Hey guys. I was going through your comments and views in the various articles. I firstly would like to tell you all this: Pulsars are the bikes that has replaced the Bajaj scooters in India. And if you could really take a survey, all those who were speeding on Bajaj Super, Chetak, etc have upgraded themselves to Bajaj Pulsar 150/180 thinking they are really cool bikes. Firstly, pulsars have the worst driving maneuverability and are poorest at cornering. (I hope you all must have heard of this before). Added to this, they have a very strong ‘definitely male-ish’ body that begins to rust or corrode even in less than a year. Take a look at all the surveys and Bajaj Pulsars have caused the maximum fatalities ever in the 150/180cc segment, next to the Fiero which dint have any safety feature to it.
Added to this I would like to tell you a very recent experience where my friend had purchased a brand new Pulsar 180 DTSi and the engine ceased in 2 weeks. He got it repaired on warranty a couple of times and now he has sold it. So please forget the Pulsars if you are talking about good bikes and value for money in the 150/180/220 segment. Buy pulsars only if you wanted Yet Another Bike. Those bikes are running like scooters in India and you will definitely not be noticed on roads.
For someone who commented “Indian customers aren’t fools to be buying a so called ‘waste’ product for so many years”. So buying Pulsars is already a compromise on quality for money when you had so many good bikes. Indian customers cannot afford to buy a Honda CBR or the BMW which was launched like a many years back and hardly 1 or 2 units get sold. Give us one reason to prove those bikes are Wrong. Those are true bikes. I hope you understand where I am heading…
Other side, definitely the R15 has a proven technology and its an amazing bike in the 150CC segment. It has a amazing technology to compete the 220+ segment. But unfortunately it falls in the 150CC segment. The TVS and Pulsars are no match. If you are talking about the handling, R15 heads this followed by the Karizma ZMR due to its heavy weight compared to the Pulsar 220 which is lighter and worst at cornering. Please check the bikes reviews on Overdrive.
For those who had eagerly waited for the Ninja 250 and were disappointed by the high price tag. Karizma ZMR has a similar fairing and styling options except a few minus. If you would want yourselves to be among the 220 – 250 segment league with style, and comfortable on your pockets, Karizma ZMR is a big THUMBS UP and a very good option. It has all that you need in that segment and a sporty approach too.
- Sammy
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Sammy, You blindly hate Bajaj, don’t you! But your arguments do not have adequate backing up, it’s just your opinion. (Yeah of course it is).
I did not publish this as an article because it was good per se. I published it because it will really fire up a huge conversation fueled by Bajaj lovers. So Bajaj Fans… tear him apart…
Start!
Sir,
I agree with you ..
“Bajaj Pulsars have caused the maximum fatalities”
>>why blame a bike for accidents..the blame lies on the rider..in india anyone can get a license to ride..not necessarily that they should know how to drive..pulsar has got power which requires skill to control..and this is same for any 150cc+ bike..
“Bajaj Super, Chetak, etc have upgraded themselves to Bajaj Pulsar 150/180 thinking they are really cool bikes”
>>can you prove it by statistics…or is it just your opinion..
“pulsars have the worst driving maneuverability and are poorest at cornering.”
>>come on ..pulsars are never marketed for their handling like R15..nor do pulsar users go claiming this..i am not saying pulsars are superb.. they are not shit..as many biking experts can confirm..they are average handlers..though mono-suspension is missed..
>>”about engine ceasing, its unfortunate, surely something that I have seen happen with bikes of other brands too, a honda shine, HH Hunk, and unicorn, yes its manufacturer’s mistake, but not a domain only of Bajaj”
“Those bikes are running like scooters in India and you will definitely not be noticed on roads.”
>>not everyone rides bikes to be noticed on the road, some bikers buy bike to ride it, for thrill and fulfillment of riding to freedom..not necessarily to see how many people are staring at his bike,, of course everyone loves attention and admiration of their bikes..
Sammy, one can understand hating a brand, bad experiences can do that.. blind criticism is not always appreciated..
pulsar fans or owners know..that…
>>pulsars dont handle as well as R-15 or unicorn (corners)
>>they dont have smooth gearing like unicorn
>>quality is best among bajaj products but a bit low compared to honda..but bajaj is improving..
>>they are aware of all these things .. but they love pulsars.. they love the speed and thrills that come part of pulsar package…
and they love “the cult of pulsar”
so spread love not hate..
adios
hey sammy,
u seems totally biased towards ZMR nd asif ur paid for promoting zmr.neways cut ya crap nd stop ur shitty nonsense out der.u dumbA*s quotin “Indian customers cannot afford to buy a Honda CBR or the BMW which was launched like a many years back and hardly 1 or 2 units get sold”.coz pulsars r sold in humongous No`s indeed some or the other byk might tend to crop up n problem.but dat doesn’t mean u cud question pulsar reliability.even ive seen n yammie,honda been stranded in middle of d road nd wit accidents involving these byks.so dat means these byks r worst or dey hav sum manufacturing defect.lolz grow up n try to respect each n every byk coz each one has its own USP n charm dat cant b matched wit others.dis dumber comparin d sales of BMW or n CBR wit pulsar.u nuts look @ d value for money quotient.vch price bracket ur comparin wit u nuts.e.g n cbr 400 cum frn n tentative 5lacs n p-220 cum fr around 80 thousand on road.
evn m using n P-180 ug3 n till date it hasnt given me n single prob till date i.e with n ownership xperience of 2 yrs n i was so ascertain i went on n purchased P-220 dtsi.
so, dont just go by these fools clamin dis n that.pulsar hav created n benchmark in indian automotive history n ppl r not fool buying dem in numbers.so.Mr.sammy better get ur facts rite n try to prove ya point ba givin sum evidance or try to back ur statements by quoting sum reference links.
Its a plain waste of hard earned cash to spend on a bike that would kill you or tear your pocket in the workshop, I swear to god, last month one of my friends who owned a Pulsar 200, had a crash that left him paralyzed from the waist down, a year ago a classmate of mine almost got killed when his pulsar 150 skidded in the rain and crashed into an autorickshaw, a metal rod from the auto went through his legs and came out the other side, he repaired the bike and rode on for a while again after which the pistons simply siezed one fine day, and guess what, he fixed it again, finally he got so fed up of repairing and maintenance that he sold it to get a Karizma R.
A few days ago the local newspaper had a picture of a pulsar 180 lying on the side of the road beside and bus and guess what, the rider DIED. Every Pulsar owner I personally know have had accidents, big or small and have spent a lot of money on repairs once they have crossed 10,000 Kms, It is time for all you people to know that there is a lot of things fundamentally wrong with the Pulsar range of machines, ask a well experienced mechanic, he will tell you that the physics of the whole machine is blatantly wrong, in an emergency, if you were to brake hard, all the bike would want to do is tip over to the side and fall on the rider, Im not promoting any other bike or brand with this comment, I just want people to realize the cold hard facts and what the truth really is, if you want to see these facts for yourself, head over to http://www.consumercomplaints.in and type “pulsar” in the search box, you will be shocked to find out what the owners really have to say…
It is sadly one of the worst bikes to buy in the country today, I personally would never invest my money on a death warrant, if you do own a pulsar, I advice you to be careful with your riding styles, emergencies are not what it is built to handle. believe me.,,,
what a sentimental boy u are…..accidents are beacause of mistakes of riders not of bikes….stop this faulty comments!!!!!!!!
First of all, I’m not a Pulsar fanboy….
Please don’t make a blanket statement that all the Pulsars are of worst quality without any solid backing or just because of some individual cases.
There are lots of showboys who owns Pulsars and rips it like anything even before the run-in period. I don’t want to comment more about the future of their bikes.
And, if you type Unicorn(http://www.consumercomplaints.in/?search=unicorn) also you’ll get almost same number of cases.
If Pulsars are that much bad why it’s still selling 65,000 units a month.
ya i agree with u jacob….
hey ppl,
jst let me make sum thing clear out here.there r certain aspects that bajaj needs to b rectify some issues on their range of pulsarian products.nor pulsar is n brand dats doesnt hav ne concerns to luk aftr.the fatalities dat u all r quoting r not at all borne on manufacturers part.there r whole loads of things dat needs to b taken into consideration first viz.d uneven surfaces of INDIAN roads, d amount of driving sense with d current generation.ive seens ppl who hav not even completed 18 yrs of age(legal licencing age in INDIA) who hav got licence wit dem nd drive bikes abruptly n recklessly.these r those ppl who get involved in d drags n compete on roads vch r not to b ment for.especiallon indian roads conditions r n BIG NO for such sort of things.so one cant blame blind folded peculiarly “bajaj” byks for dis.i know der r sum qulaity issues pertaining wit bajaj but guys dey r really workin hard to over come their flaws by launchin each n bttr upgraded version of pulsar range in their portfolio.as m n owner of 180 ug3(2 yrs of ownership) n P-220 dtsi(jst 2 months old)i can bet on them any day for their reliability.dey r such n awesome machine to own nd to ride with, but with responsibilty n maturity onto ur shoulders.pulsars ver never meant for hardcore cornerning” but r v goin on n race track to show our cornerning stuff”.its all because of lack of driving -conditions,sense n corruption in RTOs dat needs to b blamed upon, b4 criticizing ne particular brand.
FYI:day b4 y`day a youth lost his life riding n pillion who was frm mahim(mumbai) on his way back home on his frnds yamaha r15(source Times Of India mumbai edition).so, does dat byk is vulnerable to accidents.in frnt of my eyes ive seen n rtr 160(orange colour) riding wit his mom pillion who both lost thier lives coz d byk skidded n dumper crushed dem off.so, arent these byks bttr handlers.first get ya fact rite b4 playing n blame game.
as far as pulsars r concerned dey r gud machines n better handler but coz of too many pulsar on road wit abundant raw power we cum across wit pulsarian who hav meet wit n accident.
m not biased towards pulsars but nor i can withstand against its reliability or its ability.coz as m using it i know its n far better handler.
I would not say Pulsars are bad but they aren’t the best either. Bajaj is improving and they will be up with Honda one day, some day!
I don’t say PULSAR is a bad bike to ride,but it lacks the reliability, quality, and low maintenance..that most 150′s possess
looks lik sammy was using a chetak and upgraded himself to a pulsar…..but sadly cudnt ride it well n met with an accident….its k loser ur pain can be seen in ur article……go get a life loser……read facts n then try to publish them
lolz…. thats all i can do….
Pulsar is a fairly good bike but let us not forget that Bajaj is still graduating if we compare it with other international bike makers (technology wise).It is also a fact that Bajaj is evolving as a big gun going through all its R&D efforts but the POINT is the cost of the R&D is being incurred by consumers of Bajaj.
In short if you can wait for another 10-15 years and let Bajaj fully developed, you will definitely get as refined product as any international automaker but if you cant and lured by the existing product line of Bajaj then why to BLAME Bajaj?
Bajaj scks big tym, dey sell nly coz dey r cheap .
dey r jst sme cheap cmmutr byks , nthin spcl .
apache is far bttr (minus vibrations)
wait fr apache rtr 200/220 , it wl kill d pulsar .
pulsar ki kya aukaat hai , mera dhodh wala bhi pulsar pe ata hai.
Hi to all,Deepak,
Bajaj is WROST in Quality compared to all other bike manufacturers in india HONDA, HH, YAMAHA, SUZUKI, TVS etc.
And the improvement rate is also very very slow compared to others.
The real example is the Pulsar model. God knows how long they will run this model.
Its not my personal opinion, all Experts say this.
>I firstly would like to tell you all this: Pulsars are the bikes that has replaced the Bajaj scooters in India
Yes it replaced the scooters im india, But it stirred up a new segments for bikers..No other bike manufacturers had that stylish macho look and excellent mileage for the power it genrated.
>Firstly, pulsars have the worst driving maneuverability and are poorest at cornering.
Dude this is totally a racist blow at pulsar..
firstly have you driven bikes..if yes how many ..?
I had the pulsar for 5 years and i had driven i all ways i can and its handling is pretty good.. if not the best.I could easily manuver it in worst of bangalore traffic.. i used to reach 15 min flat to my college which is 9km away in busy traffic.
>it begins to rust or corrode even in less than a year. Take a look at all the surveys and Bajaj Pulsars have caused the maximum fatalities ever in the 150/180cc segment,
In 5 years of my ownership i only had the crash guard corroded as it was a after market fitting and nothing else..
Accidents are not caused by bikes it caused by idiots who drive it..Every tom dick and harry had this bike assuming it as a super bike they caused accidents do u thing the bike is to be blamed..
>So buying Pulsars is already a compromise on quality for money when you had so many good bikes. Indian customers cannot afford to buy a Honda CBR or the BMW which was launched like a many years back and hardly 1 or 2 units get sold
India being a value sensitive country people dont bikes here just for fun they use it for day to day life..
person who can afford 5-12 lakhs in india thinks about a 4 wheeler and not a 2 wheeler with more power and our infrastructure does not help it either..
1-2 enthusiasts buy those bikes who can afford it
>rest of your comments
Ya i do agree R15 is a good handler but not definetly karizma does not handle so well..[not talking about zmr]
my cousin and i shared pulsar and his karizma its no good than pulsars in handling but definetly more comfortable in long journey and seating position..
reagrding your engine got ceased my friend passions gear got fully jammed on 4 day of ownership.. this can happen to any bikes of any manufacturers..
COMING TO THE MOST FUMMY PART
karizma is as good as ninja lol………….
this has to be the biggest joke u are comparing a race class bike to an ordinary commuter with same cc segment
they are totally different.. its ergnomics stability redlining etc cannot be matched to karizma..
I think you just bought a karima or in the process, good luck respect the facts and critize the wrongs. just dont conclude youself.
PS I now own a yamaha FZ16 and i miss my pulsar dearly
Hi Sammy,
I completely agree with you. The best thing in Bajaj is their advertisements and promos and a some P220. I am not a Bajaj hater, It feel great when I see an Indian Company giving a tough competition to the Japanese manufacturer. The caption “Hamara Bajaj” or “Definitely Male” or “Distinctly Ahead” or “The Fastest Indian” makes every such Indian and Bike enthusiastic emotionally attached to the company.
I have a CBZ-X and a P200. The CBZ is 2 and 1/2 year old and the Pulsar 200 is 1 year 8 months old. So I have the opportunity to compare the both bike. My experience is really the worst for P200. The build quality of pulsar is extremely poor. The engine refinement is not even compared to the CBZ. The Pulsar looks good, have a nice thumping sound and sporty riding posture but after 1 and half year its a big Thumb Down. Whereas the HH CBZ-X makes me a satisfied and proud owner.
If anyone ask me which is the best bike in 150 cc, my suggestion will be (ENGINE REFINEMENT & TECHNOLOGY, STYLE & LOOKS, SPORTY RIDING POSTURE AND STABILITY)
1. YAMAHA R15
2. YAMAHA FAZER
3. YAMAHA FZ-16 AND FZ-S
4. SUZUKI GS-150R
5. HERO HONDA HUNK
6. HERO HONDA CBZ-X
7. TVS APACHE 160
8. BAJAJ PULSAR 150
9. HONDA UNICORN
10.HERO HONDA ACHIEVER
Pulsar is jst a fckin idiot blot on our automobile industry .
it started gud bt bcame a cpy cat aftr sme tym , thn it bcame a copycat ! apache has a league of its own
no way pulsar is a tested bike and it is since 2001……ride it before giving comments lol!
LED tail lights save energy and also should last for a life time. but in many pulsar’s i have seen the LED bulbs are faulty.
one of my frieds rear brake rod is broken. (i heard for the first time and the bike is only 6 years old).
This thread is getting hotter than I thought! But its good to see opinions from both the perspectives.
I have deleted a lot of comments which were Xtremely abusive. Please convey your thoughts in a polite manner. “Bad” comments will be deleted.
ya deepak u deleted them….i can visualize what it would be…..
Sammy’s views are totally skewed. I think he is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I have been using a Bajaj Avenger for the last 4.5 years. I would firstly like to commend the excellent response by Bajaj Probiking Staff whenever i have a problem. Bajaj’s bike have some minor quality issues like Clutch lining and Brake system (drum brake) being not up to the mark. But we have to commend Bajaj, being a totally indigenous effort to develop a cost effective and stylish range of products starting from Caliber to the iconic Pulsar 150 /180/220 series. Hats off to them.
Sammy’s article is quite evidently a myopic view of Bajaj. Definitely Bajaj staff are not arrogant like the Honda sales guys whom i had met several times in course of my colleagues decision to bike Unicorn / Shine bikes. The top management attitude filters down to the last level.
bajaj lures customers in a trap by fabolous markting n advertising techniques n when u buy a pulsar/discvr/xcd , its fine for 1 yr. fr mst of d cases . thn , as soon as the warranty ends , bike apni aukaat pe aa jati hai . dn its u & ur stupid pulsar nly.
i have discover135 and it is running butter smooth…….(purchase date 2 sep. 2009)……….
even i have discover 135 and except the cornering(leaning) stuff we seldom use on our roads
this is the best bike for commuting and its quality is not bad either.in past three years i spent less amount for servicing than my previous 100cc’s.its also fun to ride and the engine is eager to rev up. but d only problem is it vibrates between 5-6krpm(resonance stuff) and at remaining speeds the engine is refined.
Well Dear’ol Sammy,
It is sure that for some reason you hate “The Pulsar”… a lotta people do… either some of them can’t afford them, or its just too much of a machine for them, or they bought some other make and now want to nag that their one is better… for you, I think it is the second point.
In the current market scenario, everyone I mean everyone tries to give their customers, the very best for the price they are paying… So hommie don’t hate the player, hate the game…
And lastly, cornering, accidents, build-quality… its all the Rider never the Ride… A new bike is more of a girlfriend, you don’t take care of it, it’ll cheat… next time whenever buy a bike or a car, dont go for the discounts or the goodies you get along… Whether you buy a hero puch or the very mean Hayabusa, ride safe, have fun, respect the ride (urs & others) and keep the rubber-side down.
Cheers
DUDE I HAVE TO BE FRANK WHENEVER I HAVE ridden A BAJAJ WHETHER ITS THE CRUISER OR THE SPORTS BIKE I HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT THE HANDLING IS YUCK YUCK nd yuck nd everytime i did that i felt how could indians throw away their money in the gutter by buying a bajaj product. atleast the company should also start giving out free life insurance to its customers considering the fact the amount of widows and orphans it leaves
Simple facts. Yamaha started with YBX (failed – looked bad and nobody wanted performance 4s). CBZ created a good segment (HONDA CBR stuff – not HH) and Fiero followed with “commuter” thing. 2001 saw the birth of Pulsar, It had both CBZ and Fiero’s features. Was a runnaway success. Coming back to Nov 2009, we have a handfull of 150+ cc bikes. Many young students and professionals buy them. But very rarely they know how to handle them (in city to be precise). You think that your bike can handle any hell situation but finally you end up in hell. Lets realise some more facts. Pulsars sell around 50000 in numbers, surely more than any other 150+cc bike. So more people meet with accidents only on pulsars. Pulsar is heavy and big compared to say Apache and FZ, more accident prone. Its tough to squeeze thru in traffic, yet you carry so much speed in your third gear and end up facing the lamp post. Many guys who bought pulsar find it hard in parking lot. They dont have the energy to push this beast. Yet they buy these bikes.
Quality is not good, agreed. But driving habits need to change. Sammy, you are die hard fan of one brand and literally enemy to another brand. You are not a biker to tell the facts.
Until crazy bikers are there, accidents would happen. The bike should be in our control rather than we being in its control. Remember this while driving.
I suppose, No one is against Bajaj, its only the quality of the Products that everyone are against. Think logically Its evident that a One Year old PULSAR 220 DTSFI is not the same as a One Year old R15.The Engine sounds absolutely awkward and the Owner himself hates the bike. Its enough you see the bike you can feel the Vibes, I took a ride in the DTSFI everything was vibrating including ME, just @6K RPM. Moreover Now Bajaj has aggressively Marketed the P220 Dtsi without FI at a Lower Price, So Guess the Quality that Bajaj is going to offer. Bajaj has almost everything, Except the Poor Quality and the outdated Handling Techniques. Instead of inserting Spark Plugs in every Hole or Bringing UG 1 2 3 4…… Please do something to give your Customers a Good Product. Thats the only thing Bajaj lacks to get to the Top Position, which is currently held by HH.
Pulsars hav loadz of initial pick-up whch leadz to many accidents… tatz it. tat is the only reason… one of the comments said tat In India every1 getz a license even though u dont attend da test. My friend got his car n bike license jst by sitting at home n by paying 2500 bucks. he went out for a ride on his Karizma n landed up in the hospital. now is fair for me to say tat Karizma is a f**king bike??? is it da bikes fault or riders??? da rider obviously…
ur pulsar is becoming a mess aft 1-2 years means tat ur not taking proper care of it dammed…
My father owns a Bajaj Chetak whch is 20years old! n is stil superb! Sammy boy, “its all abt da rider not da bike…” get this sentence into ur so called Dumb Brain…
Finally i say – Dont listen to ‘Sammy da Dumb Kid’, take any bike n take care of it, it will take care of u…
Hey u hate Bajaj that is 4 sure….but let me tell u something…I Have a Bajaj Pulsar and i never got any complaints or problems…coming to its handling and cornerability it is far better than Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme or Hunk or Honda Unicorn….u don have any right to criticise any company dude……and by the way u wrote Karizma has all features compared to Ninja…Sorry boss…Where is Karizma and Where is Ninja….u cannot compare an Ambassador with a Nissan 350Z….guess u getting my point…a 225cc Kakuzma cany be compared with Ninja zx250r….it will kick the butts of all Indian Bikes….so my sincere suggestion to all readers…Collect money,save ,take loan (:P) do anything and get a Ninja….and u will Rule the Indian Roads For atleast some more years…
:):) and the new Kakuzma(Karizma) sucks…same engine no change in performance…
@Soumen Ghosh on November 15, 2009 at 11:26 pm
@ram on November 16, 2009 at 12:20 am
@S.B on November 16, 2009 at 11:30 am
Grow up men………..
the bst byks in d indian markt nwadays r,
yam crux(100 cc)
yam gladiator(125 cc)
yam fz/yam r15/apache rtr 160(150 cc)(dpnds on ur pcket n choice)
apache rtr 180 (180 cc)
bajaj p220(nly fr prfrmnce n val fr mony, evrythng else scks) n ninja250 .
ok buddy….
this is ridiculous….
who the hell are u??
are u qualified enough to say about the quality of a bike???
an year and a half back i dint like bajaj bikes at all…
then my brother forced me into opting for a pulsar 220 where the options were pulsar and karizma r.
the r15 had just hit the market then. so eventhough i wanted r 15, i went for the big pulsar…
an year and a half later, now, i am saying thank god i took the pulsar,… its still one of the best bikes around in the market… one of the best performer….
and about cornering, u have no clue on wat u r talking about, come to my place and i will show u how to lean on a pulsar…..
also the accidents thing, i never had even a small accident on my pulsar and am actually a very aggressive tourer.. my bike have completed 30k + kms in 1 and a half year and most of my touring is on high range. so that is yet another example for pulsar’s cornering ability. and am still a yamaha fan as i have always been. but now i am a bajaj fan too…
so if u have a problem with bajaj, dont buy one for urself.. but dont talk about something u dont actually know…..
At least bajaj is progressing… starting from the year 2002 model to the 2009 ones.. bajaj has come a long way… This is the bike that beat the shit out of CBZ and at the end sending it out of production… (by the way I liked the old CBZ…) still hero honda is producing ridiculously designed bikes including the new yes NEW ZMR!!! Adding an engine cover, new instrument console and FI does not do the job… The bike look pathetic with the chain cover and the engine cover… and the head light just doesn’t suit it! TVS has been working hard on their bikes and I must even they have improved… an ingenious example is the RTR 180… Honda has got Unicorn… and in the name of upgrades all you will find are new stickers… Yamaha bikes are no doubt good but being overly priced the bikes look overdone… R15 look more like a chinese version of R1 with bicycle tyres.. and FZ16 born with a thought that it is FZ1 So… what all other bike manufacturers do is design stickers and not bike… whereas TVS and Bajaj have come with performance bikes that are in reach of everyone and are very refined in quality, features and performance.
Hi Sammy,
I respect your opinions as an individual. But they seem to be quite biased and lack the backing of facts. Just to quote a few lines :
>>And if you could really take a survey, all those who were speeding on Bajaj Super, Chetak, etc have upgraded themselves to Bajaj Pulsar 150/180 thinking they are really cool bikes.
Baseless comment. I dint have a bajaj scooter and i have a P220 now. Totally redundant statement. I personally had a splendor before this, so u cant really generalize this.
>> Added to this, they have a very strong ‘definitely male-ish’ body that begins to rust or corrode even in less than a year.
Again, cant generalize, i have owned it for almost 2 years now. Not a single place it has corroded. I think two years is more than a year i suppose. Yea, given that i take care of it.
>>Take a look at all the surveys and Bajaj Pulsars have caused the maximum fatalities ever in the 150/180cc segment, next to the Fiero which dint have any safety feature to it.
Which surveys are u talking about. Care to share the source. I can write too that that ZMA has had the maximum fatalities (or heck even the R15) as long as i donn have to share the source
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>>Indian customers cannot afford to buy a Honda CBR or the BMW which was launched like a many years back and hardly 1 or 2 units get sold. Give us one reason to prove those bikes are Wrong. Those are true bikes. I hope you understand where I am heading…
Personally i can buy one of these, but donn do so coz i see no point in buying a bike in 12 lakh , which the rest of world can get in 6 lakhs (read indian stupid import policy). In short i cant pay more than its worth. How do u know these are true bikes ? Does the top speed and acceleration alone make it one ? Or something else that u might have noticed riding one?
>>For those who had eagerly waited for the Ninja 250 and were disappointed by the high price tag. Karizma ZMR has a similar fairing and styling options except a few minus. If you would want yourselves to be among the 220 – 250 segment league with style, and comfortable on your pockets, Karizma ZMR is a big THUMBS UP and a very good option. It has all that you need in that segment and a sporty approach too.
First i see you comparing R15 with almost 1.5 times the cost with P220, so that clearly means u are not at all concerned abt the price. Then u kick out Ninja on the basis of price ??? Couldnt understand what you are trying to prove?
I have a UG4 180cc Pulsar… its simply awesome… a lot of people are definitely jealous as they have their own reasons to not like pulsar and yet can’t stand its popularity… the many accident cases associated with pulsar is simply because there are many pulsars running, majority of all bikes on road are pulsars… so eventually there will be pulsars when there are accidents… i believe my 180cc behaves like a chained beast if i ride it slow, but when i hit it at 90-126, i have never ever felt unsafe… personal riding has a lot of impact on accidents too, your bike will behave like you behave, whether u ride the 220, or the chetak scooter!
there was a time when i didn’t like pulsars myself.. it was because the CBZ was ruling my heart.. but now i know there is no bike which can make me feel the way i feel when i am on my 180!
Keep burning folks!!
Pulsars aint best, i agree, bt they r d best
I had owned a CT100 5 years back and its performance inspired me to go for bajaj only when i wanted to purchase a bike with my own money, n thank god i went fr p220.
And pls, stop comparing Ninja atleast with ZMR. Man, you really need to grow up!
hey sammy .. u seem to hate Bajaj alot.. well its u ..
jus think of de torque n top speed de bajaj 220 produces wit 220cc.. think of de ZMR .. it has 223 cc engine n jus 17 ps .. don u think wat BAJAJ can do..
n i agree r15 is faster than 220 FI for 150cc .. but it is over priced .. only bajaj has given everything at a cool price .. de Pulsar series was a massive hit .. y is it so popular if it had dat much issues ..
Bajaj’s quality is going down with passing day, the current lot of Pulsars are packed with bundles of niggles.
Pulsars weight distribution is not correct, high spped plus sharp braking plus more number on road plus more hooligans owning Pulsars makes it NATURAL No.1 in FATALITIES. Go to any police station you see only Pulsars as siezed vehicles, even when it comes to repayment of loans Pulsar owners rules, ICICI bank rounded up more than 4,500 Pulsars for non-payment of loans….
Having said, people will still buy Pulsars…..when I bought my new bike (CBZ-Xtreme) a 9 year old girl (neighbour) commented ‘Uncle why you didn’t buy Pulsar’ !!!!
pulsar sucks , i wud nvr buy a bike as cmmn as maruti 800 . its like a maruti 800 exctly, it started evrythng bt it wl nt finish evrythng . tvs n yamaha rule d roads nw . rst all suck . hero honda n honda is for fat uncles who nvr drive abve 60 kmph !!!!
Pulsar is god. It is perfect. Imperfection is in the riders you all are talking about.
SAMMY!!u must grow up man.have u ever ridden pulsar220 or atleast 180ug4?.pulsar rocks…..by the way deepungsu how is ur bike…wat is ur bikes mileage?.
i have 180ug4,its giving mileage around 43-47 in city.
Hey Sammy!
My Bike’s great! you can read my review in BikeAdvice here, search for Intrepido, that’s what I call my bike…
Currently my bike has done 3300kms and I’m riding it like a 180, so i’m getting 50-51kmph per litre…
@Sammy
Have you ever owned a pulsar anytime???????????????
Your opinions are sooooo st*p*d above there….
Which f**king surveys are u talking about?
What safety features the other bikes (non bajaj) have?
You r comparing quality,dynamics,technology of pulsar with others e.g.karizma?
karizma is a lone puppy compared to pulsars n the ZMR the stupid fat ass,standing in the showrooms for past 1.5 months n non seem to have hit the roads
Hey Sammy…
u stay in India man so u hav 2 learn to compromise,n if indian companies were dat bad thn dey wuldnt hav dat much value in da international market,n ya mind u India is da 2nd largest 2 wheeler market in da world n so if dese bikes consist dat market den dese r da global bikes or else pepl lets kick his ass out of our country
No point comparing Pulsar with R15.R15 is miles ahead in terms of technology.The reason why it is a great handler.Pulsars are the worst handlers,the gear shifting is also no match to any Yamaha.Unfortunately because of the BHEDCHAAL in our country and lack of education (Not academic but on biking and automobiles.I do not know how many riders understand the chassis geometry,the distribution of mass etc)any machine can sell well.This is no indication of quality.
i agree with u sammy…really pulsar sucks…..HH rocks…i know abt HH performace coz my bro have zma and i have zmr…..both r cool bikes…..we buy zma on 2006 and still its burning the roads….poor pulsar
…HH rocks
hh can not do anything with honda……bajaj is a descent brand and its pulsar is a fantastic too…..so stop abusing about other bikes ……don’t be jealous….
pulsars are the best bikes in india……….if u service it properly then u will get a mean machine at a reasonable price.
hey i don’t understand what u guys talking about…..each bike has its pros and cons….come on….bajaj is the most technologically advanced companies in india….but they need to catch up the quality of clutches and other parts,…if that is done then it will be the best bikes….and comeing to HH….wat is the difference b/w karizma r and zmr….huh…crazy people…jus looks…the FI dint make any difference in its performance….bajaj bikes have the josh that no other indian bikes have….bajaj KTM will get into market and they they will kick on the HH’s butt…..the new 220 can leave karizma far behind on a stretch…and maintain ur bikes…they will give life….accidents can happen on any bike….ride safe….ride responsibly…
dudes…..first maintain ur bikes properly and ride responsibly….and we don’t have any right to comment on any manufacturers….they do lots of research adn analysis and then get the bikes in market…if bajaj is not a good company why is it ruling the roads now.???? use ur brains…..all bikes have their pros and cons….i respect hh for its quality….and bajaj is working on it…and the new bikes from bajaj are awesome…see the baby pulsar 135….it is so refined and it is so good in handling and performance and mileage too….see the technology DTS-i 4 valve engine….it can easily take up any 150 cc bike in initials….so bajaj is working on quality…and i am damn sure bajaj will be the india’s best 2 wheeler manufacturer in few years…it has already started….it introduced ninja 250…..it will introduce KTM bikes too…bajaj will show what true bikes are….so hh keep urself firm….u might fly away wid this competion…
lol..”bajaj super and bajaj chetak” are four stroke while pulsar is a four stroke bike……
sorry, its my typing mistake—–bajaj super and bajaj chetak are four stroke*
——-they have two stroke engines…
prikshit.
Dear, Pulsar haters.
Pulsars are considered as God for we Pulsar owners because of the fact that we love it and treat it as a Living being. I have owned a Pulsar 220 as well as a R15. I have traveled 23000Kms in 1 year on my Pulsar and have used in roads where even walking is something people back off for. And to my surprise my Pulsar never gave any trouble anywhere. Be it a Off road muddy, rocky paths or a Slippery heavy flooding waters. I have traveled a distance of 700kms in a Single day just by trusting my Pulsar and single handed. I could cover this in just 11 hours. Past the year that I have bought my baby I have not even fell or met any minor accidents Single time.
When it comes to your beloved R15 and the ZMR’s they are not the kind of bikes one can use for everything. They are limited to usability.
For example-R15
- its impossible to travel a distance where there is no Thar roads with a pillion and luggage on a R15 for a distance of 300kms. Well if taken a challange and driven i am sure he would hurt his back.
ZMR’s??
Forget them. They are all outdated engines. with 17BHP of power and a 223CC engine its a shit waste. Exaggerated styles and unwanted technologies on a scared to Tune Hero honda’s Honda engine.
I agree Ninja is an excellent bike but that cannot be compared as you get what you pay for.
And these are the sports bikes made to ride on decent roads.
Here in India we use bikes for almost anything. and Pulsar Rocks it.
I never say Yamaha’s are bad or Honda’s are bad. Pulsar’s are equally good.
From the time Pulsar was launched Bajaj has been overcoming all the problems that were faced on the Pulsars. Updating updating and updating finally the Updated and the latest Pulsar 220 is the best all in one bike available for a true Indian.
And for God sake please dont compare ZMR and Apache’s with Ninja.
This shows where you stand.
A true fact.. but this truth hurts some people!! they wont agree.. i too had a pulsar 150 UG4.. nw i sold that shit and bought HONDA DAZZLER and my bro have FZ S.. they both rocks.. pulsar family sucks.. but i like their AD.. still i hv questions.. why BAJAJ still needs to make quick money??? As a indian manufacturer they shld improve quality!! but this ill never happen..
Hi All,
Yes, we should not blame the brands for the accidents. It all depends on the rider skillset to drive the bike. and don’t use these bikes (of any brand) for racing, just enjoy the ride within limited speeds where you can control. I would say one thing – whatever the new things brought up in two wheeler industry is first by Bajaj and HH followed it later. Whatever, you see digital console, alloy wheels, led tail lamps, disc brakes, and DTS-i technology brought up by Bajaj first. HH is recently started quoting the engine technology as APDV or ADPV. HH just use the same engine platform in all 100cc bikes and sell with different models and colors. If it is of 150cc, they don’t have their own technology platform till date, everything borrowed from Honda. Now, they have started their own R&D, we need to see how they will pick up as Hero Motocorp.
Thanks,