I said already, I was ready to go with this mileage, because I believed 45 kmpl would be the genuine number for a 150 kg, 150 CC, 14.2 BHP & 12.8 Nm engine. I worried whether or not it would run atleast 40 kmpl before the first service. But surprisingly, my steed ran a whopping 56.5 kmpl, tested reserve to reserve basis! It was not even a continuous drive. Ran about 20 km solo on day one, 18 km solo the next day and 18.5 km the third day with pillion when the main fill turned to reserve again.

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This applies when it was within the first 500 km, i.e., before the first service. I know very well why I got this number. I did shift gears at 3500 rpm and maintained speed within 40 kmph and I did never cross and did hardly touch 45 kmph. I did hardly engage clutch except for gear shifting and during slow traffic. Some users report that a bike’s mileage decline after the first service and many report it to incline after the first service. But I believe the latter, since the piston and cylinder wall generates more friction during the break-in period. More the friction, less the mileage & less the performance. Anyway, for me, even 45 kmpl is OK.

QUALITY, RELIABILITY AND DURABILITY

Do you want me add words in this section? Anyway, Stands on a par with Honda, Yamaha & Suzuki. It will not make me grieve (“Will not” and not “does not” because it has not run more). This is the major reason why did not want to land on the Bajaj products and even feared the TVS products to some extent (though TVS may be far more better than Bajaj). I landed on Hero because of the bitter experiences on reliability issues with the previous Bajaj Discover.

CONVENIENCE

It has only the toe shifter and lacks the heel part. It looks aesthetically good, but in motion, it is a minor inconvenience. But no problem, gear shifting is butter smooth and I got accustomed to it very soon. Lacks an engine kill switch. So I have to use the ignition switch more often. LCD brightness is not on par, it is dim during nights.

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Speedometer is not an issue, but is the tripmeter. I have to stare it a bit to have the clear numbers. So is it for the digital clock. Has just a single powerless decent horn. It does not suffice the bike’s power and appearance. It is low than that of my Discover. The greatest horn provided is in the old pulsars. Press the button and you will find way for a car.

SAFETY

Has a key shutter. No one can use even a duplicate key (or any other material) to open the lock. We need the back side of the key, (a rhomboidal plastic head) to open the shutter. A laudable safety measure.

AFTER SALES SERVICE, SPARES & NETWORK

Hero is reputed for its service network. Hero stands first in service network and spare availability. Though I have not experienced servicing more, I have visited a Hero service center (Mohana motors, Velachery, Chennai) where I watched the manners of service personnel, the way they listen to faults and the records they maintain. It’s all fine.

SATISFACTION

Despite of some small drawbacks (paint chipping, ankle posture etc.,) my wife and I are completely satisfied J. Offers premium comfort, optimum performance, great looks and reliability. Two thumbs up!

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AT LAST, SOME KIND ADVICE!

Because of frequent review hunting, looking & contemplating when I would grab my dream machine, my mind was obsessed with anxiety due to which I lost my sleep for some days. It is my loving and sincere advice for people seeking a bike, not to embrace anxiety. Persistent anxiety is not good for mind and builds stress on heart. KILL ANXIETY BEFORE IT KILLS YOU! Please wear helmet and always ride safe & defensively (since lot of head injuries occur because of a missing helmet) and have it in mind some loving hearts are awaiting you at home.

HAVE A GOOD TIME!

DISCLAIMER & STATEMENT OF REPROACH:

The whole review is solely based on my experience. It is not meant to demean or underrate a particular brand of two wheeler. This review has been created to guide people who consider 150CC bikes and especially Hero X-Treme. If any of the statements did hurt anyone’s sentiments or admirations please pardon.

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At the same time, I reproach ads, posters and all other media which is used by a particular brand to mock other brands in a tongue-in-cheek manner which certainly deteriorates their reputations.

Regards,
Arun Kumar

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Hitesh Kumar February 27, 2013 at 1:04 pm

Full marks to you bro.. for fantastic observation…Cheer…

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Arunkumar February 27, 2013 at 2:43 pm

Thank you very much Hitesh!

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sreedhar February 27, 2013 at 3:20 pm

Very nice review buddy……… but i felt honda unicorn might be a better choice than hero extreme……… hero after separation from honda providing hope less products many of friends complained.

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 8:39 am

It is all myth. Even when it was with HONDA, it was local HERO HONDA, i.e., “HERO” which manufactured all the products. HONDA is only a technology partner and nothing more. HONDA did not supply any manufactured product.

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Ashok Mudiraj February 27, 2013 at 4:27 pm

Thank you Mr. Arun, Nice review and all the best. regards,Ashok

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Irfan patel February 27, 2013 at 5:55 pm

I like your review,fully loded obserwation,and now i want buy this machine….’ike dude

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prashant February 27, 2013 at 6:28 pm

I have a question. Hunk, CBZXtreme, Acheiver comes with Honda Unicorn engines. Next year in 2014 there partnership will end completely. Hero will be operating on totally new technology borrowed from some other partner. What is the future of existing herohonda bike owners loaded with honda engines. Will Hero motocorp provide fullfledge service and spare parts of Hunk, Xtreme, Acheiver etc. please reply. thx

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 8:42 am

Prashant, we need not worry about it. HERO should have rights to manufacture its older spares further…Anyway, I dont know more about it. If Hero stops manufacturing older spares, I will seel my bike and start looking for a better one…thats all…

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Prof. Bhootnath February 27, 2013 at 10:29 pm

A very good, thorough and unbiased review.

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Mystry man February 27, 2013 at 10:39 pm

Dude…u have written that u ruled out fz-s because of low milage and reluctance towards YAMAHA…again u wrote that milage was not a concern as u were keen on purchasing YAMAHA r15 and tbts which returns 35-40kmpl….u are contradicting yourself!! Bad review…you should have read it atleast once before posting…

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 8:49 am

Hello mystery man, thanks for your comment. I rejected FZ not only for mileage, but for service network too. I want to explain you something. FZs are not designed for pillion comfort. But I needed a bike which could offer better comfort for the pillion too. I would accept R15′s mileage because it is designed for racing and adrenaline rush. But I need not accept a 150cc, 13.8 bhp, 13.6 Nm engine extracting only 35-40. That is not value for money. I was looking for R15 before marriage, but after marriage, I was concerned on my spouse’s comfort too. There are many factors why I rejected FZ-S. My review is not self-contradictory, but I might have missed some words….

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Shiva February 28, 2013 at 1:46 am

@ Arun:
I wasn’t a big fan of Xtreme (Don’t know why, but may be just because of its vibration), and in-fact i hate it.. But now-a-days whenever i see a CBZ your review comes in my mind :)
You’ve given equal space to both plus & minus of the bike, I would really appreciate your love towards the biking, especially while explaining about Pulsars horn – “Press the button and you will find way for a car”
A decent review that has everything it needs, i would close my eyes & will give 4 stars for this article !!

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harry February 28, 2013 at 8:31 am

Great……

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Arunkumar February 28, 2013 at 10:03 am

Hi Bike Advice. Thank you very much for publishing my review. But there is something I want to notify you that my title has been changed from “Hero X-treme 2012 350 kms ownership report” to “Hero CBZ X-Treme Ownership Review by Arun Kumar”. i.e., “CBZ” has been added while moderating the review. FYKI, all the present X-Treme motorcycles shall be named as “Hero X-Treme” and not “CBZ X-Treme” since “CBZ” is a characteristic name of HONDA and the prefix “CBZ” was used when HERO MOTO CORP was formerly known as HERO HONDA. Now, as all HERO motorcycles are being embossed with the name HERO, the prefix “CBZ” is excluded.

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faisal February 28, 2013 at 10:04 am

Quite a lot of cons but good to see the honesty.

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vimal February 28, 2013 at 10:47 am

Hi Mr Arun,
Excellent review that i so far come across in Bike advice.
Yep..like u mentioned Hero products are reliable… I previously used Splendour + for 5 yrs from 2007 to 12 and i not even experienced single complaint riding in harsh conditions in Chennai except punctures(practically not accounted for bike perf)/cold start prob which is obvious for an 100cc bike with normal engine to happen. Bt when it comes to service in Chennai, i don think so its so customer friendly by service people, may be you will come across such instance in future and hopefully it shouldn’t happen. Nw i am using Pulsar 150 for 10 months frm May 12.Pulsar is very good to rave in Chennai kind of busy traffic but i find little inconvenience due to the engine nature like rough gear shifting unlike Hero/Honda’s butter smoothness, frequent service is required to keep chain stiffness intact.
Initially bef buying p-150, i considered to go for Hero CBZ Xtreme bt i dropped my idea mainly because of the absence of Kick starter that time and finally Hero updated that now.
Finally well done for purchasing Hero Extreme…. COngrats

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 8:58 am

Vimal, thank you for your comment. I accept that there may be some service centers which fail to satisfy their customers. But we owners should be united to stand against these issues and raise our voice towards the management. They should rectify those issues, else, we should be ready to complain it to Hero Moto Corp….It happens…even in my nearest service center, one of the executives were very indolent in attending to my concern. I have noted him and if he repeats it again, I will complain it to the service center management.

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Crazywheels February 28, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Missed Unicorn in the scrutiny session. Its the most comfortable bike for touring. the only draw back are the outdated design and lack of Digital speedo. Many doctors are also considering Unicorn/ RE Bullet( old) for the patients with back pain issues.

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 8:59 am

Crazywheels, I did not consider Unicorn since it did not attract me and lacked tubeless tyres…Thanks for your comment.

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Pushan February 28, 2013 at 5:11 pm

Very nice and detailed ownership review Arun. Since I am leaving a feedback, I would suggest keeping things a bit more crisp(entirely my opinion) as at some parts there is too much detailing. However, as a rider myself who has gone through similar anxiety pangs while choosing his ride, I would like to appreciate the genuine concern that you have for buying the right machine.

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 9:00 am

Pushan, your comment is appreciated, thanks to you!

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Vignesh February 28, 2013 at 6:17 pm

Nice review dude

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Dhanasekar February 28, 2013 at 10:35 pm

good and excellent review and also give some further updates after longterm ownership

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Ashis February 28, 2013 at 11:23 pm

Very Nice Review Arun Kumar. I’ve a new Hunk which has clocked more than 9300 Kms and the only cons is mileage which varies from 41-50Kmpl and only 108Kmph top speed. Xtreme and Hunk share same engine and believe me I’ve never spent anything on Engine at all ( except Oil ). Engine reliability is very good with no problems at all. Never had a puncture till now lol.

Other strong competitor is CB Unicorn or Dazzler. It has the smoothest mill & more refined than anything i’ve ridden till now.

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Chinnu March 1, 2013 at 12:44 am

Hi Arun, this is chinnu from b’lore, who is a owner of CBZ X-tream 2010 model, the review what u have given is awesome, but engine kill switch really it lacks, even I miss it too, coz b’lore is crowded with huge traffic so often I used to switch of the engine @ that time we need to use ignition switch, but u have spoken abt the engine that has been changed, so here u need to correct, nothing as been changed in engine, but for same days they had stopped manufacturing with kick start but now its there in New x-treme nothing changed in engine and best thing i like in this bike the silent sound and smoothness where no bike can match it, expect Honda Unicorn, the best bike in 150cc.

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Prakash March 1, 2013 at 12:50 pm

As per my experience -
Cons:
Harsh Braking – Difficult in Hills riding.
Engine knocking.. in low RPM. (Not ideal for hills riding.)
Wight is felt in slow moving traffic where the gear box and response is very sluggish.
Pros:
Good for Highway riding.

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Mukesh March 1, 2013 at 5:23 pm

All those praising Honda Unicorn Dazzler, i would request you all to go and check that junk. Agree that old Unicorn was good. But New Dazzler is a piece of crap.

And not just Dazzler, every Honda bikes now a days are crap…..they have significantly reduced the quality of metals/paint/and plastics.
Arun bhai, its a gud choice.

I have done 8000 km on unicorn, 2000 on Dazzler, 5500 on twister, 15000 km on splender, 25000 on pulsar, and 38000 on Electra. And 3 years on Lambretta, 2 years on Bajaj Bravo. Found Hero Honda as the most reliable brand !

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 9:03 am

Thanks Mukesh! I am glad to have an veteran rider here.

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Mukesh March 1, 2013 at 5:30 pm

Please while choosing Honda thinks they are buying some like high end Honda sports bikes…and makes an impression of their quality.
But the Honda’s India product are of cheap quality.

Go to a Honda showroom, check all their bikes, and they go to all other brands.
You will see the difference.

Don’t go by Honda’ stature in Car, or in sports bike segment. You would regret !

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true March 7, 2013 at 2:13 pm

What is honda’s stature even in cars in India? They are no where. Even new entrants like VW have better sales in India.

All honda products are hightly overpriced. Value conscious Indian customers have mostly rejected honda cars. Even Honda service and spares are very costly; this discourage many people.

Last year, honda suddenly reduced price of City and Jazz by up to Rs 1 lakh. Now, think about all the people who purchased at higher price. Last year, suddenly honda discontinued Civic and recently discontinued Jazz also.

People appreciate good quality. But if highly overpriced, it will be rejected.

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true March 3, 2013 at 10:41 pm

Buddy, for highway riding and people who ride long distances daily, Gs150r is the best choice. The bike just cruises on highways in 6th gear. Also, with good torque, the gs150r can be rode in slow city traffic too without any problems, like any other 150cc. Nice digital meter with very useful gear position indicator also. Gear position indicator is not present in other bikes. Seat and footpeg ergonomics is very comfortable. The only drawback is no rear disc brake.

The only good thing in the CBZx is the rear disc brake. But the big negative is that CBZx still comes with the 9-year-old honda engine. Also, misses engine kill switch.

Yes, unicorn and dazzler still have this same old engine, but honda have refined this engine in their bikes. Hero does not seem to have these improved engines.

The kerb weight of Gs150r is 149 kg and kerb weight of Cbz is 150 kg. No they do not weigh so heavy all the time; kerb weight includes weight of full tank of fuel.

So for all practical reasons, they will weigh 5 kg lighter, as nobody has full tank fuel all the time.

As far as Apache, man the RTR180 is a great bike too. You can rip it in high speeds, and it will tolerate it without any problem. Engine is durable. But RTR size is a bit small. RTR180 is very good, but RTR160 is not so good. In my opinion, TVS bikes have better paint finish and costlier parts than Hero.

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marks March 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm

හුකන ඉන්දියන් බඩු

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sivam March 4, 2013 at 3:18 pm

Thanks for lengthy review.very Useful.Your view ön bajaj products may be true.
I own a bajaj..,

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Arunkumar March 5, 2013 at 9:07 am

I thank everyone who have spent their valuable time leaving comment for my article, thanks Bike Advice too!

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antony March 8, 2013 at 12:55 pm

haiii dear,
nice review, you have made good effort for this review but you havnt tried to read it before you post, i think. You have written your concern about milage when describing FZ and later you said milage is not a concern, then handling you started explaining about this bike and ends saying R15 is the best and remember 150 kg is not a matter when considering weight and handling relation, even 180kg RE having good handling.

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Arunkumar March 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Hello Antony, thanks for your comment. I rejected FZ not only for mileage, but for service network too. I want to explain you something. FZs are not designed for pillion comfort. But I needed a bike which could offer better comfort for the pillion too. I would accept R15′s mileage because it is designed for racing and adrenaline rush. But I need not accept a 150cc, 13.8 bhp, 13.6 Nm engine extracting only 35-40. That is not value for money. I was looking for R15 before marriage, but after marriage, I was concerned on my spouse’s comfort too. There are many factors why I rejected FZ-S. My review is not self-contradictory, but I might have missed some words….

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Reeto March 8, 2013 at 4:40 pm

Good review. It wasn’t boring at all to read, just that engine and other mechanical components is the heart of a machine which in Hero’s case is borrowed from Honda. A body without the support of a heart is useless, just like Hero without Honda.

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Shubham Thorat March 9, 2013 at 2:52 am

Great review! And btw, R15 Generates a power output of 17.4 bhp and torque of 15Nm. And my R15 is returning me a FE figure of 42 kmpl!

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Karmajit March 9, 2013 at 6:27 am

the suspension part is cent percent true……
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I have felt that the suspension of the hero bikes, like cbz and hunk, are soft and comfortable………..
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but my personal opinion is that in its bikes, hero concentrates only on quality, not on the customer…….like you said that low brightness LCD,…..and difficulty in trip meter………

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Karmajit March 9, 2013 at 6:28 am

they make products that make them look good…..but do not satisfy the consumers

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Vishwa March 9, 2013 at 10:10 am

Hi Arun,

Nice article.
But somewhere i see that u mention in one case u say the mileage is not a constraint and for yammie u say because of mileage u decided not go with the yammie. m quite confused and want to know was there any other factor because of which u did not go for the yamaha bike ?

Did you try to check the Honda unicorn before buying the Hero CBZ. ?

I had bought a Unicorn in 2006 and sold it in 2009 and again bought the same bike in 2011 and even after almost 6 + years the bike still looks brand new and i hardly spend on the maintenance .:)

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Fahim Reza March 18, 2013 at 11:37 am

Hi Arun,
Nice and very informative article.
I’m form Dhaka, Bangladesh. Currently I’m using a YAMAHA Fazer but not happy with the mileage. Because everyday I’ve to ride over 40km and want to change my bike. Me and my wife both like CBZ but still some confusion in mind. So I need your suggestion regarding few issues as you are using the CBZ:
1. will it be ok for a man who rides everyday for a long time and distance?
2. how much comfortable for female pillion?
3. how much heat it generate in heavy traffic congestion?
Please give me your valuable insight.
Have a happy riding :)

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Arunkumar March 21, 2013 at 1:03 pm

Hi Fahim, thanks for your comment. Fazer is a great machine but it is not for the pillion, especially females. X-Treme offers a great comfort but the seats are quite stiff. Hence sometimes, it gives slight pain to my butt. Pillion has more seating space but the pillion too feels the seat quite hard. If you are travelling daily with a pillion, (especially, a female) you need to be aware of this issue. If you travel alone, then close your eyes and go for the X-Treme. X-treme scores well in mileage department. It runs more than 50 kms for a liter. Fahim, every engines heat up as a result of prolonged usage. Every engine gets heated up when used in congested trafffic. I have used it congested traffic too. but I rarely felt heat. Hero engines are highly reliable, hence you rely it in this section. If you want to have a second option, Suzuki GS-150R stands the best in pillion and rider comfort and suits you perfectly for the distance you ride daily. I dont know whether Suzuki sells this product in your country, if yes, just go for it and you will certainly rejoice in it. Feel free to ask me more about it…

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Fahim Reza March 23, 2013 at 8:42 am

Thanx Arun…..again you helped me a lot…..you are right Suzuki GS-150R is not available in my country….hopefully in the beginning of April I’ll bring my X-Treme. I heard that X-Treme’s shock absorber is very good…is it right?

Thanx once again….. :)

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Arunkumar March 26, 2013 at 1:34 pm

Hi Fahim, advanced congrats on your new X-Treme. Yes, X-Treme has a wonderful suspension. Every part of Hero is of fine quality, reliability and durability. I wanto add something. When you stich a new cover for the seats, dont go for the thicker one because it will cause more stiffness. Hence go for the soft one. Happy and safe riding!

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sachin March 23, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Very wonderfull advice and keen observation.
DOUBLE THUMBS UP.

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Arunkumar March 26, 2013 at 1:35 pm

Thank you very much Sachin!

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Psk June 6, 2013 at 4:11 pm

Hi Arun,
Very nice review. I am planning to buy Hero CBZ – Xtreme new module, i heard lot of users (online reviews) are complaining about the bike VIBRATION if you cross 50KM speed may be after one year or more.. I bit confusing !! I like the bike look, reasonable mileage and height. Please suggest !

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Arun June 24, 2013 at 2:52 pm

Dear PSK,
Yes, there are some very negligible vibrations around 50km/h. But very negligible. Be it known to you that no bike is completely void of vibrations. Every bike has some vibrations at a certain RPM band. But I would strongly suggest you go for the Hunk since in X-treme, you have to struggle a bit to lean both your toes onto the ground since the seat of X-treme is very wide. This issue is not present in Hunk. But the engine is very smooth before after 55kmph. You should acknowledge another issue that the present bikes of Hero shall be available only upto 2014 since the agreement between Hero & Honda ends here. But spares will be available there after. Service is also not well in my area. They only have a large network, but it is all waste. They never attend to the problems completely. I have to take my bike to the SC 3-4 times after each service since they do not attend to every complaint I make. Service is bad. They are not treating the free service customers well. They are very ignorant. You should inquire the customers of your nearest SC and you may opt that SC. Otherwise, the bike is a good one. I strongly suggest you Hunk. Final decision is yours.

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Arun June 24, 2013 at 3:04 pm

Anyway, if you are convinced completely with X-Treme and if your height is a bit above 175cms, then X-Treme would exactly match you. Excellant suspension and nice handling and satisfies me with optimal features. But if tubeless tyres are not an issue for you, you may also consider GS-150R which is also an equal option. FZ if you can live with 45-50kmpl mileage. Dazzler if you can adjust un-availability of kick start facility. Anyway, my preference would be 1) GS150R and 2)FZ and then others. Contact me for more details. arun_zion@yahoo.co.in

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Ajay August 8, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Hi Arun , I am planning to but the same bike , but I have 2 concerns which are not shared here .
1) the kick start is missing , so the auto start is having any trouble for any of the user that you are aware of , I heard its there for few bajaj avenger users (should be similar to the pulsar users too)
2) is ground clearence any issue while driving in city , in case any ocassional spped breaker is there .

another question not regarding the same , for normal city drive to office and few long trips , does it makes a diff while on a 150 cc bike or on 180 cc bike.

Better to be clear on these points before purchasing.

Ajay

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Arunkumar August 12, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Dear Ajay,
The new Hero X-Tremes does not and should not miss kicker. HMC manufactures them with the kicker. You should watch the photos of my bike I have posted in this review. Self start would be comfortable untill the battery drains out. After that, you need to push the vehicle to start it. That would be a tedious one, especially in dense traffic. Upto that, self-start is of no problem. Hero’s quality speaks.
Ground clearance is ok. But sometimes, the center stand used to hit the speed breakers making a scratching sound.
There would be apparently great difference riding a 150CC engine compared with riding a 180CC engine. There would be atleast 2 bhp difference and an appropriate difference in the torque as well.

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akshay agrawal September 2, 2013 at 9:06 pm

I also own a hero xtreme bike…no doubt,its a nice bike in all perspective,but the things that i do not like about the bike is the body paint…paint quality is not that good…

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Shivaji Prasad M October 28, 2013 at 2:45 pm

Dear Arun,
This is shivaji from Hyderabad.I have faced handle,foot rest vibration and engive overting problem enen 5 Km ride with My CBZ Xtreme 2012.till runs 6500km only.please kindly give the solution for this.
Regards,
SHIVAJI PRASAD M.

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Arunkumar November 27, 2013 at 1:06 pm

Hi Shivaji, sorry for the late reply. During the previous service the service ment should have faultly adjusted the air screw which might result in engine over heating, the vibration as I think, should be from the excessive tightness of the valves. Ask the service center personnel to check the air screw settings and valve clearance. This should be enough. Else, if the problem persists check the mileage. If the mileage is between 48-50 at normal riding conditions, the air screw settings is ok, check whether the engine oil is changed periodically, as recommeneded. If all are ok, report it to the service center.

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Natesan November 1, 2013 at 8:03 pm

hello sir!, Happy diwali to and your family.
I have planned to buy hero x-treme for this diwali
i saw your review at bikeadvice.in, it has given me a clear idea to decide. Its nearly an year since you have bought that bike, what is the condition of the bike now?? how is its performance now?
My father insisted me to buy Honda CBUnicorn, but after reading your review he is fine with x-treme. Sir kindly please tel me whether i can go for hero x-treme finally ??

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Arunkumar November 27, 2013 at 1:01 pm

Hi Natesan, sorry for the late reply, please wait, dont go for the x-treme. Because it has comfort problem. I have sold our my x-treme because of this reason. Just close your eyes and go for the Hunk or Unicorn. X-treme is very painful to ride in traffic. The front leaning position gives more pain to my shoulder joints and palms. It leads to numbness of palms. You cannot place both the foot on the ground simultaneously because of the wide front seat. In the starting all these issue was ok, but eventually, it gave me more pain. Hence I have sold my X-Treme and have bought FZ. So you, please land on the Hunk or the Unicorn.

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Prajval February 16, 2014 at 10:04 pm

Hi Arun, Confused between Xtreme and Unicorn and I’m not using the bike frequently. So is there any battery issues with any of the bike?

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souren maitra March 18, 2014 at 3:01 pm

I am a bit hefty person and I am confused between pulsar(150) and cbz-xtrem. I need a bike that can give me mileage and at the same time carry my weight. Please help.

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